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post #1 of 16
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My husband and I are considering adopting a boy from the foster care system in our state (MI). How long does a homestudy take approx? Is there a cost?

This boy is 6 yo. We have two bio children, a 12 yo dd and an 8 yo ds. I always wanted three children and miscarried a pg'cy six years ago and it's uncanny how much this boy looks like my husband as a child. I have this feeling in my heart this boy is meant to be in our family. I even had a dream about him the other night and I just can't stop thinking about it. My husband gave me the go ahead for getting things started! I would love to have another bio child, but our ds has **severe allergies**, it really makes me hestitant to have another bio child.

Also, both my dh and I have two first cousins who were adopted and I've always felt like I would adopt.
post #2 of 16
Hi. I'm in MI.

Is this boy on the photolisting? I'm familiar with pretty much every kid on there since i have looked at it obsessively for years, so i may be able to give you some insight on any "red flags" (reading between the lines) i see in the profile.

How long the homestudy takes depends on your agency. With my first agency, once i got the paperwork in, the actual study (coming out to my house, worker writing it all up) took like two or three weeks (then i waited more than a year for a match before switching to a better agency.) With my current agency,they hung on to finishing my study until it was actually time to adopt my foster son, which was irritating (so that took nearly a year!)

If you want to adopt a specific child, you can just go with the agency that has the child, as they may be more motivated to speed things up and they may "hold" the child while you are going through the process (or they may not..depending on how many people have inquired or are being considered)...younger children tend to be placed very quickly and some older kids have been on that list for years. Sometimes a kid is matched, then showed back up on the list a month or a year later. Sometimes that means the placement disrupted, or there could be other reasons (matched with a relative who then decided not to adopt after all, for example.)

If you are in Wayne County i can recommend my agency, though i have mixed feelings. I have found most people around here have mixed feelings about their agency though. I can tell you what agency to avoid though, as i had a horrible experience with them and another FM told me she heard awful things about them too.

If you need more specific questions about the MI process i can try to answer them...i began the process here in 2006, finally got a foster license since i wasnt being matched, almost immediately got a 3 wk old infant that i adopted several months later. I may be able to adopt my current FS who is nearly two yrs old. If he goes home, i will probably try to straight adopt again. They have recently changed the process in MI so that there is more of a dual homestudy and just need an addendum to your foster license/homestudy in order to adopt, whereas before the foster and adoptive processes were completely seperate. They have also recently required that all relative caregivers become licensed foster parents, so that created a backlog in Lansing to get people licensed (for foster care)...that has supposedly eased up though.

Let me know if i can help in any way.
post #3 of 16
Forgot to add, that there is minimal cost to adopt a child from foster care in MI. You do not pay for the homestudy. You may have costs incurred from getting physical exams at your doctor for you and your family, getting your pets updated with shots (i just did rabies for my indoor cats who are otherwise unvaxed), making any necessary changes to your home (repairs for example) needed to pass the home inspection, etc. Many of these expenses can be reimbursed through "nonrecurring adoption expenses" (i think its up to 1500 or maybe 2K) if your child qualifies as a special needs child (mine did not but most kids over three will)...you will also get a monthly adoption subsidy usually equal to whatever the child's foster care stipend was (basic amount is around 400/mo, a child with higher needs may be more), and a medicaid card, until the child turns 18. You will also likely qualify for the adoption tax credit, in which you can have a certain amount of your tax liability "forgiven"/returned, i think its something like 12K over five years (you can look up the specific details). You cant get back more than the taxes you paid in, which wouldnt have worked for me anyway since i have a lower income but can be great for people with a middle income. Kids who get a subsidy will qualify for the entire amount (given the other conditions are met) whereas other types of adoptions you can only get what your actual expenses were.

The only other expenses would be related to the fee to finalize, which is less than 200 dollars and the cost for the new birth cert. both of which are reimbursable as i've outlined above.

I did want to mention this, though when you are early in the process its soooo hard to not fall into this trap.

Please dont fall in love with this little boy. You likely will not be able to adopt him. Its hard! I know! i remember soooo many little faces i've inquired on over the years, even international kids i had no chance to adopt. I remember their names, their stories, their pics. Some i really thought i had a chance to adopt. I had my fantasies about them joining our family. I would even try out how their first name fit with our last name, or look at clothes in that probably size at the store. But those are just fantasies and the reality of THIS child is different, and the reality of older child adoption is different. I've told this story before, but i inquired on a cute little boy who liked trucks and videogames (or whatever) but when i got his expanded child profile, i learned he had mild MR, possible autism, psych hospital stays, sexual acting out, disrupted adoptions, etc.

There is often MUCH more that you will not see from a brief photolisting blurb.

Im not saying dont inquire, i think you definitely SHOULD. Get more info. But i just went and looked on the photolisting and if he is listed....well there are three six yr old boys listed, one has severe autism and the other two have severe behavior issues which likely require an experienced family or one willing to do TONS of research. Neither of those boys should probably share a room with another child, i'm guessing. Both probably have psychiatric diagnoses and likely have regular therapy and medication therapy as well. They may exhibit aggressive behaviors. One should not live with children or pets, the other should be the youngest (and when they say that, they dont mean just by a couple of years, they mean it may work out for him to live with teens or other nonvulnerable children)...i was really naive and hopeful when i began the process and i've become a bit more jaded.

Keep in mind, too, that in MI something like 90 percent of kids who are adopted are adopted by foster parents or relatives. The kids listed on MARE are *generally* the kids that are hardest to place, so if a six yr old child is listed (esp if that child is caucasian) there is likely significant issues present.

Not trying to scare ya! and you may know all this already....i just know how devastating it feels to think "i love this kid! i want this kid!" and then you get the profile and realize there is simply no way to parent this child and keep your other kids safe. (I was matched with a boy who had perped on his younger sibs, and i had a young toddler at home....what were they thinking?! it killed me to pass on him but i had no real choice.)

Also, if you really want to adopt, and not just adopt *this boy*...it is a good idea to find an agency, go through the process, and be matched with a child that way, than a child photolisted. Like i said, absolutely inquire on him, just dont be too crushed if he isnt "the one".

I fee like im being a downer so i'll stop now. Sorry.
post #4 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thanks Katherine!

Thanks for the info! I'm in Oakland county. Don't worry about the reality info, that is what I wanted and needed to hear. The boy is on the MARE site (Raven) and also on adoptuskids, which is where I started browsing about two years ago. I totally get how you would get hooked on one kid. Like I wrote, this boy looks SO much like my husband as a child! So, yea, I did the whole first name to our last name thing already

however, I do realize the kids on the MARE rescource are hard to place.

My bio 8 yo ds is special needs too (mild autism, adhd) and has exhibited severe tantrums over the years and a host of other issues.

So I need to go through an agency not the county?

Do you know where this boy is by chance? I did inquire thru MARE but it said only those with their homestudy will be considered (of course) but I'd like to TALK with someone about this boy at least, like you said and go from there. I'd like to get the study done, if he doesn't work out, at least we're in the system to be available for other children.

I DO appreciate your honesty and it's always good to see others here from my own state! I do understand that such a child like Raven must have something big time going on to be on photolisting and not be adopted yet. He's been on there since September, it did make me go Hmmmmm.

Also, can you strait adopt across state lines once you are all set with the homestudy and paperwork? Can you send me some links??

THANKS again!! Hugs to you and good luck on your own journey!

Kelli
post #5 of 16
Hey Kelli! My family is planning to adopt from the foster care system here in SC.

I don't usually even look at photolistings since they just make me sad - we are planning to adopt a 6 y.o. boy as well, and we have two younger kids who would basically not be safe with ANY of the boys I've seen on photolistings except the physically disabled ones. But I read Raven's profile, and based on your family makeup and what you have experience with, I think it is 100% reasonable to think that your family may be a good match. Please let us know what the response is to your inquiry!

post #6 of 16
I think since your son is so close in age (even if he's older) with special needs, I would tread carefully. Wouldn't hurt to inquire, though.
post #7 of 16
That description is screaming severe needs. Possibly reactive attachment disorder (RAD) or something else that's quite serious. My gut says RAD.
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by Smithie View Post
But I read Raven's profile, and based on your family makeup and what you have experience with, I think it is 100% reasonable to think that your family may be a good match. Please let us know what the response is to your inquiry!

This child is listed as having "severe" needs (they dont put that there lightly) and they really would prefer him to be an only child, either with a couple or a single dad. There is alot here that screams attachment issues or other severe issues to me. I would tread very carefully and do tons of research and really think about the impact a child with high needs such as this would have on the other children in the family.
post #9 of 16
I really don't want to be a downer here, but my child has mild to moderate attachment problems and post traumatic stress disorder. She would be better off as an only child. When we adopted her, her disabilities listed were only medical, nothing else was disclosed. She was young, so maybe her problems were not manifest yet. My point is that her problems are mild, and she can aggressive to other children and malicious. If a child is listed as having severe emotional problems and you adopt them, you must accept that your primary job will be to protect your children from one another. That is emotionally very hard.

I guess for a child like Raven, it is a toss up between having a a not perfect family for him or no family at all. Hearing situations like this are so hard for me, because I want children to find homes, but adoptive parents so often go into adoption with rosed colored glasses. I did, even though I knew better.

Also, you mentioned several factors that show you already have some emotional expectations. That is also something to be very weary about.
post #10 of 16
Thread Starter 
Sometimes I think I should have never been looking at those photo listings

I didn't see where it said he needed to be an only child though, just the youngest.

I called an agency today for paperwork to be mailed to us. The classes start soon, but the only catch is they are on Mondays (and Wed.) but my husband works until 9pm on Mondays and he absolutely cannot get off early, ever. I don't know how we'll get the classes done unless they are on Saturdays
post #11 of 16
You might inquire to see if they have a video course available for your husband. We had that as an option here and our previous state. We were able to take Saturday classes as we had many options for dates in our previous state. This state the trainer is having scheduling issues due to a family matter and if they can't do the classes we can watch the videos. We'll still probably attend a couple of the sessions to get to know people but it's nice to have the option.
Photolistings are hard. I can't tell you how many kids I've been interested in over the years have now aged out. Dh was adopted in his very late teens so there is some hope. We'll adopted older teens when we are a bit older. Dh falls hard for the kids he sees & I've banned him from looking. I know it's because he was in foster care for many years and that he was seperated from his siblings. But it's really hard not to fall for the kids hook, line & sinker.
Ack! I rambled big time. Oops!
Hope the videos may be an option for you!
post #12 of 16
Photolistings are a double edge sword. They do help kids get adopted who might not, but kids are generally not photolisted unless there is no other option. And they have to be careful about what they write about a child, for many reasons. People who've been around the photolistings for a while can pick up on the underlying concerns.

For example, one of the websites said, "Due to the high level of attention and supervision required, it would be best if Raven were the youngest or only child in the family." That's a definite red flag. The child could very well need CONSTANT one-on-on supervision. The child may very well be in a therapeutic foster home (especially since they mention maintaining quite a bit.) This part could go either way, "an outgoing and active child who can be very charming around others and who thrives on positive attention." The child could just be very friendly or could have major attachment issues.
post #13 of 16
Video classes, huh? I don't think I like the sound of that. I think you really need to be in class to ask questions, process information with others, etc. I don't think you could really get the same experience from a video. Foster care and foster adoption is a tough journey. Even at it's best.

OP, can your DH take classes in a different county or from a private agency?
post #14 of 16
Thread Starter 
Polly, I will look into a private agency as well now. Maybe the requirements are more flexible? So, one can still adopt from the state through a private agency and it's still low cost? Sorry if that sounds like a newbie question! I am one though!

Yea, I've often thought about the wording they use on those listings. My son is cute and charming too and can also be a real handful, so I definitely take it with a grain of salt.

Tell me though, can attachment issues be healed to a good degree? Honestly?
post #15 of 16
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Originally Posted by Sneezykids View Post
Polly, I will look into a private agency as well now. Maybe the requirements are more flexible? So, one can still adopt from the state through a private agency and it's still low cost?
Where i live most people go through private agencies (bethany, lutheran, catholic social services, as well as non faith based ones)...DHS wouldnt even deal with me, they told me to look on MARE, and pick an agency. They primarily (in my county at least) homestudy relatives.

The process and fees are the same regardless. All you will pay for is whatever is required to get homestudied (medical exams etc), which is likely minimal to nothing...and then the court filing fee/new birth cert fee. which is around 200 dollars total. And is reimbursable if you adopt a child who qualifies for subsidy.
post #16 of 16
Whether a child can be healed from attachment issues depends on how severe the attachment problems are. A lot of attachment problems are actual irreversible brain damage. The child's brain had to adapt in order for the child to survive. Some things can be helped, other things can't. For a child with RAD, the child could very well be cute and charming to outsiders (even teachers) and be extremely challenging (and dangerous) to those in a parental/sibling role. I've read story after story from foster and adoptive parents. The spectrum of attachment-related problems, from mild to the extreme end (like reactive attachment disorder), is different than the attachment that is talked about on MDC.
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