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17 month old not talking much and cannot repeat sounds

post #1 of 14
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DS, Dean, has just starting using words at 17 months. Dean currently only has 4 words: water, juice, Daddy, more. He makes animal sounds when he sees dogs, cats, etc. He used to say Mama, but has stopped and seems to have replaced it with Dada. He is now signing 8 words: yes, no, dog, more, car, dance, give, choo-choo train, all of which we just taught him within 2 weeks. He pretend plays with dolls and action figures, lays them down, and will make the “shhhh” sound to let us know that they are sleeping. He also points to his diaper to let us know when he has had a bowel movement. He's a very affectionate, funny, loves-music-and-dancing-and cars, kind of boy.

He was evaluated in October and although they determined that he was slightly speech delayed, he did not qualify for early intervention services. They advised that we model speech for him and enroll him in a music class, which we did. He points at what he wants and then looks at us to make sure we understand and he also brings us to what he wants. He seems frustrated only sometimes, as for the most part, he is able to communicate his needs by pointing, gesturing, and using his limited speech. He seems to have a lot of trouble repeating both consonant and vowel sounds, such as c, oo, a, etc. He also does not know how to "blow" or purse his lips together to make the OOOOOO sound. For example, when we make the "moo" sound for a cow, he tries but it comes out as "ahhh". He "blew" his own candles out on his first birthday, but "blew" by making hissing sounds. He still blows on his soup, etc by hissing, but he thinks he's blowing.

I should also mention that he reached all the physical milestones very early. He walked at 10 months, pulled up at 5 months, etc. He's also in a bilingual household, but my husband and I speak to eachother in English. He's got a doc. app. Friday and of course, I'm bringing all of this up . . . but would like to hear any insight/experiences. TIA.
post #2 of 14
I have a 17 month old as well who is signing too. He signs more than he talks for sure. I'd say total, he says 7-10 words, and some I can't get him to repeat, they are once spoken words, so I count those .

Of everything I know of teaching sign language, there sometimes is a "delay" in speech, but then once they really pick it up, it explodes and words words words everywhere. That's what I hear. i am waiting for that.

He also does Dada, he used to do mama, but now, he calls me bub-bub. Have no idea why, but it's kinda cute.

Our ped said that we should be concerned if he wasn't "understanding" words. Like directions and tasks and such. He does that fine.

Also, since you are doing ASL, and bilingual, there may be more of a delay. I wouldn't worry.
post #3 of 14
The only really concerning thing to me, having recently read through a lot of 16-18 month old language development stuff, is that he doesn't seem to be physically capable of pursing his lips. That would be what I'd make sure the doctor knows about and checks out. Because it could be a sign that there's something going on with his mouth and that rather than speech therapy he needs occupational or physical therapy (not sure which).

As far as actual speech learning, the major red flags for intervention are no words by 18 months (used to be 2 years, kids are getting more verbal all over ) and no frustration over not being understood when they babble directly to you.

That is, he should be both able to make some words, check, and even when he's not making understandable words should be trying to use language to communicate to you.
post #4 of 14
Oh, and as far as not talking much, maybe that's just his style. Lina's 15 month old friend knows at least twice as many words and signs and talks about a fourth as much.
post #5 of 14
I have a 21 month old and he would say a few words here and there but I wouldnt call it talking or really knowing what they meant or what to associate it to at 17 months. Now he is talking up a storm! not only saying words, and repeating like a little parrot but he says little phrases now like 'I didnt know" or "hi mom". your DS sounds normal to me.
post #6 of 14
My DD2 didn't really have anything to say until she was about 19mo. Then she busted out with sentences and words like rhinoceros.

DS was way earlier. Kids are different and averages are comprised of the whole spectrum. To say that the average age to begin something is 16 mo is not to say that most begin at 16 mo.

I would give him a little space. Like they say about stuttering: it's best to simply wait, not worry.
post #7 of 14
about the lack of repeating sounds...

mine was not a late talker per se, but she never did do the repeating thing that everyone insists toddlers do. never did it. she is now 2.75 and speaking in complete sentences like "you brought the dust pan for me, mama. thank you."

and FWIW 4 words and 8 signs at 17 months sounds pretty okay to me. probably low end of average range or something. DD's ped said they should have about 50 words by age 2, and be putting 2 words together.
post #8 of 14
My ds was a late talker and had speech therapy. Your ds does not sound delayed to me, fwiw. I think the standard is 10 words by age 2, so your ds has some time. My ds had about 7-8 words around his second birthday, plus a bunch of signs. He was unable to drink from a straw. He was borderline at his early intervention evaluation, so we did speech therapy for about a year. Now his speech is totally normal (he's 4.5). I think when there's a speech issue, there's often another issue (tied into the speech issue), like gross motor delay or motor planning problems, so it's a good sign that your ds has met all other milestones. I'd wait a few more months before doing anything more. One easy exercise our speech therapist recommended was blowing cotton balls across a table by blowing through a straw. It's fun! Good luck!
post #9 of 14
Wondering what ever happened with original poster??? I am also worried about verbal motor planning for my son...
post #10 of 14
Me too. DS is 19 months and he still does a lot of grunting, gesturing and pointing. He does try to repeat simple words, like if you are pointing to a picture in a book, he'll try to say the word, but he doesn't ask for things on his own. For example, if he's hungry, he'll go to the pantry and then when you let him in, he'll point at the snack that he wants. When he does repeat a word, it's not the whole word. Ball and bath are ba, park is pa, milk is mih. He does understand when you tell him to do something. When should I start being concerned about the talking?
post #11 of 14
Skippy918, that is not motor planning, what you defined. For 19 months that is really great what you describe. Many children typically will make an approximation for a word. Ba/Ball is great, in time the whole BALL will come. Also the fact that he will sometimes imitate is perfect. No worries, sounds right on tract.
post #12 of 14
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Original Poster here:

An update on my son. He is now 20 months and I had him reevaluated by Early Intervention. He scored mostly 23-24 months on everything, even receptive speech. This was great to hear, especially because he is hearing 2 languages. He is saying (though not clearly) 15-20 words, both signing and speaking. I lied to the specialists though and told them about 10-12, because I know he struggles with some. Even so, he did not qualify for speech services but they did recommend getting a complete audiological evaluation as most of the sounds he makes are high-frequency and therefore, he may not be hearing the lower-frequency sounds correctly. Compacted ear wax may be an issue. I will update again.
post #13 of 14
pedi-Thanks for relieving my fears. I guess I worry because the other kids in his daycare and my other friends kids are all talking more than him. The little girl in his class is already saying 2 syllable words like cracker and blanket and another kid can already count from 1 to 10. So I guess when you compare, it sounds like he's behind.
post #14 of 14
I completely understand the original poster's concerns. I was very concerned about my son's speech development too. He didn't say much only a few words and some sounds. At his 2-year check up, I told his pediatrician about my concerns, but she didn't seem to be concerned about his "delay". Three months after his second birthday, he started to speak a little more. Now at two years and seven months old, he speaks in short sentences.

Like the original poster's son, my son took his first two independent steps one week before his tenth month birthday and all his physical developments were on track.

What I am trying to say is may be with a little medical intervention to help him hear low-frequency sounds, this little boy will be speaking in just a few months.

BTW, my son lives in a bilingual household too. He understands a lot of the second language, but his primary language is English.

Good luck and hope all things will go well for this little boy.
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