Dr. pulled my infants skin down & he's NOT circumcised.

[ErikaM27]

Yesterday I took my kids to the dr for a check up for my boys 9 months and 4yrs old. The dr my kids normally see wasn't there. So this woman does their check up my son (4 yr old) has only seen twice lays him down on the bed and sees his penis and tells me oh no we have a problem see mom it's too tight it should retract I said ok it says everywhere not to retract. She says let me see the baby so I put him on the bed/table again since she had already done a check up on him and I'm not thinking anything of it she's pulls back the skin on my 9 month old to the point that I saw the head of the penis. She said see it doesn't hurt him! See! I got the baby closed his diaper and put him in his car seat. I told her the other dr that works here told me NOT to pull the skin back it will retract on it's own.

She had seen my son (4 yr old) months ago going on a year and saw his penis and did this too tried to pull it down and he had tears and she tells me today he (4 yr old) needs to see a urologist she said I'm going to refer you , she looks at his file and said I had already referred you before and you didn't go? I said no because the other dr said there wasn't an issue! She said well your son's penis doesn't retract so you have to see a specialist.

She said you're supposed to pull the skin back since they're babies so that it can be cleaned. I said you tried last time and you tore the skin and he couldn't pee! I have 2 boys she said and since they were babies I did this. Or you're going to have problems. I said OK I am confused here everyone tells me not to pull it back!

I said it's not that I'm not wanting the best for my kids and I want them taken care of but when you have different people telling you things I doubt what you say too so you have to get where I'm coming from. Well she said you know what I'll give you some time to search online for information. I said I have and they all say not to pull the skin down so who's wrong here? And I want to know why the other Dr in this office told me NOT to pull the skin back and now you're telling me this? She said I dont know I dont know why he would say that. I'm so upset ladies am I over reacting. I'm so upset I cried. I'm confused too.

I called the office yesterday again so I could report her, I ask for the dr's correct name spelling since it's not the dr my kids see on a regular basis and they were acting sneaky asked to put me on hold. I still got the right spelling but i hung up because i want nothing to do with the woman I didnt want to talk tp her.

I hope she's thinking about what she did when we were leaving the office after what she did hope she went home and did her own research on the internet. Now my concern is does my 4 yr old have to see a Urologist? He has no infections,discharge,pain, his hole is fine he can pee fine no issues. Also should my 9 month old see a doctor because of what she did or just leave it alone?

[BlessedMommy2006]

That doctor is WRONG. Not being retractile at 4 years old is NOT an indication for circumcision. Your son is fine, no need to see an urologist.

The doctor really needs a reprimand though for her behavior. She is going to be endangering other intact boys and someone needs to stop her. She is going against the clear guidelines of the AAP and is spreading false, outdated information.

Please take a moment to write a complaint to the doctor's office. You may help save other little boys from dangerous and inappropriate medical advice.

And you have every right to feel upset. What happened was not acceptable. Please tell them so.

[ErikaM27]

Originally Posted by BlessedMommy2006

That doctor is WRONG. Not being retractile at 4 years old is NOT an indication for circumcision. Your son is fine, no need to see an urologist.

The doctor really needs a reprimand though for her behavior. She is going to be endangering other intact boys and someone needs to stop her. She is going against the clear guidelines of the AAP and is spreading false, outdated information.

Please take a moment to write a complaint to the doctor's office. You may help save other little boys from dangerous and inappropriate medical advice.

And you have every right to feel upset. What happened was not acceptable. Please tell them so.

I already reported her yesterday to the medical board BUT i dont know what they will really do probably nothing.

[Night_Nurse]

Your 4 yr old doesn't need to see a urologist anymore than a 4 year old girl would need to see a gynecologist because her hymen was still intact! Plenty of boys aren't retractable until they are much older, sometimes teens even. Give it time, no need to worry. You might want to find some links from AAP or Doctors Opposing Circ. and print out some info on retraction and intact care and mail them to that doctor. I understand you don't want to go back (I wouldn't either) but maybe is she has the info she won't harm other boys. I'm happy she left her own boys intact but I'm surprised she retracted them all the time. She really should know better!
Your baby should be okay. Just leave him alone and let his body heal itself. Just watch for any signs/symptoms of infection but as long as he can urinate and isn't retracted anymore, he really should be okay.

I'm sorry you had this problem. Doctors should know better. I always feel strange advising this, but you might want to see about finding a male pediatrician with a foreign sounding last name (because he most likely will have a foreskin and know normal care). My kids pedi is from India where they don't normally circ. He never advised improper care and never tried to retract. Other people had similar experiences, as opposed to American born doctors who aren't well-schooled in foreskins or their care.

Good luck!

[tutucrazy]

(at the doctor)

This should help you:
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...osis+diagnosis

[guerrabug45]

thanks for posting

Thank you for posting your story. I took my intact son for his 6 year old check up last week. We saw a new dr to the practice and she pulled his foreskin down and told me that it should be fully retracted by age 3 and that I need to take him to the urologist. Partly because I am 15 weeks pregnant I left the office in tears...at home I did the research and found how very WRONG she was. The article I read from doctors opposing circumsion stated that the mean age for full retraction is 10.4! It even stated that you may report your dr to the state medical board for trying to retract an intact infant!
They will even help you...

http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcisi...etraction.html

I am still trying to deal with the pain she may have caused my son and your post helped me feel less isolated!

[BlessedMommy2006]

Originally Posted by guerrabug45

Thank you for posting your story. I took my intact son for his 6 year old check up last week. We saw a new dr to the practice and she pulled his foreskin down and told me that it should be fully retracted by age 3 and that I need to take him to the urologist. Partly because I am 15 weeks pregnant I left the office in tears...at home I did the research and found how very WRONG she was. The article I read from doctors opposing circumsion stated that the mean age for full retraction is 10.4! It even stated that you may report your dr to the state medical board for trying to retract an intact infant!
They will even help you...

http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcisi...etraction.html

I am still trying to deal with the pain she may have caused my son and your post helped me feel less isolated!

Wow, that seems so wrong for a doctor to be even touching a 6 year old's privates unless you brought them in for some kind of problem!

[Cetan Luta]

Originally Posted by BlessedMommy2006

Wow, that seems so wrong for a doctor to be even touching a 6 year old's privates unless you brought them in for some kind of problem!

Exactly this!

[glongley]

Useful links about the development of the intact penis, and about forcible foreskin retraction:

http://www.cirp.org/library/normal/

http://www.doctorsopposingcircumcisi...kinleaflet.pdf

http://www.nocirc.org/publish/6pam.pdf

http://www.kindredmedia.com.au/libra...ractions/401/1

http://www.healthychildren.org/Engli...sed-Penis.aspx [This is the new AAP parent info handout on care of the intact penis which states: “Most boys will be able to retract their foreskins by the time they are 5 years old, yet others will not be able to until the teen years. As a boy becomes more aware of his body, he will most likely discover how to retract his own foreskin. But foreskin retraction should never be forced. Until the foreskin fully separates, do not try to pull it back. Forcing the foreskin to retract before it is ready can cause severe pain, bleeding, and tears in the skin.”

[homebirthing]

It gives me the eebiejeebies to think of anyone other then my son pulling on his foreskin. I know that there is someone (a lawyer or a doctor?)that people refer all of the time, that can send her information and clinic information. Anyone got that link?

[Ann-Marita]

If doctors did something like this to girls, that would be sexual abuse! I don't understand why boys are treated this way.

[glongley]

Originally Posted by homebirthing

It gives me the eebiejeebies to think of anyone other then my son pulling on his foreskin. I know that there is someone (a lawyer or a doctor?)that people refer all of the time, that can send her information and clinic information. Anyone got that link?

The attorney for Doctors Opposing Circumcision, John Geisheker, will send a letter to the doctor/nurse/hospital pro bono (free) on your behalf telling them what they did was wrong and the possible legal consequences. It isn't a letter stating you'll sue but it probably won't earn you any friends there, so be prepared to find another physician. It is fully referenced and ought to get their attention. while at the same time educating them about some pretty important stuff.

Email John at [e-mail]

Before you contact John, you will need the following information:

The name of the doctor or nurse who did this, the name of his/her practice and their (snail) mailing address.

The name of the hospital where the doctor has privileges, (the hospital where they practice) and the mailing address. (even if it didn’t happen at the hospital)

The name of the CEO or Administrator of the hospital. (even if it didn't happen in the hospital, find out where the offending doctor has privileges and send it to those hospitals)

The name of the hospital's risk manager.

The name of the head of the department (OB, peds, emergency, etc.)

Information on the baby: name, birthday, age.

A full description of what happened, what you were told, the aftereffects, etc.


Letters will also be sent to:

The state medical board in your state.

The Joint Commission on Accreditation of Healthcare Organizations (hospitals fear them like a boogeyman)

[Mrsboyko]

Originally Posted by glongley

The Joint Commission on Accreditation of Healthcare Organizations (hospitals fear them like a boogeyman)

Haha, so funny you say that. I work in a hospital and you should SEE how people run around when JCAHO comes to visit. Like a military school at inspection time

Back on topic, I am so sorry your doc did that. I am constantly hovering around my docs arm if she goes anywhere near my sons penis. I have removed her hand from him before and sent her articles (via inter-hospital e-mail no less!) about intact care. It can be exhausting to watch them so closely all the time.