Tell me about cell salts. - Page 55

[bluets]

Originally Posted by ttcintexas 

Thanks for your response, Bluets. I do work with a homeopath, who has given my DD various remedies (constitutional and acutes) over the years. I know we have talked about the teeth grinding in recent consultations. I brought up the cell salts to her last summer and she was one of those homeopaths that does not support them. Not sure she really even understood what they were as she looked at the 6x on my Bioplasma and said that was a high dose of all those things--my understanding is it's not the same as homeopathic dosages. I have not tried determining remedies myself (this is a bit frustrating...always feeling like I have to call my homeopath and pay each time we have an acute issue). Cell salts seemed somehow simpler in that there are only 12 to choose from.

Anyway, interesting about the parasites. I really hope that is not what it is. Is this what you think it is tied to in your DS? Is Cinca specific to parasites? Guess I better look up what other symptoms come a long with that. I have always thought her digestion was pretty good--she is my good pooper :) But she has always had sleep issues and is a very picky eater! And when she was x-rayed at the chiropractor she showed lots of gas. Her neck is quite messed up, and we have been using chiro to try and correct this, so I was hoping that has some to do with the grinding. Of course the pedi and the pedi dentist says it's normal for kids to grind.

Thanks again for your response.

Yes, like PB, I'm surprised at your homeopath's response.  Then again, cell salts are sometimes out of homeopathic purview due to philosophy.  (Or, dare I even think it?  Maybe not a well trained homeopath?)

My mentor will do free phone consults for regular clients for acute issues, for the most part, though he does have a piece of text in his disclaimer documents that threaten fees for consults.

You say her neck is messed up.  In what way?  And how is her overall alignment?  Usually, where there is one region of hypermobility, there is an opposing region of hypomobility.  My guess would be some instability elsewhere - lumbar? sacral region?  And if lumbar, that would explain the gas :)  And if not a spinal instability, then there could be something else going on in the cranial region.  My bias is clear - I don't think chiro has a complete picture of bony health; if it were my child, I would head to a cranial osteopath, someone who might have connections to the Sutherland Society.  I'm blessed in that my HCP is a classical osteopath with a layer of naturopathic training - so we get the best of both worlds.

IT IS NOT NORMAL FOR ANYONE TO GRIND THEIR TEETH!  That is why it can be listed as a symptom (even a keynote, sometimes) in homeopathic repertories/materia medica. 

Enough digression for this cell salts thread.  :)  I'd agree with PB on the suggestion for 5-phos and calc fluor.  Calc fluor would help loosen up tissues, improve elasticity, and help maintain any manipulations/adjustments, so it wouldn't hurt as well.

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by bluets 

My bias is clear - I don't think chiro has a complete picture of bony health; if it were my child, I would head to a cranial osteopath, someone who might have connections to the Sutherland Society.  I'm blessed in that my HCP is a classical osteopath with a layer of naturopathic training - so we get the best of both worlds.

as does mine and I find it thoroughly frustrating that I get such amazing care, but when I send others for cranial work with a chiro it falls woefully short.  Couple that with the fact that I have TWO osteopaths in my state (of hundreds) that actually does manipulation and I just want to throw my hands in the air!

[ttcintexas]

Bluets and PB - I truly appreciate all your input (and digression!). I do think her overall alignment is off. I remember from her initial chiro exam that is sounded like she was "off" from head to toe--down to no arch in one foot! This was a bit of a shock to me. I don't remember the specifics from the x-ray but do know the chiro said her neck was like a stick, rather than a snake, when we first started. We haven't been in a couple of weeks, but at the end of several weeks of once a week her neck was moving better.

I like the suggestion of a cranial osteopath. I think everyone in my family could benefit from this. Unfortunately I live in a very allopathic-minded community. There is not homeopath, no naturopath and I know of one cranio/sacral person. I don't know if she's any good, but worth looking in to. It is challenging because my kids aren't presenting as very sick or obviously unhealthy, but that are clear signs that things could be better. I cherish this forum for it's info and assistance in slowing pushing me toward figuring stuff out. 

I definitely agree with you both on the path toward healing being multifaceted. Thanks for your info and time.

[mimi!]

Ds just went to the osteopath yesterday.  She was recommended by a friend, and I just felt like this might be the key for his on going constipation and puffy eyes.(he's been on the salts since Nov. - while his body is stronger, there has not been much of a shift yet).  Ds said that it felt like the osteopath "did nothing."  However, she predicted an aggravation when he got home, and that he would poop in the am.  Well, no aggravation when we got home.  Forgot about the treatment.  Then, at bed time, whammy!  Major major freak out!  He often takes a while to fall asleep, but he really went nuts over this.  After a good cry, he settled, and in the am pooped.  

Interestingly, the osteopath said his stomach was really tense, as was his lower back, due to constipation.  She wondered if the cord was cut right at birth.  She finds that if the cord is cut immediately after birth, there is often alot of tension around the belly button.  We remember waiting until the cord finished pulsating, so its hard to say if this is the case for him, but very interesting!  She was even able to pin point some falls he had recently in his spine (even though he's been to the chiro a few times in the last 6 months). 

She also said that the treatments can then open up the path for homeopathic rememdies to then work.  Well, that's a relief, as he's seen the homeopath since he was 1 year old.  I wonder now how the salts will also begin to work.  I don't fully understand osteopathy, but it seems to me that it works on the nervous system.  She also found that the base of his skull was very tight.  The bones are supposed to be more supple she said.  So here's to calc flour (which I added in a month ago) and making the skull more supple.

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by mimi! 

She also said that the treatments can then open up the path for homeopathic rememdies to then work.  Well, that's a relief, as he's seen the homeopath since he was 1 year old.  I wonder now how the salts will also begin to work.  I don't fully understand osteopathy, but it seems to me that it works on the nervous system.  She also found that the base of his skull was very tight.  The bones are supposed to be more supple she said.  So here's to calc flour (which I added in a month ago) and making the skull more supple.

I find this to be the absolutely true.  That's why I work with a CST.  If the remedies aren't working and they are well selected I send them next door to the CST.  Almost with out exception the remedy will then get it there and do it's thing.  That is why my "three legged stool" for healing is, and always will be, structure, energy and nutrition.
 

[aweynsayl]

it's a rather awkward stool where part of it is so affordable and easy to come by in comparison with part which is very expensive and hard or impossible to access.... :-(

just out of curiosity, what would the letters be indicating someone with the training you feel is important? or, how does one know what to look for? or how to find someone?

[LionessMom]

me and all my bio children just got diagnosed with fructose intolerance. we have had it since birth. it causes us to not absorb all of our nutrients which leads to problems. fibromyalgia, bad teeth, low iron, cramps, pain, fatigue, trouble gaining weight, and emotional stuff.

i bought bio plasma. the lactose gives me al ittle heartburn but my kids love them.

what else do you think we should take and can i just put some in the bottle of water/tea they take for lunch? they would only be drinking it at lunch. i can give them more at dinner.

[LionessMom]

wow, i just read the whole thread. so much info. how awesome.

so i have been giving bioplasma to the kids and myself. i have noticed that my DD2's teeth look better already after only 3 days. i am going to add calc fluor and calc phos to the kids afternoon water. then silica to the evening water. is that ok? and can i add it to tea or just water?

i read the post (in the beginning of the thread) which had a table to see your symptoms and how it coordinated to the salts. we have all the symptoms. for every salt. would we just do better to get the stronger bioplasma? i am looking at the bottle and see that some stuff lists as 6x and some as 3x.

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by LionessMom 

wow, i just read the whole thread. so much info. how awesome.

so i have been giving bioplasma to the kids and myself. i have noticed that my DD2's teeth look better already after only 3 days. i am going to add calc fluor and calc phos to the kids afternoon water. then silica to the evening water. is that ok? and can i add it to tea or just water?

i read the post (in the beginning of the thread) which had a table to see your symptoms and how it coordinated to the salts. we have all the symptoms. for every salt. would we just do better to get the stronger bioplasma? i am looking at the bottle and see that some stuff lists as 6x and some as 3x.

you can take bioplasma, and I'd stick with 3 and 6x's. 

It often does look as though you have indications for each salt, but there will be a clear indication for just a few.  Sometimes bioplasma can be the catalyst to help you see which, and sometimes it's easier to find a practitioner take a peek at the case to really ferret out the keystone.  Either way, you can start with bioplasma and then see how things progress.

[sunnysandiegan]

Ferrum phosphate to the rescue!   I had a hangnail that got snagged (OUCH!) and I could feel the beginnings of an infection. It was HOT, so I took ferr phos several times a day for a few days and I rubbed a powdered ferr phos on the hot skin at the same time. On the first day, I also took some mag phos. The hangnail is still there (shrinking on its own and no longer stiff/catching on things). The pain and irritation is all gone.

[es1967]

Earlier this week I went to my first cranial sacral therapy session to help with my TMJ issues that have recently developed.  I felt very relaxed as if a weight was lifted from my body.  My symptoms of TMJ are 90% better.   Going for another session next wk.   I'm taking Mag phos for the TMj and Calc Fluor for my lymph node issues under my arm.  I'm hoping that by doing the CST it can help unblock the left side of my body.  It seems odd that the TMJ is on the left and the lymph nodes under my arm?  Anyone had issues w things happening on one side of the body?  I did go to my obgyn office and have an ultrasound on the nodes. The radiologist/breast specialist did say they looked benign but I'm going back to see him next week.  So I am hoping the calc fluor will work.  Wonder if 4 x per day is enough for my issue?  I'm going to do the CAstor oil pack again but getting a heating pad b/c the water bottle can't get to the are under my arm very well.  Hope PB can answer this question for me- I know its not cell salt related but is massaging the lymph node area a good idea??  I have been following Dr schulze for years and found a page where he says to massage daily, do hot and cold therapy etc etc.  This advice was for growths etc but I'm not sure if one should massage lymph nodes or not?  I may cross post in my other threads to see if I can get some more advice.

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by es1967 

]Wonder if 4 x per day is enough for my issue?  I'm going to do the CAstor oil pack again but getting a heating pad b/c the water bottle can't get to the are under my arm very well.  Hope PB can answer this question for me- I know its not cell salt related but is massaging the lymph node area a good idea??  I have been following Dr schulze for years and found a page where he says to massage daily, do hot and cold therapy etc etc.  This advice was for growths etc but I'm not sure if one should massage lymph nodes or not?  I may cross post in my other threads to see if I can get some more advice.

I'd probably aim for more like 6 times a day, personally.

As for the massage, I'd find someone who specializes in lymphatic massage.  There are instances in which you wouldn't want to stir things up too much and it might be a better idea for someone to support the area around the nodes so that they are more able to drain.  As far as the castor oil pack, putting it near the nodes as opposed to on them is still acceptable.

As for the "sidedness" it's a common thing we look for in homeopathy.  I've a few dozen surgeries in my lifetime-a dozen or so on my eyes and that was bilateral.  However, every surgery that was a result of injury was right sided-shoulder, hip and knee.  All before I was 21.  Yes, it means something!
 

[es1967]

Originally Posted by Panserbjorne 

I'd probably aim for more like 6 times a day, personally.

As for the massage, I'd find someone who specializes in lymphatic massage.  There are instances in which you wouldn't want to stir things up too much and it might be a better idea for someone to support the area around the nodes so that they are more able to drain.  As far as the castor oil pack, putting it near the nodes as opposed to on them is still acceptable.

As for the "sidedness" it's a common thing we look for in homeopathy.  I've a few dozen surgeries in my lifetime-a dozen or so on my eyes and that was bilateral.  However, every surgery that was a result of injury was right sided-shoulder, hip and knee.  All before I was 21.  Yes, it means something!
 

Thanks for your help.   I'm hoping if resolve some of the problems on my left side-tight shoulder and neck with the CST and massage that it might help the lymph node problem and the tmj.  I've eaten super healthy all my life, juice, take superfoods, wheatgrass, do yoga, aerobic exercise etc. I think mentally I do need to learn how to relax , stress less which must be part of my problem.  I'l do the calc fluor 6 x per day.  Thanks again.

[Panserbjorne]

you're taking a good approach-that is the case for most of us and why I employ flowers as well!

[SuburbanHippie]

This thread is amazing!  I've started my kids all on a regime to help their teeth, particularly DD1 who has some major issues with "shark teeth" and DS2 who has soft enamel and cavities.  I've even given cell salts to the dog.  He has a couple open sores on his neck (because I'm a terrible owner and had his collar on too tight ).  I started him on ferrum phos to help the inflammation.  He's doing so much better already.  It's remarkable!  I'm waiting for my second (more complete) order to come in so I can tackle some other issues in our family.  Thanks for starting this thread, OP!

[SuburbanHippie]

Yesterday I had a dentist appointment that was a little more vigorous than I expected. My gums were throbbing when I left.  I went home and did 4 Ferrum Phos every 15 minutes for an hour and my gums felt 100% better.  They actually felt okay by the 2nd dose, but I kept going because I ate something and they started to feel irritated again.  I can't believe how well these work.  It's awesome!

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by SuburbanHippie 

Yesterday I had a dentist appointment that was a little more vigorous than I expected. My gums were throbbing when I left.  I went home and did 4 Ferrum Phos every 15 minutes for an hour and my gums felt 100% better.  They actually felt okay by the 2nd dose, but I kept going because I ate something and they started to feel irritated again.  I can't believe how well these work.  It's awesome!

very nice work!  yes, they are pretty amazing.

[freyja137]

I just thought I'd update a bit, since it's been a couple of weeks since I started on cell salts. After a bit of experimenting, I decided on silica and calc phos for the aforementioned tooth abscess issue; I've since added in kali phos, mag phos and calc fluor to help with some postpartum "bounceback" of tissues. So far, I'm really impressed.

I can't say that the abscess has gone down considerably in size, but it feels... different. But more surprisingly, things that I never thought would go away - that there was any sort of remedy at all for - have shown improvement. I have two blocked pores on my face that are basically pushing themselves out - they are barely noticeable now. (Has anyone else experienced this? I was really surprised...) I also have one spot on my upper left front tooth where either the gum seems to have receded or the tooth root is decaying (it looks like a spot - like there is open space, not decay, if that makes any sense) - I'd noticed that this got worse during my pregnancy. But since starting on cell salts, it has become MUCH less noticeable. My teeth in general are less sensitive and feel, for lack of a better way to describe it, more firm in my mouth. I'm very curious to see what will happen with prolonged use!

[Panserbjorne]

Originally Posted by freyja137 

I just thought I'd update a bit, since it's been a couple of weeks since I started on cell salts. After a bit of experimenting, I decided on silica and calc phos for the aforementioned tooth abscess issue; I've since added in kali phos, mag phos and calc fluor to help with some postpartum "bounceback" of tissues. So far, I'm really impressed.

I can't say that the abscess has gone down considerably in size, but it feels... different. But more surprisingly, things that I never thought would go away - that there was any sort of remedy at all for - have shown improvement. I have two blocked pores on my face that are basically pushing themselves out - they are barely noticeable now. (Has anyone else experienced this? I was really surprised...) I also have one spot on my upper left front tooth where either the gum seems to have receded or the tooth root is decaying (it looks like a spot - like there is open space, not decay, if that makes any sense) - I'd noticed that this got worse during my pregnancy. But since starting on cell salts, it has become MUCH less noticeable. My teeth in general are less sensitive and feel, for lack of a better way to describe it, more firm in my mouth. I'm very curious to see what will happen with prolonged use!

have you considered calc sulph for the abscess? 
 

great report otherwise!  It makes a lot of sense and it's what many people tend to see-a good remedy will produce changes to things you haven't even been trying to address.

[colsxjack]

I came to this thread a couple of days ago to get some quick how-to's and advice about cell salts for my 21month old DD. Thinking this may be the answer...or at least help her some.

Well, Ive read a lot of the thread and now I am a bit overwhelmed to say the least! And also determined that maybe cell salts are really the way to go...the thing that will help.

Would love some advice from all of you who are very knowledgable and kind enough to give so much advice.

The "story" of our daughter:

From the beginning my DD had a tough time sleeping. Never really slept more than 20minutes at a time for the first few months.

We saw a chiro for her, and it seemed to help. She was a big baby and had a traumatic birth...so we felt alignment could be an issue.

She was also exclusively breastfed and my wife cut dairy and soy, didn't have any caffiene since conception and ate very healthy. We eat very very little processed foods.

My DD starting eating food at 7months or so. From the beginning we saw a lot of issues with what we believed to be food intolerances. She had bad cradle cap from birth to about age 8months. She got eczema patches on her chest, legs and sometimes stomach and still does. She has itchy ears alot, but has never had an ear infection. She has had one cold and been sick one other time. Lots of face rashes and very bad diaper rashes. She wears cloth diapers, uses natural unscented laundry detergent etc.

She has a face rash on her cheeks half the days of the week.

We have eliminated so many things from her diet. We have taken her to a chiro, to a homeopathic nutritionist, to an allergist, to a pediatric nutritionist. We have kept diaries of everything she eats or ingests, her sleep patterns, her bowel movements, rashes, etc, etc, etc. When we see any thing that seems like a pattern we change it, eliminate it, whatever. We see a change for a few days and then back to the rashes, undigested food in her stool, loose stools, etc. After long periods of time we sometimes reintroduce a food and do not see symptoms reappear for a bit...and then they appear again.

We have kept to a diet that we believe to be harmless for her and have seen her symptoms all over the place over a couple of weeks of introducing nothing to her that has shown to be a problem.

She eats very well, whole natural home cooked foods. Lots of vegetables, fruits, healthy meats, bone broths. She is soy and dairy free. Although we did reintroduce organic kefir and she doesn't react to the small dose we give her. She takes probiotics and prebiotics and enzymes. She eats healthy fats (coconut oil, olive oil and avocado). She only drinks breast milk, water and a little bit of almond milk. She is developing on track or ahead of the "norm".

But she still has all of these issues with rashes, trouble sleeping, etc. Her hair grows very very slowly. Her nails grow very fast. I am also worried about her teeth. They seems healthy enough, but I am not sure if they are changing shape or not. The front teeth seemed a bit chipped, but they dont seem to be changing. And now I do not know if I am just paranoid.

Anyway. I am at a loss. She has tested as not allergic to anything. They think she "may be" lactose intolerant. But she seems to react the same to lactose free dairy as she does to regular dairy.

I am thinking that maybe all of this stuff is something else not related to food. Although, she does seem to be very sensitive to dried fruits, dairy, berries, and acidic foods like tomatoes and citrus. I am now thinking that maybe she is lacking in something else or there is another way to fix her other than food related.

Thank you if you have gotten through all of this.

Any advice on what we can try?

Or maybe on the type of health practitioner we can take her to? Beautiful thing is we live in a city with a lot of resources (Toronto) and my health insurance covers NP's, chiro, acupuncture, etc.

Thanks.