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Poll Results: How long did you/will you harness your child?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 14% (19)
    age 3-4
  • 45% (60)
    age 5-6
  • 17% (23)
    age 7-8
  • 4% (6)
    age 9-10
  • 18% (24)
    Other, please explain
132 Total Votes  
post #21 of 76
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Originally Posted by soxthecatrules View Post
Shoot....I'm 36 years old and not sure I meet this requirement at times.
Both of my kids so far are belly sleepers and naturally lean forward when they fall asleep, so I kept them hanressed as long as possible, then kept them in boosters as long as possible. For dd this was until she was almost 10 (booster), for dh it was until he was 8 (booster).
post #22 of 76
Ds1 was 5.5yo and 48lbs when we moved him to a booster. I can't use LATCH in my minivan past 48lbs, and I couldn't get the Radian to install with the seatbelt. I WOULD have kept him harnessed longer if I'd been able to install the Radian in the van.
Our options were either a booster or $300 for a Britax Frontier, and since we were comfortable enough with him in a booster (he sits properly, and is aware enough when he is asleep to stay in a good position), we opted for the Parkway with slideguard.
post #23 of 76
DS1 was harnessed until he was 4.5 and I realized he was 5 lbs over the harness weight of his seat. He went into a booster then because we were expectingds three and needed a small seat to fit three across the back of our station wagon. DD was under 4. Probably closer to three. I know that's awful, but she was too tall for her harnessing seat and we absoloutely could not afford one of the taller seats. There was nothing in our buget that would work for her . DS2 is still harnessed at 4 years 4 months old, and will be for the forseeable future. He still fits comfortably in his Marathon and is only 34 lbs.
post #24 of 76
Mine were in a 5pt. harness in a Britax Huskey until hit the weight limit of 80lbs, and were 7 and 10.
post #25 of 76
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Originally Posted by ann_of_loxley View Post
I can't really say an age - it has more to do with weight.
From a safety standpoint, age is far more important than weight.
post #26 of 76
DD1 is 7, still harnessed and will continue to be for several reasons. She does lack maturity to ride 100% in a booster, she rides in one with DH and in carpools, but likes to wiggle around. She is average height but very thin, weighing only 43 lbs. And the last reason is that she rides in the 3rd row, she frequently gets the seatbelt tangled in a booster, but can easily buckle herself in and out of her regent saving me the hassle of climbing back there to help her. A must when I have three children of my own and frequently haul around extras.
post #27 of 76
About 5-6 yo. because they have grown out of their RF'ing seats then.
And I will not harness a ff'ing child, so booster it is after RF'ing. But luckily we have RF'ing seats with 55 lbs. weight limit and tall shells. And they are ready to be in boosters after those.
post #28 of 76
I clicked other. For me they need to be a minimum of 4/40 and sit properly all the time. For my oldest ds who was highly motivated it was a little after 4. I don't know when my younger 2 will be mature enough.
post #29 of 76
Ds1 went into a booster when he was about 4 and 45-50lbs. Dd1 is 4-1/2 and still harnessed and probably will be for some time yet. She is only 38lbs. Even though she is in a Radian which harnesses to 65lbs I can see her reaching a point when she's older (thinking 7 maybe?) that she will be ready for a booster. 65lbs for her is a loooong way off I think . Ds2 and dd2 will follow the same trend. They are r/f in Truefit's right now and they harness ff until 65lbs so it will be whenever they are old enough and prepared to sit in a booster or they reach the limits of the seat. We bought the Truefit's so that they could be harnessed for a long time and we would not have to worry about buying more carseats until booster age.
post #30 of 76
DD was just over 5 when she reached the weight limit for the harness (18KG). It's a convertible seat so we removed the harness and she's using it as a booster. It keeps her nicely in position when she is asleep.

It was much easier to faster her in with the 5 point though, I hate having to lean over her to fasten the seatbelt and she can't reach yet.

I think DS will be younger, as he has always been bigger than DD.
post #31 of 76
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Originally Posted by pixiekisses View Post
And I will not harness a ff'ing child,
Explain please?
post #32 of 76
My brother races cars, and they have to wear 5-point harnesses for that for safety reasons. If 5-point harnesses are safer for adults, it seems like they're safer for all kids regardless of age. Still, I switch when the child can't fit in the harnessed seat anymore. I am not going to spend hundreds more dollars if the child can sit up properly in a seat and not slouch or wriggle out of the belt all the time. I think she was somewhere around late 4 to early 5 years old.
post #33 of 76
I clicked other because it has more to do with maturity than with a set age. DD moved mostly full time to a booster at about 5 1/2, she is excellent at sitting still and I have no concerns for her safety in the booster. We rarely drive further than in town. When we do go much farther than an hour (anything longer than to my mom's house) we put her Regent back in so that she can sleep, wiggle, etc, and not be fussed at for needing to hold still. My DS, I suspect will be another story. I doubt he will really be holding still well at 5, but we'll see!
post #34 of 76
The concern -- and there is one study but it is not conclusive -- about older/bigger kids in forward-facing 5-point harnesses is neck loads. The shoulders are held back by the harness and the head is not, so there is quite a bit of stress on the neck. Tethering reduces head excursion, so it is one way to reduce stress on the neck. Many racecar 5-point harnesses also have a head harness that attaches the head to the seat, thereby eliminating the concern for neck loading.
post #35 of 76
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Originally Posted by chickabiddy View Post
The concern -- and there is one study but it is not conclusive -- about older/bigger kids in forward-facing 5-point harnesses is neck loads. The shoulders are held back by the harness and the head is not, so there is quite a bit of stress on the neck. Tethering reduces head excursion, so it is one way to reduce stress on the neck. Many racecar 5-point harnesses also have a head harness that attaches the head to the seat, thereby eliminating the concern for neck loading.
I've heard this mentioned a few times, but no one has been able to provide the actual journal article or even point to where it is located. Do you have a link or reference for this? I don't feel it is prudent for *me* to base my decisions on an inconclusive article which can't seem to be produced. I would love to read it if anyone can link to or reference it.
post #36 of 76
I chose other. I don't know at what age I will allow my child to ride unharnessed. That is dependent on when he is too large/tall for a 5-point harness seat.
post #37 of 76
I don't have it in linkable form. It's a Swedish study. The NHTSA testing, which is on the NHTSA site, does show that some harnessed seats have higher head excursion than some boosters, especially for big kids.
post #38 of 76
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Originally Posted by ccohenou View Post
Explain please?
We live in Scandinavia now, and we have the Swedes knowledge, they are way ahead of any other contry in car seat safety for kiddos. We are on the same levels as they are in RF'ing kids to 4-5-6 yo. before putting them in belt-positioning boosters. And they are mature and ready for it by then.
I have many reasons, but it's all swedish research, and not something I can link, so it doesn't really matter in that way.
Head excursion is one, and another is that a larger part of the childs body is "absorbing" the forces of the crash in that a larger part of the body can move a little forward. In a tight harnessed seat, there is a lot more stress/force on the neck because only the head is thrown as violently forward, obv. not good.
post #39 of 76
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Originally Posted by mamazee View Post
My brother races cars, and they have to wear 5-point harnesses for that for safety reasons. If 5-point harnesses are safer for adults, it seems like they're safer for all kids regardless of age. Still, I switch when the child can't fit in the harnessed seat anymore. I am not going to spend hundreds more dollars if the child can sit up properly in a seat and not slouch or wriggle out of the belt all the time. I think she was somewhere around late 4 to early 5 years old.
There is a world of difference between racecar harnesses which are bolted straight to the car frame and include a head tether, and 5 point harness car seats which are attached secondarily to the car and have no tether on the head to reduce excursion. It's like comparing apples and oranges.
post #40 of 76
So I emailed my brother, and he said his race class doesn't have their heads tethered, though faster classes do have their helmets tethered to their shoulders and backs. And that the crotch strap is to keep him from sliding under the belt. It is attached to the frame, he said.
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