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GI issues w. 9yo

post #1 of 4
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I could really use some advice.

My 9yo daughter, otherwise healthy, has been having toileting problems for over a year. They get better for a while, then worse, and I've thought several times that we're out of the woods, but then it recurs.

Her basic situation is that she has BM in her underwear, and then either changes in her bedroom and leaves the BM in her room, or changes in the bathroom and leaves soiled towels. Sometimes she does not flush, and occasionally I realize that she hasn't washed her hands. The bedding is often soiled.

This doesn't seem to happen at school or outside the house; at home sometimes I'll see her with her hands in her pants and have to remind her to use the toilet.

The pediatrician and child psychologist both diagnosed constipation. We've used Miralax as prescribed with no noticeable change in her symptoms. I don't think her problem is constipation (I didn't visit the psychologist because I was at work during the appointment; dh went, or I would have made this point to her). I occasionally use the restroom with her (in a restaurant or at church, for example, never at home) and I've never, ever seen or heard anything from her that seems like constipation. She just has regular bowel movements.

I tend to think her problem is behavioral - it has some clear behavioral components, IMO. ie, leaving toilets unflushed, leaving soiled towels in the bathroom, leaving BM in her room.

I've tried rewards for using the toilet, at the psychologist's suggestion; no changes. I've tried setting clear goals for her (no soiled towels in the bathroom and all soiled garments in the hamper, for instance) with moderate success. We've had a really, really stressful year and IMO that's part of her problem. I've tried just talking with her gently, but nothing I say seems to help. She won't talk about it at all.

I'm so sad and frustrated that I can't help her. She's a great kid. She's bright and funny and does well socially, she loves school, she's basically happy and well-adjusted. But I am out of ideas.

Any suggestions, wise mamas? I could really use some help.
post #2 of 4
It could just be that it is something that is easy for her to control...

Or she might actually not get a stong urge feeling until it is too late. I might take her back to the dr and talk about that since the meds aren't doing anything...

post #3 of 4
Since you said it waxed and waned in severity, can you tell what was going on during the peaks and lows to see what made it better/worse?
post #4 of 4
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Thanks for the suggestions. I can keep a bit of a journal, for sure, and that might help us keep track of other stressors, etc.

I don't think I can afford to go back to the psychologist. It was out of plan, so crazy expensive, and our health insurance has changed such that we'd have to pay the whole cost upfront (until our 6K deductible is reached. ) Our other medical expenses are more pressing, unfortunately.

It might be a control issue. I should think on that. We're not especially strict or controlling - I think she has a good amount of decision-making power in her life - but perhaps she needs more control over her space or her time. I wonder if I could incorporate her more as a decision-maker in the family. She does choose her clothes and frequently contributes menu ideas, and we don't have a rule about eating things you don't like... she chooses her hairstyle... so some obvious things seem to be in her court already.

It did start, to the best of my recollection, after we moved to a new city. So it might have begun out of frustration or anxiety and become a habit.

It's a puzzle.
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