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post #1 of 13
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I would like some recommendations for spelling and grammar curricula that might work for a young, gifted kid.

DD is 5 but she processes more like an 8 year old in many ways. She is frustrated with reading because she wants to know the rules. She wants to know why words are spelled the way they are. She wants to know how words are put together into sentences. I keep thinking I should have started her reading in Spanish rather than English! So many fewer weird spelling issues at least!

Just a small example, I wrote her a note and in the middle of a sentence I wrote "2" instead of "two". She immediately noticed and asked if "is it typical to use the number instead of the word like that?" It took me a minute to even figure out what she was asking. So, I explained the traditional grammar rule of numbers less than 10 are spelled out, but that I had used shorthand for that quick note, etc. She was unbelievably pleased to learn this rule. I asked her if she would like to learn spelling and other rules like this, and she was over the moon thrilled. She's always loved rules of any sort so it makes sense that she would love these.

She's not an independent reader yet, and she is frustrated about it. I suspect that knowing some of the rules will help her perfectionist self make the jump.

I work full-time as a writer, and she knows this. So, I'm very comfortable answering her questions like this, but DH is the primary homeschooling parent and this is not his strong suit. We'd all like to find something that might work well.

I'm completely disinterested in any "teach your child to read" program, but if you happen to know of one that teaches the theory/rules behind things, then I'd be willing to look into it. The more typical rote drilling/practice won't work for any of us in this house.

But, really, we are more interested in a spelling or grammar program rather than a reading program.

Thanks!
Holli
post #2 of 13
I'm heard really good things about the Michael Thompson grammar series published by Royal Fireworks Press.

http://www.rfwp.com/mct.php
post #3 of 13
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Originally Posted by lach View Post
I'm heard really good things about the Michael Thompson grammar series published by Royal Fireworks Press.

http://www.rfwp.com/mct.php
MCT doesn't start grammar until 3rd grade- and it's meant for gifted 3rd graders according to the site.

OP- what about something like Growing with Grammar? She might also enjoy the ABCs and All Their Tricks.
For reading rules- systematic phonics would provide that, and help her make the jump to independent reading. The Ordinary Parent's Guide to Teaching Reading goes through the rule of each sound- when it says what. Might appeal to her with her wanting to know why.
post #4 of 13
We love All-About-Spelling, we started at age 4, and it's perfect for us! Uses vertical phonics and does a great job covering spelling rules I never knew existed.

http://satorismiles.com/tag/aas/
post #5 of 13
i was also going to suggest all about spelling. we don't use it, but it sounds like the exact thing you've described.
post #6 of 13
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Thanks, all! This is just what I needed. I'm going through them all trying to choose! I don't even strongly dislike the reading one, just the overly scripted feel to it but we can work around it.

DD was very excited when I told her I was getting some suggestions for us!

Holli
post #7 of 13
All about Spelling here too! We just started it. I ordered book one with my 7-year old reluctant reader because I wanted to make sure we covered the basics, we flew through everything he knew and spent some times on the rules he was just learning. We love,love,love it. It doesn't seem like he is doing endless, pointless, worksheets. He feels like he is getting something out of it and therefore doesn't resist his lessons, but once he has learned it he is done. He doesn't like continuos review. Just got book 2 in the mail last night.

Other things we have tried and not liked are Sequential Spelling, and SpellWell. He didn't mind the SpellWell but it was more like spelling practice and not learning spelling rules. Good luck!
post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by Marimami View Post
Thanks, all! This is just what I needed. I'm going through them all trying to choose! I don't even strongly dislike the reading one, just the overly scripted feel to it but we can work around it.

DD was very excited when I told her I was getting some suggestions for us!

Holli
We use a really scripted reading program- I just don't read the script. I look at what needs to be said, succinct it, and we go on.
post #9 of 13
I have a son who sounds like your daughter. I found the straightforward approach of explode the code a good fit for him. First book is very basic with letter sounds and practice letters. It moves along quickly and we did not do every page. It is a very basic book but graduates easily to more advanced rules. I don't remember where the rules start, probably 3 or 4, but each lesson has a rule listed and then a set of pages to practice the rule being taught. We are in book 5 now and his reading continues to reflect the work in those books. For grammar, we've just started with First Language Lessons. For fun and learning, Mad Libs round everything out.

I don't like the Beyond the Code books that go along with the Explode the Code. I don't think the stories are particularly well written nor interesting. He likes to read Dr. Seuss over and over instead. His comprehension and narration is wonderful - it is the actual spelling that trips him up so we stay focused on the ETC.

In our experience, it has been tricky because his reasoning and logic is so far ahead of his reading skills he gets frustrated.
post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 
I just wanted to follow up and say that your suggestions are going great!!

We're primarily using Ordinary Parents Guide and All About Spelling. I also supplement with additional material from The ABCs and All Their Tricks. (love this book!)

We have ETC workbooks but DD got bored of them very quickly. Now, we just do a couple pages to supplement whatever we're working on with the other materials. We're also using a bunch of other reading materials for supplement/practice. We play lots of language games that allow her to highlight her new skills.

So, thanks so much! You guys gave us exactly what we were looking for. DD is so happy to be learning the rules!

ETA: I meant to say that we haven't done anything formal for grammar yet but I found these awesome books by Ruth Heller called the "World of Language" series that have great wit and illustrations and actually teach loads of basic grammar rules. I just love them!

Behind the Mask: A Book about Prepositions
A Cache of Jewels and other Collective Noun
Fantastic! Wow! and Unreal!: A Book about Interjections and Conjunctions
Kites Sail High: A Book about Verbs
Many Luscious Lollipops: A Book about Adjectives
Merry-Go-Round: A Book about Nouns
Mine, All Mine: A Book about Pronouns
Up, Up and Away: A Book about Adverbs

Also, since I posted this we learned that DD needed glasses and since she got them, all this work has been so much more enjoyable for her!
Holli
post #11 of 13
Thanks for the update! We love OPG and AAS. I have the ABCs and All Their Tricks, I should take it out and look at it again sometime. We ditched ETC too.

Glad your daughter got her glasses, I had to get them at a young age too.

The Ruth Heller books sound awesome. Yet another thing to take advantage of my Amazon Prime... I just got the Schoolhouse Rock DVD and my daughter's picking up on some of these concepts. We are formally using First Language Lessons, but it goes slow and we're still just on nouns.
post #12 of 13
By far the most popular spelling curriculum in our homeschool group is "Spelling Power", in case you are still looking.
post #13 of 13
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By far the most popular spelling curriculum in our homeschool group is "Spelling Power", in case you are still looking.
Thanks, but All About Spelling is much more like I had in mind. We are happy with it!

Holli
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