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post #1 of 11
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Stbx announced to me at the end of Nov. that he couldn't stay in our marriage any longer. That he loves me and always will, but he needs "more", he's never made purely selfish decisions for himself (this, despite the fact that he's had many affairs before), that he needs to find out who he is. Classic midlife crisis stuff, except I think that he's been in midlife crisis now that I look back since puberty. He has suffered from chronic depression and anxiety for most of his life, to varying degrees, and he's never been truly content with where he is in life, despite the fact that he's been so successful in so many ways. It's fair to say he's been more unhappy than happy in his life, though constantly over the years he never, ever indicated I was part of his unhappiness, in fact he would tell me so often that I was his rock, that I was the best thing in his life, the world, etc.

He told me at the time that the "trigger" for him leaving was that a couple of months prior, in September, his ex-gf from 2 gf's before meeting me had contacted him out of the blue. She lives in another city, married with one 12 yr old son. That she sparked feelings of excitement and promise that he'd only ever had with her, that he now realized what he'd been missing. He claimed that they'd only been talking, that there was no physical affair. She was still with her husband at the time, and wasn't certain if she should leave him.

A couple of weeks later, he told her that they shouldn't contact each other if she was uncertain about leaving him. So they stayed apart, no contact, for a few weeks. Throughout this time stbx and I got along fine, in fact we were having the best communication that we'd ever had now that the cards were all on the table. We both felt hopeful and optimistic that we would do this as well as was possible. He felt more and more that as time went on, that she wouldn't leave her husband. He did admit that if she did, he would want to try a relationship with her if she wanted to as well.

One week before Christmas I found out that they'd started contact again. That she had indeed left her husband.

I was devastated. Somehow, thinking that he was leaving our marriage to be alone was a lot more palatable than him leaving me for another woman. This stings, and the sting is getting sharper. I am feeling major feelings of rejection, vulnerability, fear, you name it.

To compound things, he is still living here and the kids still don't know. We'd originally planned to tell them just after Christmas, but he couldn't get a place until Feb. 1. He got a place for Feb. 1, and then we found out that for work reasons he has to travel in Feb for 2 weeks, which means we really can't tell the kids until he is back, so telling them won't happen until late Feb. Theoretically I could have put the kibosh on that trip, but it would have been a major hassle for all of us, for a bunch of reasons. I decided to swallow him being here until he is back, even though it's getting harder and harder for me to have him around.

I am having a very hard time dealing with the fact that there is an affair. I have absolutely ZERO desire or longing to have him back- I can say with 100% certainty that if he were to come crawling back I would not even consider it at this point. Far too much has happened, and in many respects I know I will never trust him again.

The things that are killing me are that it's not "fair" that he gets to do exactly what he wants, that he will be happy (even if it's not a real happiness) while I am left struggling and coping with two devastated kids. I worry also that while right now he is saying and doing all the right things (he wants to just give me his half of the house for example), the longer his relationship with this woman goes on, the more influence she will have over him. And I am fully aware that her interests are nowhere in sync with mine. I'd say they are at complete odds with each other.

I have been a SAHM for 10 years. I feel totally vulnerable even though I am doing all the right things. I know my rights, I have an excellent lawyer and I have a plan for the short term. But at the same time I am angry with him, and I have this fear that my anger will make him angry, and that this will make him renege on all that he has promised. He knows I am scared of this and he has tried to reassure me over and over that this will not happen. But, given that this affair (and he's had others) I am having a hard time trusting anything that comes out of him.

I dunno. I just think that if we were breaking up and another woman wasn't a factor, I'd find it a lot easier to cope with.

I would love to hear if anyone else has dealt with this sort of thing. For the first time in my life I am really at a loss.

post #2 of 11


I am so sorry you are going through this and feeling vulnerable right now.

I have kinda been in a similar situation (cheated on), but it was still quite different (not married). But I was thinking, maybe if you could have a sit down with him explain your fears and get him to agree to a contract of some sort, in writing, that it might help a bit with some of your fears. It might not be something that would have a lot of weight in court, but it would be something that would show original intent. I wouldn't say that you want this because you fear the other womans influence over him. Just say that you've heard of so many divorces turning nasty that you would like a contract that you both agree upon that would help prevent any revenge type nastiness as the divorce progresses. I'm not sure if that is useful to you or not. But I couldn't read and not post.
post #3 of 11
I agree with pp - get it in writing. Get with your lawyer and have her create something like a separation contract for him to sign.

I am sorry you are going through this hurt.
post #4 of 11
I found out months into the divorce the reason ex filed was his longtime girlfriend <he only admitted it after divorce was final> And so far.. it hasnt gotten any easier. There are things you just cant control - and no matter how unfair or how much it sucks... there just isnt anything you can do. What is helping though is dealing with what I can control: I have made the rule that only my ex can come to my house for drop off and pick up and if he wants to include his gf then we will meet at mcdonalds, I only accept emails from him - because then I have time to sit and really think about how to respond and it helps me to seperate my emotions from my responses. (I'm hoping one day to be able to talk to him again since we do have two children together, but for my own sanity I will be allowing myself to ease into my new relationship with him) My children are only 4 1/2 and 1 1/2 so they have no concept of what a girlfriend is and just think everyone is friends.. so that's helpful for now.
All I can do is protect myself as much as possible - allow myself to be angry and jealous and then let it go so I can move on - find the things in my life that make me happy and keep me centered so I stay busy and forward moving when my ex is with my kids.
The best thing for me was realizing that even had I known about the affair there is probably very little I could have done - so as unfair as it THERE IS NOTHING I COULD HAVE OR CAN DO about my life - its not what I planned, but I'm alive, healthy, have two wonderful children, supportive friends and family, I'm making it financially - life is good. Plus I truly believe in Karma.. what seems happy and carefree now will not always be
Best of luck to all of us!
post #5 of 11
I am so sorry you're going through this. As the pp said I would be in touch with your lawyer tomorow and get something in writing. I would also go ahead and talk to the kids now. ids are very intuitive and I bet they are picking up on the tension and are worried. You could just explain that you are separating and that he will not be beck in the house after his business trip. You are also kinder than I would be. At the point DH was clear that he would be leaving me to pursue a relationship with another woman his housing situation would be his problem.
post #6 of 11
Thread Starter 
My lawyer and I have just started drafting the bones of a separation agreement. She agrees with me that we need to nail all his good intentions down a.s.a.p. in writing, particularly the financial issues.

I don't think (at this point at least) that we will have much, if any, disagreements about custody/access. We have already sat down and hashed out a 2 week schedule that we are both happy with.

I do know that as the financial issues are dealt with in an agreement, I will start to feel a *lot* better. Then I can actually work on dealing with the mourning of my marriage ending, and the fact that he's had an affair.

Theia- he and I have indeed talked a lot about my fears and feelings of vulnerability. He gets it. He too wants an agreement quickly, and if he follows through on what he is suggesting, I will end up far better off than what the law simply entitles me too. I don't know if this is because he's a genuinely good guy or it's his overwhelming feelings of guilt talking (my guess is a bit of both), but I need it in writing, and quickly. He is not opposing this in any way.

JunipersMom- thank you for that reminder- that there is nothing I can do. It is actually rather freeing to think of things that way, because it reminds me that so much of this is about him and his issues. I have a tendency to go back and beat myself up over decisions I made in the past- for example the first time he committed infidelity was over 10 years ago. He begged and pleaded and explained that it had nothing to do with me, it was about him, and that he loved me, wanted me, needed me, etc. I believed him. It was the carrot he dangled in front of me. And then it happened again and again, and everytime it did, I hated myself a little more, but there was always that carrot dangling, him pleading with me to stay. It's very easy for me to look back at this dynamic and call myself stupid.

pacificbliss- Believe me, I do want to tell them, because living this lie is killing me more and more as time goes on. We are getting along at home quite well, but you are right, kids are smart and intuitive, and them wondering could cause them more anxiety. I just worry that it's not a good idea to tell them and not be able to immediately launch into their new schedule, to have him be in and out of the country for the next month, that first month they know he's leaving...plus there is a selfish part of me that doesn't want to deal with the fallout alone, and I also think that the best person to reassure them about him, IS him, if you kwim.

One other thing- I am now wondering if in the agreement we are drafting up, I could put in some provisions about his new relationship. For example, I wouldn't want her anywhere near my kids for at least a year, I would not even want my kids to *know* about her for at least a year. I don't want her ever at his place while he has my kids, etc. I guess that is a question for my lawyer. I don't think stbx will have issues with this, we've already talked about it a number of times. But it would still help me feel more secure to have it signed, sealed, and delivered...
post #7 of 11
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I have been in a similar situation.

first of all....Get everything in writing. My xh was all about being the remorseful good guy. Oh I'll give you the house, take all the debt, give you $2000 a month in support. I won't take the kids from you, we will work together......LIES!!!!!LIES!!!!!!LIES!!!!!!!!Our divorce was in and out in 6 months and what little of that I got I got (and continue to get) with kicking and screaming. Of course once he was clear of me he wasted no time hooking back up with his girlfriend and she started whispering in his ear for sure. you are great, she is bad, you deserve better, your a good dad (delusional), of course every penny he slaves away to give me is money she can't spend. and their whole relationship is based on having money to burn. they don't live in the same country and yet meat in exotic locations and go to expensive concerts and stay in expensive hotels abotu every 4 weeks.

So yeah, start getting things in writing and move things through as fast as possible while he is being cooperative. Of course some things he can take you back to court for at any time but things like who takes the debt, division of marital property, alimony will be set.

and I did file the paper work and tell my children about the divorce while he was on a business trip. I was advised to be the one who told them to make sure they heard the truth from me without his shading. since he was so steeped in lies and delusions. Also he was threatening to blame everything on me. which he did do with others. He told them I was being cold, making him sleep on the couch. he was trying so hard to save our marriage. he failed to tell them about the 5+ years he had been with this other woman. (they were sleeping together for five years but I remember hearing a messege from some girl who said "I love you" a few weeks before I had my baby. likely her...or some other woman...he told me at the time it was his sister but I doubt it. it didn't sound like her and I have never heard her say that). anyway.......

just remember, you have been a good wife and a good mother. His affair has nothing to do with you. He is not doing this to get back at you or because you wer enot good enough. He did it because he is a scum bag. Because he is selfish and self focused and lacks integrity and fortitude. He is discontent (some people will never be happy with what they have. ) when I fall into the trap of thinking how much better the other woman must be than me, I remember he loved me like that once and he will get bored with her eventually too. I read some of their emails....they were exactly like the letters he sent me. as him and I were a long distance relationship too. he sent her the exact same pictures. they do the exact same things. for a minute I thought he was going to propose the exact same day in the exact same way......lame. this has nothing to do with me being bad or inadequate. it is about his flaws.
post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by ExOfficia View Post
One other thing- I am now wondering if in the agreement we are drafting up, I could put in some provisions about his new relationship. For example, I wouldn't want her anywhere near my kids for at least a year, I would not even want my kids to *know* about her for at least a year. I don't want her ever at his place while he has my kids, etc. I guess that is a question for my lawyer. I don't think stbx will have issues with this, we've already talked about it a number of times. But it would still help me feel more secure to have it signed, sealed, and delivered...
I've known of parents who have it in the decree that neither parent can have anyone of either gender that is not a blood relative sleeping over during their nights with DC. It's perfectly reasonable imo. The only way to get around it with a SO is to remarry.
post #9 of 11
Yes. That is almost exactly my story. (In my case, it was someone he met recently vs. someone from the past, but that's incidental.) And yes, it is so different being left because he 'wants out' or whatever and being left because 'he'd rather be with someone else.' Which I put in ''s because it's not at all that or nearly that simple, but it feels that way. It's the worst pain I've ever been in.

You can be rational and remember the reality: it's a fantasy he's running toward not something real. That's important. The life crisis is this 'seeking something' and thinking that he found it in a fantasy that may but more than likely will not come true.

There is no way to convince him, obviously, nor did you say that you wanted to. But the closest to sanity that I've managed to keep is just to keep an eye on what's real.

I'm truly sorry for your pain. It does get better, and it does take time. In the end, I focus on myself and remind myself that the only one for whom I can make choices is me. He has done what he has done, my only job and my only choice is to accept it as a turn my life took and go from there. Please take care.
post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by Theia View Post
I've known of parents who have it in the decree that neither parent can have anyone of either gender that is not a blood relative sleeping over during their nights with DC. It's perfectly reasonable imo. The only way to get around it with a SO is to remarry.
Me too, this is called a morality clause. They aren't terribly enforceable and how enforceable they are may depend on where you live. But wording like that is something you could try.

I've had the same conversation with my H.
post #11 of 11
I wouldn't worry about having to be nice to get your fair share, he obviously is selfish and eventually his true colors will show, especiallly when it comes time to hand over money. I would ask for lots of maintenence/alimony and take it as his portion of the home if you can afford payments or try to get cash up front etc.... I can tell you my ex will not hand me money, but I have the gov withdraw his childsupport from his paycheck so he has no choice in the matter. I am still waiting for him to pay me my judgements for attorney fees.

I think you can start the filing for divorce and mutual financial restraining orders etc before you tell the children if you are both in agreement and if I were you I'd get the financial restraining orders in effect ASAP.

ask for a little more than you think you need, it will give you room to negociate and look nice
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