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HELP! Longtime nursers please help! 3 year old causing discomfort

post #1 of 5
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DD 15 mo, DS 3y old. I tandem nurse. I am upset, disappointed and SAD. When I nurse my son I feel discomfort from his teeth and sucking. I have been dealing with this issue for a year. I am so disappointed because I never thought I would be the one who would have issues like this. I LOVE nursing my children and was ready to let them wean themselves. When I read other stories similar to what I am describing, I use to judge and say they didn't really want to nurse. I want to nurse my son, my son wants to nurse but the physical issues are so great that I have cut back on the amount and duration of his nursings. I need help, I need my prayers answered. I am sooooo sad, I am crying right now. I feel his teeth 99% of the time, his tongue causes a tickle sensation that is uncomfortable. I have tried everything I could think of, I reattach sometimes several times a session, I put my nipple deep, shallow, cup it, flatten it, etc., I have tried different positions. I have talked to him about being gentle, slowing down, opening his mouth. When my daughter (and use to be my son) nurses I don't feel any discomfort and love it. I can only nurse him on my right breast because it is much larger and fattier (word?) so it seems I don't feel his teeth as much. My left breast feelings like a deflated balloon in his mouth. The left breast is my DD's. The only time I feel some relief is in the early morning when we first wake up (family bedders) and my breast is the fullest and his suck is lighter and more relaxed. Every once in a while I will fall back asleep nursing him which is heaven to me.
What has gotten me through the discomfort is my mind and heart. I will imagine he is my daughter and try to feel nothing, I positive think through every session, I pray through every session. I imagine that the body is nothing and a creation of the mind so I can create anything. So I have made it through a year of this. I can say I am better. When this first started I was so angry that my son was picking up on my anger and thank god I have adjusted my attitude. I was so taken back that I would feel anger of all things, it was such a shock considering that breastfeeding is my lifestyle along with everything that comes with. I go to monthly LLL, talk with my leader, try to talk with family who don't understand considering "I made this choice so I need to live with it". If there are no golden solutions I am okay with that, although I still have hope. Maybe all I need is to hear how others have dealt with similar situations without forcing their child to wean. That is not an option for me or my son who still would double up on his nursings if I let him.
Shannon
post #2 of 5
I have no answers, just a lot of sympathy since I've had the kind of painful nursing you describe all along with now 2 yo son.

Good luck, and

...bump
post #3 of 5
I don't know if this will help at all, but I have always found that nursing is more uncomfortable for me when I'm not well-hydrated. The older the nursling(s) gets, the easier it is to get dehydrated and then your supply decreases and the child is "nursing dry" which is very uncomfortable. This could also explain why you find it less of a problem in the mornings when you are the most "full." With my DD who is almost 4, I can always tell from the sensations when I have or haven't drunk enough that day.

I haven't tandemed but I would imagine it's even harder to stay hydrated than when nursing one! Can you try dedicating some time to really focusing on better hydration? Set a timer and drink a glass of water every 15 minutes, or whatever other tricks work for you. Really work at it for a few days and see if it helps.

At your DS's age you should also be able to use words and talk to him about the situation. I would stay away from vague things like "be gentle" which are not words that a 3yo can really act on. I would try to say more concretely, "please don't use your teeth on mama's breast" (or whatever word you use) and say "that hurts mama, no teeth please." If there is a time when you don't feel his teeth, be sure to praise him and say "good job, thank you for not using your teeth, that feels nice to mama." And so forth. My philosophy is that when you are nursing a child who's old enough to understand language and communicate, the nursing process is a partnership and both partners can work together to make it go smoothly.

good luck!
post #4 of 5
feeling for you too
my tandem nursers are now 21 and 18!!

It was hard to go through it -we tandemed for 1 year -older child weaned himself .
What helped me was lots of nursing moms teas -camomile to calm me at times .LLL meetings and friends .
The older childs mouth is just bigger and feels so different than the younger nurslings .

My present 3 year old is causing me discomfort at times of low supply and ovulation /period times .So it is not just tandeming!
Off to drink my tea!
post #5 of 5
i remember struggling with this also, the guilt and the feelings of being a terrible mother that it brought

it sounds like you've done everything you can though, so be easy on yourself.


if only a nursing relationship was all roses like some books make it sound out to be
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