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post #21 of 39
I'm so very sorry--it's tough....no, beyond tough....to be the only one who "get's it" and is really trying while everyone around you has their head up their rear (I'd prefer other words...but trying to be non-offensive).

You sound like you are doing a fabulous, fantastic, wonderful job w/your children. You are in a position where everything you do as a parent is under a microscope right now, and only parents who have been in your position are going to really understand.

Huge hugs!!!!!! (Uh, and I'd move, too, although I'd be tempted right now to build a nice pretty fence in the meantime).

mrsfru
post #22 of 39
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Thanks so much mamas for the hugs, understanding, and validation. It is really helping to hear the perspective of others. I am still in shock but I am slowly finding my feet today. I think I am grieving for relationship I thought I had with my sisters, or used to have long ago when life was a little simpler. I agree that my what they did was abusive. We have abuse in our family history, and my sisters have never dealt with it or worked through it the way I have. They are clearly still stuck in a very dysfunctional way of dealing with conflict. I was thinking that anyone looking at this situation from the outside would probably expect my sisters to eventually apologize to me, but I honestly don't think they ever will, because from their perspective I was in the wrong and hurt them. I think that the weirdest part for me was how strange their perspective of me was from who *I* think I am, and who deep in my heart I know I am - a loving kind mom and sister who is under tremendous strain and just reaching my hand for someone to accompany me on this journey now and again...and coming up empty handed every time. I really appreciate the posters who validated that surreal feeling, because it helped me make sense of what was one of the most troubling parts of the experience for me.

To the poster who asked, yes, I am currently in counseling (thank goodness!) and have been for about 5 months to help me deal with the stresses of caring for DS and dealing with my very difficult XH. We recently have started working on my sadness about a lack of reciprocity from my family. I just had no idea to the extent it actually went! Previously, I was just feeling alone and frustrated from the lack of interest my sister seemed to have in what was going on with the kids, and a few rude comments. I asked her a few weeks ago if she wanted to start swapping babysitting once a month so we could each get some time away from the kids and go out with our DH's to which she said, "Well its probably because I work full-time, but I don't really need to 'get away' from my DS. I enjoy being home with him during the evening, but I can understand how you would feel that way." I felt it was kind of a dig, but I just let it slide (DOORMAT ALERT) and said, "Yeah, I am pretty burned out, so even if you don't want to go out, do you think you might be ok with that once a month so me and DH can get a little break?" She said she'd talk to BIL about it and get back to me but never did. I ask DH later, "Do you think that was a dig?" and he said, "Yeah, that was a dig."

Speaking of my DH - he is wonderfully supportive, wonderful overall. As DS1 likes to joke, he's "Mary Poppins in Man-Form - Practically Perfect in Every Way". We are superbly blessed and lucky that he came into our lives and that he loves me and the boys absolutely with all his heart. Unfortunately I don't have many other IRL supports, we've been here less than two years and with the kids needs, having a baby last year, etc, its hard to socialize. I met some nice people through a fiber arts craft group (including some MDC mamas!), but I haven't gone since DS1 went to treatment 2 months ago. I need to make time to go back. It was very therapeutic! But I do have MDC too, and I appreciate so much having mamas who can share advice and hugs, even if I can't see your faces.
post #23 of 39
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Which brings me to the point of your sister's son - it's definitely possible she is scared sh**less that he son is on the spectrum as well so if she can blame your son's problems on YOU, then her son is "safe".
Very possible. Makes a lot of sense! I don't see how I can do anything about it though, she'd never admit that was it and would be furious with me for suggesting it. But at least it helps me understand her a little better and realize this whole attitude she has is more about her than me.

At this point, I am not going to try to patch things up. I don't really see how I can. And I don't have the time or energy for it, and I am not going to leave myself open for more abuse. So yep, a big fence sounds nice. And thanks for the good vibes everyone on the house sale. We are already making plans!
post #24 of 39
Oh my! I had tears in my eyes just reading what they did to you! That's awful. I know that when I'm trying to ds1 under control in one of his rages, that it is the absolute worse time for someone who thinks "they know better" to step in. It just muddies the water and makes the situation significantly worse. I've had to explain this a time or two to family members as well. It is sickening to have to deal with the stress of one, but to add the stress of dealing with a family that has no clue just Grrrrrr!! I'm so sorry you had to put up with that.
post #25 of 39
From what you have posted I think your family is toxic. Move on.
post #26 of 39
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Originally Posted by earthmama4 View Post
Thanks so much mamas for the hugs, understanding, and validation. It is really helping to hear the perspective of others. I am still in shock but I am slowly finding my feet today. I think I am grieving for relationship I thought I had with my sisters, or used to have long ago when life was a little simpler. I agree that my what they did was abusive. We have abuse in our family history, and my sisters have never dealt with it or worked through it the way I have. They are clearly still stuck in a very dysfunctional way of dealing with conflict. I was thinking that anyone looking at this situation from the outside would probably expect my sisters to eventually apologize to me, but I honestly don't think they ever will, because from their perspective I was in the wrong and hurt them. I think that the weirdest part for me was how strange their perspective of me was from who *I* think I am, and who deep in my heart I know I am - a loving kind mom and sister who is under tremendous strain and just reaching my hand for someone to accompany me on this journey now and again...and coming up empty handed every time. I really appreciate the posters who validated that surreal feeling, because it helped me make sense of what was one of the most troubling parts of the experience for me.

To the poster who asked, yes, I am currently in counseling (thank goodness!) and have been for about 5 months to help me deal with the stresses of caring for DS and dealing with my very difficult XH. We recently have started working on my sadness about a lack of reciprocity from my family. I just had no idea to the extent it actually went! Previously, I was just feeling alone and frustrated from the lack of interest my sister seemed to have in what was going on with the kids, and a few rude comments. I asked her a few weeks ago if she wanted to start swapping babysitting once a month so we could each get some time away from the kids and go out with our DH's to which she said, "Well its probably because I work full-time, but I don't really need to 'get away' from my DS. I enjoy being home with him during the evening, but I can understand how you would feel that way." I felt it was kind of a dig, but I just let it slide (DOORMAT ALERT) and said, "Yeah, I am pretty burned out, so even if you don't want to go out, do you think you might be ok with that once a month so me and DH can get a little break?" She said she'd talk to BIL about it and get back to me but never did. I ask DH later, "Do you think that was a dig?" and he said, "Yeah, that was a dig."

Speaking of my DH - he is wonderfully supportive, wonderful overall. As DS1 likes to joke, he's "Mary Poppins in Man-Form - Practically Perfect in Every Way". We are superbly blessed and lucky that he came into our lives and that he loves me and the boys absolutely with all his heart. Unfortunately I don't have many other IRL supports, we've been here less than two years and with the kids needs, having a baby last year, etc, its hard to socialize. I met some nice people through a fiber arts craft group (including some MDC mamas!), but I haven't gone since DS1 went to treatment 2 months ago. I need to make time to go back. It was very therapeutic! But I do have MDC too, and I appreciate so much having mamas who can share advice and hugs, even if I can't see your faces.
oh hun.... seriously... I get you. I understand everything. I mean EVERYTHING your family is putting you through. Like I said in my pp it sound E.X.A.C.T.L.Y. like my family. Im so sorry you have to go through this, no one should. I can relate to all the bolded above. My grieving and realization that I dont have what I once used to with my family. I just got past the shock some time last week. My family would never apologize for anything either. My mom even hit my car while trying to park, by accident of course, while I was standing out side and she refused to apologize and started going off on me that me bringing it to her attention was somehow an attack on her. I too feel soooo misunderstood or misread. They dont see what the motive is behind our actions. Instead my family (mostly my mother) sees anything I do as a personal attack on her. At first I thought maybe she was threatened by my parenting skills that somehow maybe she felt that she didnt do as good a job with me as i do with my son... I personally dont feel that way, but she has severe emotional problems like depression so all you have to do is breathe the same air as her for her to start something... but then I quickly learned that its all personal... its me. Over the last few years I have become the black sheep of the family and I have no idea why. I dont have any irl supporters... Im a single mama by choice this time around and dont have anyone on my side... at least you have an awesome DH to support you. Please dont hesitate to PM me... I just feel for you in your situation because I myself am going through it as well. Last week was the turning point for me when my own mother spit in my face and started pushing my trying to knock me down.... AND IM 6 MONTHS PREGNANT! And she had the nerve to call the cops on ME!!!
post #27 of 39
I don't have any advice. I just want to offer you a :
post #28 of 39


Just wanted to lend even more hugs. While my situation with my family is quite different, I completely understand the emotions after being blindsided with criticism you didn't see coming and can't understand, and the saddness of the loss of the relationship you thought you had or used to have.

I'm always one to never say never. My wish for you is that sometime down the road relationships will be healed. But it sounds to me like you have more important things on your plate right now and your sisters are not at the point where anything good will come of trying to work on things. I don't blame you for wanting to move. I think I probably would put the sign up today if it were me.

Stay strong, Mama. You're doing a great job.
post #29 of 39
I'm sorry mama. I've been in a similar position over the holidays a year ago. My family thinks all my kids really need is a good "whoopin" and have asked more than once for me to give them custody of DS 1 ( yeah, my mom has terminal emphasema and my dad has alzheimers and is recovering from a subderal hematoma,but supposedly they can take care of a ASD 16 year old ) Anyway, I just wanted to let you know I feel your pain. I would not attempt any reunification right now. Not until they understand what they did and start treating you with some respect. Do you receive respite hours for your son? That might be one way you and DH can have a date night.
post #30 of 39
I am sorry too. You know I am always talking about the latest treatments, research, findings, etc. about autism to my family and they are glad to learn about it! For us ASD moms it is our life and we work HARD! How dare they not show interest in your life, in your parenting, ugh, makes me so mad for you!! It's obvious they don't support you in other ways, the least they could do is LISTEN for goodness sakes. I don't know but that one detail really fires me up. I'm sorry about everything else too. Grrrrr.
post #31 of 39
Oregon welcomes you with open arms! Especially Portland!

Try not to hold it against them. Just get the heck out and let them look back on their behavior in another several years and get sick to their stomachs.
post #32 of 39
I am so sorry. It was totally inappropriate for your sisters and BIL to do this, let alone in front of your kids!

I did not read all the previous posts, but I do agree with the few I did read - it's often very difficult to talk about a special needs child with family (and also friends). I really only feel like I can talk to my mom about it. She was a speech therapist and is far more understanding and can evaluated what I am telling her from a professional sort of perspective. I get the impression from DH's family that they just think we are overreacting and that there is nothing actually wrong with DS . Most of my friends are generally supportive, but I also get the impression that they don't want to be bothered with understanding the implications and they don't always want to accommodate DS's needs.

I hope that you can get the support you need from your DH and/or friends to heal from this event.
post #33 of 39
Wow! That is awful. I'm sorry you had to put up with that and from people who should be supportive of all your efforts.

I hope your move to Oregon goes smoothly.

Parenting a SN child is a whole different ball game. Before I had a child I had no idea what it was to parent. You don't realize the 24/7 aspect of parenting until you are a parent yourself. And until you are the parent of a child with special needs, you don't realize how different that is from parenting a typical child. You really have to live it to know what it's like. But that shouldn't prevent people from being kind and supportive to those of us who have SN kiddoes.

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Originally Posted by earthmama4 View Post

To the poster who asked, yes, I am currently in counseling (thank goodness!) and have been for about 5 months to help me deal with the stresses of caring for DS and dealing with my very difficult XH. We recently have started working on my sadness about a lack of reciprocity from my family. I just had no idea to the extent it actually went! Previously, I was just feeling alone and frustrated from the lack of interest my sister seemed to have in what was going on with the kids, and a few rude comments. I asked her a few weeks ago if she wanted to start swapping babysitting once a month so we could each get some time away from the kids and go out with our DH's to which she said, "Well its probably because I work full-time, but I don't really need to 'get away' from my DS. I enjoy being home with him during the evening, but I can understand how you would feel that way." I felt it was kind of a dig, but I just let it slide (DOORMAT ALERT) and said, "Yeah, I am pretty burned out, so even if you don't want to go out, do you think you might be ok with that once a month so me and DH can get a little break?" She said she'd talk to BIL about it and get back to me but never did. I ask DH later, "Do you think that was a dig?" and he said, "Yeah, that was a dig."
Words fail me. That is a dig.
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Originally Posted by earthmama4 View Post
Speaking of my DH - he is wonderfully supportive, wonderful overall. As DS1 likes to joke, he's "Mary Poppins in Man-Form - Practically Perfect in Every Way". We are superbly blessed and lucky that he came into our lives and that he loves me and the boys absolutely with all his heart.
Your DH is awesome. He's a keeper.
post #34 of 39
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone again. This thread has been so healing for me. The outpouring of support is wonderful. It is sad to see though, that I am not alone in this experience. I wish healing and peace and support on all us SN mamas!

I am seeing my counselor tomorrow which will be helpful to process things and get some ideas on how to cope while we prepare for our move. I am doing pretty well, just really hating living next door. This situation is 1000 times worse because of that. I don't think I mentioned that the 19 yr old sister nannies for the other sister (the one who owns the house) so one of them is always there. Ugh. I can't come or go from the house w/o seeing one or both of my sisters' cars there, or BIL's truck. And somehow, the fact that they are right there, and they know how bad they hurt me, and I have not seen head nor tail of them, its kind of like salt in the wound every time I drive by. Its just bad energy I want far away from, like, yesterday! But we're stuck for now. But as I said, making plans - and that helps!

We talked with the boys last night about what has happened and why it was not ok. The boys seemed to really get it and understand why we won't be around them anymore. I didn't previously know, but they aren't happy living here either. In fact, all of the boys suggested moving to Oregon! Its funny because DH and I made a decision to not tell the boys for now, just because we didn't want them stressing about it. But I know they fell in love with it as much as we did. Even before all this, they have mentioned moving there, and DS3 uses his memories of the beach as his happy place when he's feeling anxious. It's still really scary to consider what moving with three older ASD kids who don't do great with change will mean, but I am trying to think positive! I made a long-distance move once before as a single mom of three (to be closer to home and family "support" ) so I've BTDT and I have a wonderful DH as a partner this time around.
post #35 of 39
post #36 of 39
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Even before all this, they have mentioned moving there, and DS3 uses his memories of the beach as his happy place when he's feeling anxious. It's still really scary to consider what moving with three older ASD kids who don't do great with change will mean, but I am trying to think positive!
You may be surprised at how well they do with a big move like that, especially if they are in on the planning process. We moved to a different county for better autism-related services, and our son actually enjoyed the move.

You are definitely not alone in your family issues. My sisters live in different states, thank goodness. You deserve new sisters!
post #37 of 39
If you must wait to move to Oregon, could you rent a house on the far side of town, and rent yours out? Maybe until the economy improves? No way should you or your family be in that toxic, high-stress environment. Do whatever you can to put some distance between you.

To repeat the PPs messages above, Oregon, especially Portland, is wonderful in 1,000 ways. Welcome, in advance!
post #38 of 39
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I don't think I mentioned that the 19 yr old sister nannies for the other sister (the one who owns the house) so one of them is always there. Ugh. I can't come or go from the house w/o seeing one or both of my sisters' cars there, or BIL's truck. And somehow, the fact that they are right there, and they know how bad they hurt me, and I have not seen head nor tail of them, its kind of like salt in the wound every time I drive by. Its just bad energy I want far away from, like, yesterday! But we're stuck for now. But as I said, making plans - and that helps!
I know the feeling hun... I think I may have forgot to mention my entire family lives right next door as well.... I dread running into someone face to face.... but I too am making plans.... Good luck with the move. I hope it brings you healing vibes!!
post #39 of 39
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Originally Posted by mamarhu View Post
If you must wait to move to Oregon, could you rent a house on the far side of town, and rent yours out? Maybe until the economy improves? No way should you or your family be in that toxic, high-stress environment. Do whatever you can to put some distance between you.

To repeat the PPs messages above, Oregon, especially Portland, is wonderful in 1,000 ways. Welcome, in advance!
I wish we could, its really tempting! In fact, if my kids weren't school age, I am sure we would. But we don't want to make them have to change schools now, and then again when we get to Oregon. I think that might bring more stress than it would relieve.

Portland sounds wonderful and would be a great fit for the family if we were headed for a city, but the sea beckons me. We spend a week on the coast last summer and it absolutely stole my heart. I told DH it was my true home and that we had to move there someday! So I think we're headed to Newport! But we will for sure be taking some weekend trips to Portland now and again for the zoo, the museum, and shopping fun! Its only an hour away from Grandma and Grandpa's house!

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I know the feeling hun... I think I may have forgot to mention my entire family lives right next door as well.... I dread running into someone face to face.... but I too am making plans.... Good luck with the move. I hope it brings you healing vibes!!
You too! I can't imagine going through that single and pregnant. It's soooo important to grow babies in peace, don't let anyone take that away from you! My most anxious/fearful boy was the one I was pg with when the abuse by my ex was the worst. I didn't know it at the time, but there is research that stress chemicals can wire a developing brain for a stress reaction (fight or flight). I was a Parents As Teachers educator for three years and the program really emphasizes a low-stress pregnancy for our prenatal clients based on this brain research. So there you go, you have scientifically-backed reasons for avoiding contact with stressful, toxic people and doing whatever you need to do to lower your stress level for your baby!
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