K2 for the Dairy Free?

[crunchy_mama]

I am having a very tough time finding K2 info and dosage amts for those not able to do butter. I am hoping to do a dairy trial w/ them sometime in the next few months, but would rather wait a bit as we are fighting colds right now. I searched the WAP site but I am not seeing dosage amts. From what I can gather I want the MK-4 version of K2 and not the MK-7 is that right? Mk-4 is like that from animal sources and the MK-7 from soy if I understand correctly.

[FairyRae]

Do you know if you can get it from ghee? (Not sure if you can do ghee...) We are dairy free except (casein/lactose free) ghee. I'd love it if ghee had the same beneficial properties as butter...

[tanyalynn]

Here's a thread in which we talked about dosage quite a bit--not definitive answers, but discussion I found helpful.

http://mothering.com/discussions/sho...ghlight=dosage

My understanding is that K2 is heat stable, so ghee is as good as the butter it came from.

MK-7 is from fermentation in general, so fermented veggies would have some, and cheese has a mix of MK-4 and MK-7.

[crunchy_mama]

thanks Tanya- I swear I searched, but I am not the best searcher. Thanks for clarifying about the MK-7.

[tanyalynn]

It was easier for me to search because I remembered a few of the words *I* used. Fewer variables. Happy reading!

[FairyRae]

Woo HOOOO--thrilled to hear the benefits are still in ghee!!!

[UrbanSimplicity]

yes - ghee is basically the same as the "butter oil" you pay pay lots of money for (with good reason!) - just not nearly as concentrated.

[Theloose]

I think bone marrow is also a good K2 source, and I'm guessing there's a seafood source as well, but I don't know what it is. Roe, maybe? There was a list I saw about a year ago that was listing the MK-4 concentration in various animal (rat?) tissues.

Sort of OT, but something I was reading recently was talking about butyrate, a short chain fatty acid found primarily in butter, as likely being a really important component of HVBO - that it would concentrate even more than the fat soluble vitamins with centrifuging. And the dairy free source of *that* would be probiotics + resistant starch (polysaccharides and soluble fiber).
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.co...roller-of.html

[crunchy_mama]

thanks for the info whoMe- I was just reading that blog yesterday and their K2 info actually. He also says that eggs have K2 in them as well- depending on diet- I am guessing those that actually are on pasture though- then they must convert the K1-K2(if I am understanding correctly). However, I am not seeing amounts anywhere. Oh, and yes you are right about the marrow- liver is a good source as well.

http://thehealthyskeptic.org/vitamin...ssing-nutrient

I don't think I have run across that blog before (but then again I forget more than I remember!)

[FairyRae]

Originally Posted by UrbanSimplicity

yes - ghee is basically the same as the "butter oil" you pay pay lots of money for (with good reason!) - just not nearly as concentrated.

SWEET!

[samihenter]

k2

i use this product
http://www.iherb.com/Life-Extension-...els/14619?at=0
it has mk4 and mk7 and vitamin k1.
my experience is that they definitely helped my teeth getting stronger.
i take it like 2-3 times a week.