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post #1041 of 1199
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Panserbjorne: Thank you! Where can I get these, and what is a good brand? Also, how much should I start out giving my dd?



1800homeopathy.com is a good source.  how much you give depends on the case.  how old the child, the intensity of the symptoms etc.

post #1042 of 1199
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we're going technicolor.

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...  if you don't believe the constitutional can change then there's no real need for layers.  If you don't believe that but feel that the constitutional can't be "seen" until you remove presenting pieces then you're looking for layers. 

 

.... SO for what you're asking, a blockage is an obstacle to cure or a maintaining cause.  A layer is a picture that's presenting that has been acquired-

 

THAT makes so much sense. thank you.

 

 

it's possible and believed by most to be true that it will present in the picture of the remedy.  ...

HOWEVER from a medical perspective there can be damage to an individual that has very little to do with the constitution. 

...  If someone has chronic issues with their kidneys and no instigating factors in their history then it's more likely part of their constitution.

yes. that helps a ton. thank you! 

 

yes, and you can have cancer but not be in the cancer miasm.  Or have tuberculosis but not be tubercular.  

right, of course. 

so the illness can't be classified to the miasm even if it seems to fit.  

ok, so that makes *some* sense, lol... "cancer" the illness isnt a "brown" illness. thank goodness for those color-based terms.... ;-)

it may well express differently based on the dominant miasm.

this is fascinating to me, but again makes me feel that knowing the miasm would be so helpful in treating someone, especially with a serious issue...... of course, that would only work if one believed in them...... ;-) 

 

no confusion...I just always want to make sure I'm not coming across as having rigid rules, because I don't.  I never think there's ONE answer to any problem and I get really irritated when different modalities claim that they can heal things in a vacuum.

fair enough. i never thought that. and i should be more careful in my word choice. if i'd said "constitutional" it would have been better. 

i have to lol at healing things in vacuums. love it. 

 


 

post #1043 of 1199

oh my god, you so remind me of my brother.  what a trip!

 

yes, and you can have cancer but not be in the cancer miasm.  Or have tuberculosis but not be tubercular.  

right, of course. 

so the illness can't be classified to the miasm even if it seems to fit.  

ok, so that makes *some* sense, lol... "cancer" the illness isnt a "brown" illness. thank goodness for those color-based terms.... ;-)

****yes, that's a big reason for them!  But it goes beyond that, of course.  plenty of people would say, oh skin cancer or eczema is a psoric issue....but that's not technically true.  while the action of psora is to throw things out and any skin affliction is classically associated with psora, that outward direction is present in 4 color groups.  So clearly while it's a manifestation of outward energy, it does not mean that you're yellow. so if you have eczema and you're yellow, it may be a sulphur or graphites eczema.  If you're green (yellow and blue) then it might be a phosphorous or hepar sulph eczema.  If orange, (yellow and red) then perhaps it's a nux eczema.  or if you're brown it might be an arsenicum or arg nit eczema....they will all have differences.  They may come up in the top 10 if you repertorize it but if you know the person is orange, then you're not going to give them sulphur to deal with the picture.  It may help, but it's not likely to be what fixes everything.  the remedy will have to match the energy to have the deepest impact.

 

it may well express differently based on the dominant miasm.

this is fascinating to me, but again makes me feel that knowing the miasm would be so helpful in treating someone, especially with a serious issue...... of course, that would only work if one believed in them...... ;-) 

*****it's quite helpful.  once you see their patterns the remedy pool narrows considerably.  using cancer because it's so universal, you can have cancer and be any one of the color groups.  each color group may have different symptoms for the same type of cancer though.  Or asthma, or bowel issues etc.

 

no confusion...I just always want to make sure I'm not coming across as having rigid rules, because I don't.  I never think there's ONE answer to any problem and I get really irritated when different modalities claim that they can heal things in a vacuum.

fair enough. i never thought that. and i should be more careful in my word choice. if i'd said "constitutional" it would have been better. 

i have to lol at healing things in vacuums. love it.

*****I know you didn't, I just didn't want to go down that road.  I hear it all the time and I don't like it.  that's my mini rant for the day.

post #1044 of 1199

awesome. great info! i really feel like i'm grasping things on a much better level. the layers thing is really what got to me. i do just have one tiny little thing that was bugging me while i made dinner. (yes, i'm a dork, lol). you'd said this: " But often, you may need to do some work before the constitutional can work to the best of it's ability and that you could call a layer." but then you said that you wouldnt really call that a "layer".... just to make sure-- YOU personally would not call this work that needs to be done a "layer" BUT there are some (many?) homeopaths who DO/would call it a layer. yes? i liked what you said before-- "some would tell you that there are layers of miasms, others would say there are just plain old layers of stuff-there is a type of homeopathy known as sequential homeopathy which works in layers.  So yes, it's a definite idea in homeopathy." which is really what i was trying to unravel before. so, thank you! and i'll try and read more before i start asking questions on too-little coffee. ;-)  

 

so... is your brother a brown, too? lol.gif

post #1045 of 1199
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I never think there's ONE answer to any problem and I get really irritated when different modalities claim that they can heal things in a vacuum.

 


yeah that.

 

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you'd said this: " But often, you may need to do some work before the constitutional can work to the best of it's ability and that you could call a layer." but then you said that you wouldnt really call that a "layer".... just to make sure-- YOU personally would not call this work that needs to be done a "layer" BUT there are some (many?) homeopaths who DO/would call it a layer. yes?

correct.  as I said it was getting hard to answer more universally when those answers are at odds with my personal perspective.  I'm *trying* to be clear that my perspective is just that and that there are many sides to this story.   I don't want anyone to think I'm answer on behalf of homeopaths everywhere.  As if it were possible.  LOL.  So yes.  You *could* call that a layer, but I do not.

so... is your brother a brown, too? lol.gif

no, he is most definitely blue.  However he has the same inquisitive without being argumentative way of discussing things.  He's also very resigned in his exploration (a blue thing...but brown has blue in it!)  it's the way you're asking and the "fair enough." that closes things that reminds me so much of him. when others get all fired up and then argumentative...you'll watch him start to get fired up, then something makes sense, and he's able to let go of the extraneous stuff and accept.  It's refreshing.
 

 

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ahhh. well, interestingly, that would have been a whole lot harder for me, before the silica/centaury. "in the face of those who are angry," remember? ah-ha! IT WORKS. :-) lol. it is interesting, though, because it's coming SO naturally. and resolves huge issues i've had my whole life. i dont have to "try." it's just there. absolutely amazing. 

 

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Panserbjorne: Thanks for the website! I'm really thinking of getting the Bioplasma Cell Salt, and start giving that to all of us. Should I get the 6x, 12x, or 30x? My dd's issues aren't severe, but definitely annoying and bothersome. And, is it ok to let my kids chew the little tablets, or should I really be dissolving them in something? Thanks!

post #1049 of 1199

The tablets dissolve really fast, so you don't actually chew them. Most dissolve before you COULD chew them. LOL

 

Putting them in water makes frequent dosing easier.

 

Instead of 2-4 tablets four times a day, you put them all in a water bottle at the beginning of the day and sip throughout the day.

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sunnysandiegan: Thanks! My kids aren't big water drinkers, could I dissolve the tablets in milk or a fruit smoothie/juice?

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in that case I'd just give them directly.

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ds isnt a big water drinker either... unless it has cell salts and FEs in it-- then he cant get enough! 

post #1053 of 1199

Would cell salts work for tinnitus that has been going on for years?  I am pretty new to cell salts but have ordered all them, they seem amazing :)

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Can anyone please explain how I can help this:

 

I often get migraine headaches or it seems like that is what they are...It starts with giving me the feeling that I need to eat esp. sugar or just food, even though I have already eaten.

Then it escalates even if I eat, and then finally I go to bed and wake up still with a headache and then finally I have loose stools and I throw up.  Its happening more often than not since August last year.

I also start shivering before I throw up.  But the stools and throwing up both go hand and in hand. My gut says that my body is heating up which is why its happening.

 

Has anyone experienced this or anything like?

I had another episode today.

 

On a different front, 

 

I had asked my parents who were traveling in the US to bring me bioplasma, I started them for my 2.5 yr old daughter and she didn't seem any different, she was very more melodramatic than usual on the two days that she had them -- I followed the dose on the bottle. Do they work right away? Is her behavior a flag, should I continue? The reason I am starting these for her is to give her general strength overall, she is a very small eater and a picky one at that, so a sort of "insurance".

 

I'd appreciate any thoughts, advice.

Thank you in advance.

 

post #1055 of 1199

Well, finally after 6 days of fever my 4 yr old DS's fever went away.  I have to get better prepared to handle the high fevers for next time.  Today he has been acting very odd.  Very moody and whining most of the day. This is not like him.  I figure it must be due to the illness.  Then all of a sudden he has been urinating alot.  I don't know why.  Anything I can do to help with this? 

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PB--or anyone else with input--Wondering how long we observe before adding another salt. I am specifically interested at this moment in my daughter's nighttime teeth grinding. We have been doing the calc flour and calc phos for a week +  (was doing well on at least 3 x a day, but in the last day or two have been missing a dose). Would that be long enough to notice change? I have stopped the Bioplasma, as I intuitively agree w/ PB on the not "just take Bioplasma" approach. I could see getting benefits, but on the deeper level one could get from figuring out the specific salt/salts really needed. Anyway, I was thinking of trying Mag Phos next if we don't see a benefit. Thanks. Below is PB's response first, then my original question.

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right now this is a great start.  sometimes clenching is mag phos, sometimes kali phos and sometimes nat phos.  Actually-calc fluor can have it too.  So I'd say you can start with calc fl. and calc p. and observe.  If the clenching doesn't stop you can add in the salt that makes sense.  you could *also* give bioplasma, but I'm not a fan of the "just take bioplasma" approach.    You'll see benefits, but not nearly so much as if you use them as a system of medicine.  I don't think it's *wrong* to start with just bioplasma though.  It's the gateway for most.

 

for the clenching structural work can also be extremely helpful alongside the salts.  Bodywork and energy medicine both work better together IMO.  Just another thought!
 

 



 



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While on the conversation of teeth, I wanted to ask a couple of questions. I am still trying to wade my way through all this. I feel like my children and I have several things going on that would find direct benefit from cell salts, but the teeth issue seems to be the one I have focused on to start with. I bought Calc Flour and Calc Phos and have been giving them to both kids daily for ~ a week. I have given myself some a little less frequently.  I have been giving the kids Bioplasma as well. I want to make sure that this is what I should be giving.

 

DD--One cavity recently filled, got first tooth at 8 months, has her first loose teeth at 6 years, grinds her teeth so I am worried about the enamel (figuring there is something else I should be giving for teeth grinding-mag phos?)

DS--Only has ever had one cleaning and all was good, also got first tooth at 8 months, has never drank milk and had a period of no dairy/low calcium

Me--MANY cavities filled over the years, one root canal, clench my teeth which has caused afractions/lesions in my teeth and worn enamel, teeth used to be very tight and hard to floss and now have a lot of space between them

 

So, are Calc Flour and Calc Phos likely to be helpful to us? Should my DD and I add something else (Mag Phos) for teeth clenching/TMJ stuff?

 

I am trying to wrap my head around all the symptoms and possible use of cell salts. Is it best to take a salt for each symptom? Or just take Bioplasma?

 

Thanks.



 

post #1057 of 1199
I was browsing at the bookstore n the'personality' section and saw a book on facial reading and how personality traits are linked to facial features. They went through most of what was in the facial reading wizard that was posted a couple pages ago. And then had a short description of personality traits associated with the different features. I thought it was interesting to see that right after our discussion of miasms.
post #1058 of 1199

Can we re visit food sensitivities again?

 

So I'm giving us (me and the kids) kali mur, nat mur, nat phos, and nat sulph.  plus calc flor for my 8 year old whose teeth are coming in crooked.

 

Now that's a lot!  Generally they seem to be doing better.  A while back I posted about my son's ongoing constipation and very huge dark bags under his eyes.  I think calc flor is helping with the constipation.  But those bags!  They are just huge! (and he avoids most allergen triggers of dairy, gluten, citrus, etc.)  Will it take a long time for this to go away/clear?

 

Further, we all have huge problems still digesting carbs and fruit.  Any insight into this?  Dd starts coughing with too much, and Ds gets more constipated. (They get probiotics and I ferment things.  Enzymes don't help with this issue either.)

 

Any insight would be most appreciated!

post #1059 of 1199

the cell salts are a great support and given time they may well take care of the situation.  however if someone is uncomfortable I don't think it's necessary to confine them to one healing modality.  I have my kids on salts for food allergies/chronic disease but I also do clay, homeopathy, flower essences, nutrition and a few targeted supplements in addition to bodywork.  We've had remarkable success, but I really do think it's because I never rely on just one thing to help.  So perhaps you want to add in additional support?

 

I'd consider calc phos in addition to nat phos for this issue for sure though.  I like to use clay as liver support but glutathione can also help with those dark circles.  calc fluor and ferrum phos are what you'd generally give for them-but as you're already doing calc fluor I'd give stronger physical support as well.  I'd not abandon the salts though!  calc phos is excellent for food allergies in general and nat phos is great for indigestibility of fruits AND liver support so I'd be suprised if you don't see changes, it just may take a long time if it's all you're doing.

post #1060 of 1199

This has been my experience with cell salts after using cell salts for a few months.  Cell salts are mostly like food or nourishment.  They seem to take a long time to work but are wonderful at treating long term chronic problems.  IME acute problems such as colds/flu respond better to homeopathy, herbs.  I also noticed that children respond the best to cell salts.  They seem to work better and faster in children.  This has just been what I have noticed and just wondering what others have noticed.

Lindsay

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