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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
It's not official, but I'm feeling that CDS's feelings and my feelings are leaning toward an integrated classroom for DS once he turns 3 in May. He has a major speech/communication delay but is ok in most of the other areas. Today I was told that he probably "has some autism" but there is no official diagnosis.

Where do the normally-developing peer models come from? What do their parents think about the integrated classroom? I see how it would be beneficial for my DS, but I'm wondering about the other half, how or why these children are selected, if these children know it's an integrated class, if the process is effective, etc. Is there any friction between the halves? Is it kumbaya? Do the normal developing children learn patience and kindness and other qualities? I'm very excited about the class (though, I'm only interested in 2 mornings a week to start) but just have some questions.
post #2 of 10
Hi!

I'm a preschool special educator, working in an inclusive program, so I can give you some ideas about how things have worked in the programs I've been in. There are lots of different models of "integrated" preschool classes. From your discussion of halves and other things, I'm guessing that you mean a model where a school district either has or contracts for classrooms that serve approximately 50% children with special needs and 50% typically developing children, and that don't typically provide services to all typically developing children that age. I live in a district with pretty close to universal 3 and 4 year old programs, so the answers for me would be different.

As far as where do the normally-developing peer models come from. I think they can come from many places. In some places the other half of integrated classrooms are chosen because they are considered to be "at risk", they're children who have low income, or who speak a different language at home. Other places the integrated classrooms are open to all members of the community, either for free or for a fee. There's often a lottery. Some reasons why families might choose an integrated program for their children include: they teach at the school and want their children close, their older children attend the school and they want their children to be in the same location, their have other children who have attended or are attending the integrated program as students with disabilities and have fallen in love with the program, they feel strongly that inclusion benefits everyone, they know that integrated programs frequently have more educated teachers, they suspect their own child might need extra support but he/she isn't diagnosed yet or simply because the program is cost effective or happens at the right time and they want their kids there.

Do the parents know? If it's a situation where all the classes are integrated, especially at the 50% level, then it's almost always highlighted in parent tours or handbooks, and parents know that about the school before they make a decision. I know in the inclusive settings I've worked in (I'm using inclusive to mean schools where the majority of children are typical, and children with special needs are welcome as full members of the class and provided services within the classroom), we are very up front about our inclusiveness in those circumstances because we want parents who wouldn't be welcoming or comfortable to self-select another school. On the other hand, if it's a situation where the school has a number of non-integrated classes and one or two integrated classes, parents may not know until they are assigned, but the school usually communicates in some ways the situation.

Is there any friction between the two halves? I don't think that the children think of themselves as two halves. They are certainly aware that Johnny communicates with signs or that Mary uses a wheelchair or that if you want to ask Eve to play you need to say her name clearly and get her to look at you first before you invite her, but they don't attach any more meaning to that than they do to the fact that Suzie teeters around on the high heels from the dress up corner every day, or Joshua is an amazing tree climber. If they classify themselves into groups it's much more likely to be around preferences (e.g. we're the kids who like to play with the trikes and scooters) or gender or physical attributes including dress (e.g. Scott and I are alike because we both like to wear princess dresses all day at school, or we both have velcro shoes). Is there friction between parents -- generally not unless resources are scarce. Sometimes you'll run into a situation where there are integrated classrooms that aren't any better staffed than the classrooms of all typically developing kids. In those cases everyone is going to lose out because the fact is that special needs kids have more needs, and that usually results in too many needs for anyone to get all of them met, and you might find a situation where parents blame the children they perceive of as neediest. It's not fair but it does happen. So you want to hear that the school has an extra teacher, or a smaller number of children in their integrated classrooms relative to what they have in their mainstream classrooms. In those situations where everyone is getting their needs met there may be moments when there are misunderstandings that need to be cleared up, but I wouldn't say friction, just opportunities for increased communication.

Are there benefits to typically developing kids to being in integrated or inclusive classrooms? Yes, huge benefits. Children in integrated classrooms definitely learn more about acceptance, about social problem solving, and about not assuming that everyone is the same. In addition, teachers in integrated classrooms generally get more professional development. In my setting I frequently go into the classroom and tell the teachers -- here's something I'd do to benefit Johnny's fine motor delays, or to increase Josue's vocabulary, or to make it easier for Meredith to sit through circle, and when I come back they've applied that same technique to half or all of the class. Children with special needs also serve as a great weather vane. For example, if you're asking your kids to sit at circle too long, you'll lose a lot of them and learning will stop. Many times, however, the typically developing children will start daydreaming, or otherwise disengage in a manner that's not so obvious, and the teacher will continue instruction not knowing she's lost them. On the other hand, if there's a child with regulatory challenges in the group that child will make the fact that he's done with instruction known loud and clear. That's a strong incentive for the teacher to do things differently next time, which benefits every child.

Good luck! I hope you find the perfect class for your child!
post #3 of 10
I can't answer specifically about preschool b/c my son's ECSE was only for develolpmentally delayed kids. However, he is in his second year of integrated kindergarten.

The first year was a special kindergarten class for "at risk" kids. "At risk" could mean many different things and I think more than half the kids were low income or ESL kids - no developmental problems necessarily. There were some kids in there who had been in preschool with my son so some were definitely special ed. My son was definitely among the "lower functioning" kids in the class. It wasn't public knowledge why a particular kid was in the class but it was often pretty obvious. Everyone was very accepting.

This year my son is in a "regular" kindergarten. He and 2 or 3 other kids are special ed and they have a special ed teacher in the room. One of the kids has a one-on-one aide. This arrangement is pretty accepted at our school. In each grade,there is generally one class that has the inclusion kids (as they are called in our district) and that classroom has an extra (special ed) teacher and sometimes aides depending on if a child needs one. Sometimes the inclusion kids go to resource for extra help in certain subjects.

Let me put it this way...my NT 4th grader is in the inclusion class this year and he is pretty unaware of the whole thing. I mean, he knows it is the inclusion class but it is not a big deal. He doesn't think about it much. My 6th grade son (also basically NT but with mild ADHD) also had the inclusion class a few years and I actually really liked it b/c the special ed teacher is allowed to help ANY student who needs it and it helped him to have an extra teacher in the class who would tap him on the shoulder when he was "drifting", even though the teacher wasn't really there for "him". Many parents at our school like the inclusion class because of the extra teacher and often the class size is smaller.

Your pre-K class may be a bit of a different situation but really I don't think people are going to think of it as "us" and "them". I think it sounds like a great opportunity for your son. ECSE helped my son tremendously.
post #4 of 10
Since the public school in our district don't consider "sensory problems" to be enough to be in a smaller classroom, a lot of parents put them in the integrated classrooms *since they don't qualify to be in it.. according to rules* but they still need in it the parents opinion
post #5 of 10
Integrated classrooms can vary from one area to another. My son attended the integrated preschool in our district for 3 years and we loved it. DS has ASD, with hyperlexia and dyspraxia.

In our area, the typical kids just come fom the community. Registration is first come, first served. Parents of typically developing kids choose the integrated classroom for many reasons. For one thing, it's cheaper than the other preschools in the area (since the preschool is in the elementary school building, there is low overhead). Some parents have older kids who attended as a special needs student and liked the program so mush they want their younger typical child to attend. Some of the children have older siblings in the elementary school and the parents find it convenient to have the little ones in preschool at the same building.

From our experience, I wouldn't say that the kids really understand that it's an "integrated class". They do understand that everybody has things they are good at and things they need to work one. Child A might need help learning letters, Child B might need help painting a picture, Child C might need help learning to talk. But everyone is there to learn togehter. At that age, children can be very accepting of these differences when they are presented , in a simple, matter-of-fact way. Also the various therapists (sppech, OT, PT) always did activities with the whole class before setting down to work individualy with the special needs kids. Since the therapists often have the best toys (especially the OT), some of the typical kids thought that the special needs kids were "lucky" to need the extra playtime.

I hope you and your child love yout integrated preschool class as much as we loved ours!
post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thank you, very informative, answers my questions, I really appreciate it!
post #7 of 10
I have kids in an intergrated classroom from both sides.

My DS2 who as languages issues has been in an intergrated preschool class for over 2 years now. It has been great for him. The kids do not realize who is who from my experience. Even the parents do not always realize that my son was "special needs" until it came up in discussion that he was going 5 days which is only available to those kids. My DS tended to be really good friends with my many of the NT kids. Yes, the "special needs" boys in his class were very close at the start of the year but that was only because they all had been together for 1.5 years including summers and knew each other while most of the NT were new to the school. Quickly all the boys were all one big group. Everyone was well aware it was an intergrated class.

My DS1 (NT) and DD were in an intergrated classroom for kindergarten and I actually requested they be placed there due to my DD hearing issues (she did not have an IEP coming into kindergarten but did at the end of the year). The main reason I asked for the placement was to have teachers who would have knowledge about my DD hearing issues as well as the fact that they were young and I liked that the class had two teachers and was small. It was an awesome experience for both. None of the kids realized who was NT and who was not. Actually all the girls in the class got VERY close and are still in touch with each other even after going to neighborhood schools. Two of the girls (one my DD) recieved services while the other 4 did not. The 4 who did not go to speech were very jealous of the other two who got to go play My Little Ponies every week!! The parents told at the beginning of the year it was a intergrated classroom. I think the NT kids in the class were handpicked as kids who were younger (late spring or summer birthdays) and were compasate with other kids.

I have my DS3 signed up for the intergrated pre-school for next fall. Reasons, 1. to have him and DS2 in the same school, 2. I LOVE the program and how structured it is 3. I know the teachers, they are not going anywhere and I really, really like both the teachers for the three year old program. 4. The teachers know my DS3 and like him! (I think there was a special request put in behind the scenes for my DS3 to be put in the room he was put in). The integrated program here is so popular (and it is NOT cheaper actually than the other pre-schools in town) that they had to have a lottery to determine who gets in and it is VERY hard to get a spot in the lottery!!
post #8 of 10
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Hi!

I'm a preschool special educator, working in an inclusive program, so I can give you some ideas about how things have worked in the programs I've been in. There are lots of different models of "integrated" preschool classes. From your discussion of halves and other things, I'm guessing that you mean a model where a school district either has or contracts for classrooms that serve approximately 50% children with special needs and 50% typically developing children, and that don't typically provide services to all typically developing children that age. I live in a district with pretty close to universal 3 and 4 year old programs, so the answers for me would be different.

As far as where do the normally-developing peer models come from. I think they can come from many places. In some places the other half of integrated classrooms are chosen because they are considered to be "at risk", they're children who have low income, or who speak a different language at home. Other places the integrated classrooms are open to all members of the community, either for free or for a fee. There's often a lottery. Some reasons why families might choose an integrated program for their children include: they teach at the school and want their children close, their older children attend the school and they want their children to be in the same location, their have other children who have attended or are attending the integrated program as students with disabilities and have fallen in love with the program, they feel strongly that inclusion benefits everyone, they know that integrated programs frequently have more educated teachers, they suspect their own child might need extra support but he/she isn't diagnosed yet or simply because the program is cost effective or happens at the right time and they want their kids there.

Do the parents know? If it's a situation where all the classes are integrated, especially at the 50% level, then it's almost always highlighted in parent tours or handbooks, and parents know that about the school before they make a decision. I know in the inclusive settings I've worked in (I'm using inclusive to mean schools where the majority of children are typical, and children with special needs are welcome as full members of the class and provided services within the classroom), we are very up front about our inclusiveness in those circumstances because we want parents who wouldn't be welcoming or comfortable to self-select another school. On the other hand, if it's a situation where the school has a number of non-integrated classes and one or two integrated classes, parents may not know until they are assigned, but the school usually communicates in some ways the situation.

Is there any friction between the two halves? I don't think that the children think of themselves as two halves. They are certainly aware that Johnny communicates with signs or that Mary uses a wheelchair or that if you want to ask Eve to play you need to say her name clearly and get her to look at you first before you invite her, but they don't attach any more meaning to that than they do to the fact that Suzie teeters around on the high heels from the dress up corner every day, or Joshua is an amazing tree climber. If they classify themselves into groups it's much more likely to be around preferences (e.g. we're the kids who like to play with the trikes and scooters) or gender or physical attributes including dress (e.g. Scott and I are alike because we both like to wear princess dresses all day at school, or we both have velcro shoes). Is there friction between parents -- generally not unless resources are scarce. Sometimes you'll run into a situation where there are integrated classrooms that aren't any better staffed than the classrooms of all typically developing kids. In those cases everyone is going to lose out because the fact is that special needs kids have more needs, and that usually results in too many needs for anyone to get all of them met, and you might find a situation where parents blame the children they perceive of as neediest. It's not fair but it does happen. So you want to hear that the school has an extra teacher, or a smaller number of children in their integrated classrooms relative to what they have in their mainstream classrooms. In those situations where everyone is getting their needs met there may be moments when there are misunderstandings that need to be cleared up, but I wouldn't say friction, just opportunities for increased communication.

Are there benefits to typically developing kids to being in integrated or inclusive classrooms? Yes, huge benefits. Children in integrated classrooms definitely learn more about acceptance, about social problem solving, and about not assuming that everyone is the same. In addition, teachers in integrated classrooms generally get more professional development. In my setting I frequently go into the classroom and tell the teachers -- here's something I'd do to benefit Johnny's fine motor delays, or to increase Josue's vocabulary, or to make it easier for Meredith to sit through circle, and when I come back they've applied that same technique to half or all of the class. Children with special needs also serve as a great weather vane. For example, if you're asking your kids to sit at circle too long, you'll lose a lot of them and learning will stop. Many times, however, the typically developing children will start daydreaming, or otherwise disengage in a manner that's not so obvious, and the teacher will continue instruction not knowing she's lost them. On the other hand, if there's a child with regulatory challenges in the group that child will make the fact that he's done with instruction known loud and clear. That's a strong incentive for the teacher to do things differently next time, which benefits every child.

Good luck! I hope you find the perfect class for your child!
That's been my experience, as well. I've been a teacher in an inclusive preschool program and my son was in an inclusive preschool, as well (as a child without identified special needs.) I've had wonderful experiences. It "makes" teachers look at children as individuals and recognize that development is on a continuum. And the kids are just kids. They see each other's strengths and weaknesses but in the end they are just friends.

My son is now in kindergarten and having a tough time. I wish his class was inclusive. He could really use the support.
post #9 of 10
When my kid was in an "integrated classroom" for preK it was 7 kids with IEPs and the other 8 kids were Head Start. So this was a public school disrict preschool room but the only kids in town who qualify for public pre-K are special ed kids or low-income at-risk kids, who are either free or very low cost. those spaces are limited though, so it's a matter of meeting the low income requirements and then the waitlist.
post #10 of 10
My ds is in an integrated 1st grade classroom. In his school, integrated classrooms have waiting lists, but not of SN kids - they automatically get in. Parents of NT kids are anxious to get them in for one simple reason - it's taught by 2 teachers, and that means every student gets individualized attention.

There is also a charter school in my district where every classroom is integrated that also has long waiting lists. Again, these waiting lists are for NT kids, not SN kids. Parents want to place their kids in a school that sees kids as unique and individual. This school has high performance records.

Another aspect to the integrated classroom is that the NT kids model and teach the other kids. Teaching is the best way to learn. These kids feel more confident and valued.
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