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post #21 of 90
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Originally Posted by Gillian28 View Post
I have had the opposite experience at restaurants! I often have waiters bringing my BABY a kids menu and crayons. He's almost one now but this has been going on for months! I feel like saying "All he is going to do is eat those crayons!" And he definitely doesn't need his own meal off the kids menu! And after they take our order they then ask if they can bring anything for him (and I can remember this happening once before he had even started solids!).

None of this bothers me of course, I just think it's funny
Same here. I always get asked if my baby needs a seat (when I'm wearing them as a tiny newborn ? ) And they always give them all menus, crayons and waters no matter how old they are.

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Originally Posted by SpiderMum View Post
I waited tables for years...
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If you want an extra menu, feel free to ask.
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LOL, I think that sums up the attitude most of the moms are talking about here. A menu for a child is not an extra menu, it's just a menu for everyone at the table.
post #22 of 90
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Originally Posted by eepster View Post
I know it not a big deal, but it bugs me when waiters don't give DS a menu.
That would bother me, too. We tend to go to the same places regularly, but our daughter has always been offered a menu, and probably by the time she was 4 they'd ask if we wanted a child's menu or a regular menu. They also ask her for her order, and then do that "checking with the parents" look to make sure what she picked is fine. And starting when she was 5, the waitress at one of our regular places started offering to let our daughter handle swiping the credit card for the payment.

It's really a great way to build customer loyalty because our daughter will specifically ask to go to the place where the waitress puts a lemon in her water, or the place where the waiter put her sketch up on the bar, etc.
post #23 of 90
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Originally Posted by ecoteat View Post
I have to ask for a place setting for dd most of the time. Don't they realize she's going to need a FORK? And of course dd wants to "read" the menu--and I don't want to share mine!
We also have to ask for place settings frequently. I've gotten pretty snippy about it because it annoys me so much.
post #24 of 90
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Originally Posted by pianojazzgirl View Post
I don't really mind my kids not being brought a menu - I don't mind asking for extras if needed. The thing that bugs me is when they don't set a place for my kids (happens to us all the time), or when the server automatically brings water for everyone (usually a good thing), but doesn't bring any for my two kids. Weird.
Same here. I don't think that's happened in a while, though, now that my youngest is 4. But it drives me nuts... children do eat and drink, you know.

My 4yo reads well, and prefers "kid food" so he's happy with a kids' menu. My 7yo doesn't read very well and prefers adult food, so I just read my menu to him. He does get a little insulted by kids' menus but is happy if there are crayons to draw with.
post #25 of 90
I have had some weird experiences in this regard too. When DS was a newborn I'd wear him in the sling, and still usually get asked if we needed a high chair or a booster seat. Um, no, my baby can not sit up! lol! He's also been brought a kids menu at most places since a few months old. He is 16 months now and just starting to get the hang of coloring, though he still sometimes tries to eat the crayons.
post #26 of 90
Yeah, I've had all of the above happen at least once.

Now I tend to say something like, "Hi, 4 for lunch, including 1 high chair and 2 kids' menus" or, when getting a table when we're meeting friends for dinner, "Hi, 9 for dinner, including 1 high chair, 1 booster seat, and 5 kids' menus."

I figure if I give them all the pertinent info up front they won't have to try to determine which kids are old enough for high chairs/booster seats/chairs, and which ones wants kids' vs. regular menus.
post #27 of 90
DS is 20 months, and I ask for a menu for him. Otherwise he's so busy "reading" (looking at it studiously, then looking up to see if we're paying attention to how cute he's being) that I either don't get a look at the menu, or have to read upside-down on the menu of whoever's sitting across from me. Luckily, I'm pretty good at reading upside-down.
post #28 of 90
the place setting thing happens here and drives me nuts too. Ummm my kid would like a napkin and a fork thanks!
post #29 of 90
I have, and never will, understand how stingy some places are with their silverware. Would it *really* kill them for our family of four to have four complete place settings?


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Originally Posted by aelf View Post
That would bother me, too. We tend to go to the same places regularly, but our daughter has always been offered a menu, and probably by the time she was 4 they'd ask if we wanted a child's menu or a regular menu. They also ask her for her order, and then do that "checking with the parents" look to make sure what she picked is fine. And starting when she was 5, the waitress at one of our regular places started offering to let our daughter handle swiping the credit card for the payment.

It's really a great way to build customer loyalty because our daughter will specifically ask to go to the place where the waitress puts a lemon in her water, or the place where the waiter put her sketch up on the bar, etc.
We got to the same place every 4th of July (out of town) and the watier is SOOOOO amazing. Actually interacts with the kids in a way that is comfortable for them all and, by doing so, makes the adults have a great experience too. He definately rakes in the $ which, I am sure is common with him simply because of his attitute towards children.
post #30 of 90
I haven't experienced the menu or place setting issue. Usually my kids (5 & 3) get a menu, place setting and get asked what they'd like to drink. I'm surprised to hear that this is an issue.

But my #1 pet peeve when dining out is the servers who bring the kid's food before ours! UGH! This drives me batty. 1) we go out to dinner so we can all sit down and eat - together! 2) if the kids finish eating and we're just starting, it's going to make for a very unpleasant meal for DH & I. I know servers are trying to be helpful but I wish they'd at least ask before bringing out the the kid's meal first.
post #31 of 90
Our son likes to have water (like us) plus milk so we always have to ask for both. Also, he is a slow eater so we actually ask for his food to come out first so he can pick at it and we all are usually done at the same time. My only annoyance is when he gets a silverware bundle with a honking huge steak knife (which I quickly stash) or when the server puts a steaming hot plate right in front of him. The only thing that really offends him is when the hostess offers a booster seat. He's a BIG BOY! It's a bit funny when he responds that he's big enough, thankyouverymuch
post #32 of 90
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Originally Posted by BrandiRhoades View Post
We also have to ask for place settings frequently. I've gotten pretty snippy about it because it annoys me so much.
This is a pet peeve around here too. For awhile, every time we went out to eat we had to ask for a place setting for ds. He was 5 at the time and this wasn't the same place over and over. It got to the point where I really felt like standing up and yelling across the restaurant "THE KID IS 5. HE IS NOT AN ANIMAL AND HE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE A FORK AND NAPKIN". Of course, I never did It did get better though.

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Originally Posted by mamatoablessing View Post
But my #1 pet peeve when dining out is the servers who bring the kid's food before ours! UGH! This drives me batty.
That's funny because pretty much the only way we can go out to dinner as a family is if ds gets his food first. He just doesn't have the patience to wait as long as the restaurants usually take. So we get his first. If he finishes before we do and is getting finicky, we might get him a small bowl of ice cream as desert
post #33 of 90
I have had many jobs waiting tables. Before I got pregnant, I knew NOTHING about kids. All parents are different and the server can't be expected to know how you raise your children. Some parents feed their children off of their plate, some order from the kid's menu, some want kid's cups with water and no refills, some allow their children to have unlimited amounts of soda.

But- a server is there to SERVE the customer. They just need to be filled in on how you want things to be.
post #34 of 90
Lol. Funny you mention this because the last restaurant I was at, they offered my 13 month old a menu. He does like to flip the pages I guess... But I said no, he'll just nibble from our plates.
So maybe it's people like me that make waiters stop asking. Sorry guys!
post #35 of 90
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Originally Posted by bcblondie View Post
Lol. Funny you mention this because the last restaurant I was at, they offered my 13 month old a menu. He does like to flip the pages I guess... But I said no, he'll just nibble from our plates.
So maybe it's people like me that make waiters stop asking. Sorry guys!
Personally I find the thought of a young child playing with a menu (that who knows how many other people touched) kinda gross. But, then again, my 6 year old still chews on things (sensory issues) so he'd be just as likely as your 13 month old to nibble on that menu

To each their own!
post #36 of 90
That is true! We were at the allergist the other day and he wanted to touch all the magazines and I was like. Ew.. Especially since it's a doc's office. Sick people touched them.
post #37 of 90
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Originally Posted by Gimme Pineapple View Post
I have had many jobs waiting tables. Before I got pregnant, I knew NOTHING about kids. All parents are different and the server can't be expected to know how you raise your children. Some parents feed their children off of their plate, some order from the kid's menu, some want kid's cups with water and no refills, some allow their children to have unlimited amounts of soda.

But- a server is there to SERVE the customer. They just need to be filled in on how you want things to be.
yep. I waited tables when I was in college. I had kids in my 30s. I didn't know anything about babies/ children when I was waiting tables!

We ate out a lot when our kids were small and I never once I had problem with wait staff, but I communicated what I wanted in a nice way, assuming that they:

1) wanted to make me happy so I would tip well
2) couldn't read my mind or know what would work best for my child(ren)

sometimes after a table is full of people, menus, drinks, etc it can be difficult to tell how many forks/napkins/etc are on the table. If you are missing something, just say so.

Honestly, the staff isn't trying to annoy you and if you ask nicely, they'll get you pretty much any thing you want (that they have in the resturant).

It was my experience that families are a pain to wait for -- their total is low for how much work is involved so the % tip is low for the effort. (when your child makes such a mess that the floor needs to be cleaned before any other patrons can get near the table, tip extra ).
post #38 of 90
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Originally Posted by Gimme Pineapple View Post
I have had many jobs waiting tables. Before I got pregnant, I knew NOTHING about kids. All parents are different and the server can't be expected to know how you raise your children. Some parents feed their children off of their plate, some order from the kid's menu, some want kid's cups with water and no refills, some allow their children to have unlimited amounts of soda.

But- a server is there to SERVE the customer. They just need to be filled in on how you want things to be.
Is it really that unusual for a family to want silverware and a napkin for their child? Is it really so uncommon for a family to want their children who are well beyond the toddler stage to be given water glasses when everyone else is? Should we really have to ask for a bread plate for our son?

Why can't restaurant staff just assume that kids who are at least beyond the toddler phase are people and provide them with the basic amenities of utensils, a napkin, and a glass of water? If the parents don't want it, they can decline, but come on, we shouldn't have to ask for silverware for a six year old (and this still happens to us regularly)!
post #39 of 90
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Originally Posted by Gimme Pineapple View Post
I have had many jobs waiting tables. Before I got pregnant, I knew NOTHING about kids. All parents are different and the server can't be expected to know how you raise your children. Some parents feed their children off of their plate, some order from the kid's menu, some want kid's cups with water and no refills, some allow their children to have unlimited amounts of soda.

But- a server is there to SERVE the customer. They just need to be filled in on how you want things to be.
Yep, I was clueless about kids until I had them in my 30's. I wouldn't waste much time getting upset about the hostess not offering my child a menu, I would just ask for one. I never worked as a waitress but I bet they get some pretty crazy requests! So I'm sure someone asking for a menu for a 3 yo wouldn't be a big shock.

That's funny about kids not getting silverware. My kids have never had that happen. What usually happens is they get silverware and don't use it because we're having pizza or sandwiches.
post #40 of 90
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Originally Posted by Linda on the move View Post
sometimes after a table is full of people, menus, drinks, etc it can be difficult to tell how many forks/napkins/etc are on the table. If you are missing something, just say so.
I'm sure this is true for large parties. But I encounter it all the time when I'm out with my family, which is a huge party of three. I think that failure to give kids place settings and a glass is a sign of not really seeing the child as human.

I think it's similar to how many restaurants used to greet us by saying "Two?" despite 4-foot tall DS standing right there next to us. This has been happening less lately, but it does still happen to us.


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Originally Posted by Linda on the move View Post
It was my experience that families are a pain to wait for -- their total is low for how much work is involved so the % tip is low for the effort. (when your child makes such a mess that the floor needs to be cleaned before any other patrons can get near the table, tip extra ) .
I think that sometimes this ends up being a self-fulfilling prophecy for waitstaff. They expect a low tip, so they give mediocre service and then get the low tip they were expecting.
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