Charting to Avoid/Fertility Awareness, FEB 2010 - Page 17

[annie2186]

Rara - I'm not sure.............your temps are always up, down, up, down aren't they? Looking at your last cycle's chart - it looks like you temp went down quite a few times.....I know billings let you down last time - but have you been keeping track of CM at all? Did you have a good dry up right around the temp rise? If so - I would say you are good.
On a totally other subject -at first I thought you said you woke up to take DS to the potty - and I was going to feel quite inadequate

AFM - do you expert ladies think I ? I have had a serious dry-up the past few days, but my temps have been like the rocky mountains this cycle.......

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/26af7e

TIA!

[Sk8ermaiden]

I definitely think there's a good chance there!!

[RaraAvis]

Originally Posted by annie2186

Rara - I'm not sure.............your temps are always up, down, up, down aren't they? but have you been keeping track of CM at all?
AFM - do you expert ladies think I ? I have had a serious dry-up the past few days, but my temps have been like the rocky mountains this cycle.......

I it definitely seems more sticky than anything else now, and my cervix feel firmer and closed. . . but I am always worrying about wishful thinking. . .

BTW, I think it looks like you did ! But I'm such a 'fraidy cat I'd give it one more day

[MarineWife]

Beth ~ It still looks good to me. It's not the actual temps that are important. It's the biphasic pattern. Your temp is still above your CL, which I would put at 96.6.

annie ~ It's a bit ambiguous but it looks like O to me. Maybe wait for one more high temp and day of CF dry up to be sure.

I keep forgetting to mention that I wouldn't rely on the Advanced O detector on FF. I keep my charts set to FAM, which is usually more accurate, imo. I think usually it's more conservative so better for CTA. Sometimes it can be wonky and I'll get a better interpretation from Advanced but not usually. I only try Advanced if I think the FAM detector is being weird.

AFM, I guess yesterday was not the beginning of a thermal shift. My temp was way down this am. My CF was essentially dry yesterday and my CP was LFC so I don't know what's going on. At least I'm not feeling bad anymore. I think we might finally be over the stomach bug. We went through all of yesterday and last night with no one getting sick.

[annie2186]

Thanks for the help ladies! I will wait until until tomorrow to see what it looks like - I am pretty sure I did because I am pretty dry. I think my temp would have been higher today - but I had a pretty restless night......just could get good sleep! I actually took my temp at 2 in the morning and it was 93.1 because the baby was making noise and I thought it was around temping time!
I did expierment a few times and took my temp in the morning and then got up to do something and took it again, and it's always lower (which is funny, because I thought it would be higher )

Glad you and your family are feeling better MW! I think when kids have the stomach-bug is the WORST...........until they can make it to the toilet anyway.

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by annie2186

I did expierment a few times and took my temp in the morning and then got up to do something and took it again, and it's always lower (which is funny, because I thought it would be higher )

My temp is always lower if I take after getting up and moving around a bit. Seems counterintuitive.

Originally Posted by annie2186

Glad you and your family are feeling better MW! I think when kids have the stomach-bug is the WORST...........until they can make it to the toilet anyway.

Thanks. Yeah, if they could make it to the toilet or trash can or a bowl, it wouldn't be so bad. My 6yo can usually do that but I think it hit him so fast he didn't know what was happening. It's kind of funny because twice before he thought he was going to be sick and ran to the bathroom but didn't vomit. When he did actually get sick, it was all over his friend! Poor guy.

[lyterae]

MW: I'm glad to hear that you guys are feeling better, hopefully that trend continues!

Annie: My temp is also lower if I take it after I get up and move around, makes it difficult when I wake up at 5:45 because my dd is yelling she had to go potty. My first instinct is to fly out of bed and get her...

AFM: I don't know what to expect anymore, my period is over after 1.5 days? What the heck?

[onetwoten]

I had a light one too this month. Maybe being sick is affecting how much the lining builds up? I'm totally stretching here

[fresh_veggie]

It probably doesn't matter that I know this since I took a plan b 6 days ago, but here's a scenario - I always temp after exactly 5 hours of sleep, since I never go to bed at EXACTLY the same time. It's either go to bed at midnight and 5am that I take it, or 6am if I go to bed at 1am, etc. How bad is this?

I ask because I had to write a speech I procrastinated that's due in class tomorrow. It's 5am now, with no sleep. The thing is, I can wake up at 10am because my class is later in the day. How will this affect my temp if I get 5 consecutive hours still?

I know it's not ideal. I really really need to get better with sleep, but my work schedule is always changing and I'm always procrastinating some project, it seems...(maybe x-post to personal growth jk).

Anyone have an insight? tia

[greenmamapagan]

Subbing. Billings (no temp charting) helped us avoid for a full year until we all got a month long flu & I was too distracted to pay attention. Now we have DS he's most welcome but I really need to avoid that happening again. I'm half way through my second cycle since he was born. Feeding through the night & I can't really imagine myself taking my temperature at any reliable time but I guess I should try huh? Or do you think it's doable with Billings only (excepting flu accidents of course )

[annie2186]

FreshVeggie - due to a 15 month old, there are nights I only get 1 or 2 or 3 hours of straight sleep before taking my temp..........I always take it at 6am - and I just kind of play it by ear. So far my charts have been pretty readable. HTH!

GreenMama - I think that temping before your first PPAF is a waste of time.........I tried it and I got bored. I didn't get my first PPAF until 10 months PP.
I would personally be on the lookout for fertile CM and also read up (google) all you can about exclusive breastfeeding (if that is what you are doing) because it is a very reliable form of natural family planning for "up to" the first 6 months


AFM - I hope you ladies agree that I O'd 4 days ago..............because I kind of already assumed I was safe this morning

oops, this might help;

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/26af7e

[Smylingeyz]

Hi everyone - haven't been on here in over a month, but I'm still here. Thought we were told we'd stay on the CTA list thru Jan as long as we posted in Feb, maybe I read that wrong, cuz I was taken off the list...
Ok I need someone to look at my chart, oh and we used w/d on cd 19 and 21. Think I have it set to show that stuff...
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2ab1c6
I dunno what's going on, AF is 3 days late, I thought I Oed on time or even a day or two early, but my temps were crazy so I'm pretty much having to rely on CF to figure it out. I'm working 2 nights a week now, which stinks cuz I can't temp on those nights and it makes the chart hard to read too. I haven't taken a pregnancy test yet, I only have one and I'm broke so I'm gonna try waiting a few days.
DH and I are back together (yay!), and last night signed an apartment lease, we're moving Sat. Given that my income is more than half our combined income, and I get so horribly sick when I'm prego that I can't work much if at all, I feel like the timing is so bad that I could be prego, that's pretty much what happened last time. Tho I'd be SO EXCITED cuz I'm dying for another one. Just dunno how we'd survive if it happened now. Thanks for looking ladies!

[annie2186]

smyling - I think there is a chance you didn't O until CD19 - which would put you at only 10 days past O.

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by fresh_veggie

I always temp after exactly 5 hours of sleep, since I never go to bed at EXACTLY the same time. It's either go to bed at midnight and 5am that I take it, or 6am if I go to bed at 1am, etc. How bad is this?

MNSHO, if you were taking your temp more than an hour apart, I'd say this is very bad. Generally, it's better to take your temp as close to the same time as possible regardless of how much sleep you've gotten. You just mark your temp as sleep-deprived if you didn't get at least 3 consecutive hours of sleep before taking it. I think TCOYF says that as long as you take your temp within the same hour you should be able to see a thermal shift clearly. That has been my experience. So, first I would suggest that you pick a time to take your temp every morning regardless of when you go to sleep, like 6 am. Second, if the 10 am temp is a one time thing, you could adjust it. If it's going to be a regular thing, like once a week, you could probably just skip it. If it's more often than that, I'm not sure what you should do. I think TCOYF has some info about temping while doing shift work that might apply.

annie ~ I think you're safe. That's just the type of temp rise I was looking for to confirm O with NFP.

Smyling ~ Based on temps I would put O on cd19 to be safe. If you rely solely on CF, cd18 would be your peak day so that would be most likely O day. That makes you 13-14dpo. Would still be late then? Are you going by lp length or cycle length? LP length is more reliable than cycle length even if you are usually clockwork regular. Everyone can have an off cycle.

greenmamapagan ~ I don't know the details of Billings. Is that a CF only method? That can be very reliable as long as you follow the rules exactly. If you have any CF wetter than your BIP, abstain or use back up. Even if you've had several days of CF dry up and think you have probably Oed, if you start getting any CF again, you need to again abstain or use back up.

AFM, will this sickness every end?! I thought we were over it but 6yo ds threw up again last night and now has diarrhea. I think we're all going to wither away to nothing since we can't eat anything but broth and bread.

[Meksmama]

Smylingeyz: congrats on getting back together with dh...


MW* I hope you don't wither away. I am sure it will end... My homeopath says its going around and it hits everyone different... whether its vomiting or a cough and runny nose. It took us almost 2 wks to fully get rid of it...

AFM... FF finally decided I O'd on CD22, so we will see what happens with Last month I believe I had annov x2 and this month none so maybe my body is getting back on track! http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2ca59b

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by Meksmama

MW* I hope you don't wither away. I am sure it will end... My homeopath says its going around and it hits everyone different... whether its vomiting or a cough and runny nose. It took us almost 2 wks to fully get rid of it...

Yeah, I've heard the stomach thing is going around. It's kind of weird that we'd get it, though, since my kids don't go to school and we haven't been out much. The only other young kid we have contact with is the boy next door but he hasn't been sick like this. Before we moved here I hadn't been sick in years. Now we go through this every winter. January and February are spent alternating between sinus colds and stomach viruses. I don't know if it's the area or having young children.

[RaraAvis]

Originally Posted by MarineWife

MNSHO, if you were taking your temp more than an hour apart, I'd say this is very bad.

MW: You are always so blunt! Yesterday I told my DH "well, I was worrying, but MarineWife says it looks okay, and God knows she'd say if she was unsure"

annie: looking good!

Smylingeyz: If you did w/d successfully on 19 and 21 it seems pretty unlikely that you would be pregnant -- sometimes your lp can be a few days longer. . .

[fresh_veggie]

Originally Posted by annie2186

FreshVeggie - due to a 15 month old, there are nights I only get 1 or 2 or 3 hours of straight sleep before taking my temp..........I always take it at 6am - and I just kind of play it by ear. So far my charts have been pretty readable. HTH!

Originally Posted by MarineWife

MNSHO, if you were taking your temp more than an hour apart, I'd say this is very bad. Generally, it's better to take your temp as close to the same time as possible regardless of how much sleep you've gotten. You just mark your temp as sleep-deprived if you didn't get at least 3 consecutive hours of sleep before taking it. I think TCOYF says that as long as you take your temp within the same hour you should be able to see a thermal shift clearly. That has been my experience. So, first I would suggest that you pick a time to take your temp every morning regardless of when you go to sleep, like 6 am. Second, if the 10 am temp is a one time thing, you could adjust it. If it's going to be a regular thing, like once a week, you could probably just skip it. If it's more often than that, I'm not sure what you should do. I think TCOYF has some info about temping while doing shift work that might apply.

Thank you This helps clear things up!!

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by RaraAvis

MW: You are always so blunt! Yesterday I told my DH "well, I was worrying, but MarineWife says it looks okay, and God knows she'd say if she was unsure"

Thanks, I think.

[Kimmiepie]

Originally Posted by annie2186

FreshVeggie - due to a 15 month old, there are nights I only get 1 or 2 or 3 hours of straight sleep before taking my temp..........I always take it at 6am - and I just kind of play it by ear. So far my charts have been pretty readable. HTH!

GreenMama - I think that temping before your first PPAF is a waste of time.........I tried it and I got bored. I didn't get my first PPAF until 10 months PP.
I would personally be on the lookout for fertile CM and also read up (google) all you can about exclusive breastfeeding (if that is what you are doing) because it is a very reliable form of natural family planning for "up to" the first 6 months


AFM - I hope you ladies agree that I O'd 4 days ago..............because I kind of already assumed I was safe this morning

oops, this might help;

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/26af7e

I agree with temping before PPAF...I also found it boring and a waste of time. Of course if you really really want to be sure you don't get pregnant you could temp, even if the temps are not exactly regular, just to make sure that you don't miss an ovulation.

Annie- I agree with your O date.

Originally Posted by Smylingeyz

Hi everyone - haven't been on here in over a month, but I'm still here. Thought we were told we'd stay on the CTA list thru Jan as long as we posted in Feb, maybe I read that wrong, cuz I was taken off the list...
Ok I need someone to look at my chart, oh and we used w/d on cd 19 and 21. Think I have it set to show that stuff...
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2ab1c6
I dunno what's going on, AF is 3 days late, I thought I Oed on time or even a day or two early, but my temps were crazy so I'm pretty much having to rely on CF to figure it out. I'm working 2 nights a week now, which stinks cuz I can't temp on those nights and it makes the chart hard to read too. I haven't taken a pregnancy test yet, I only have one and I'm broke so I'm gonna try waiting a few days.
DH and I are back together (yay!), and last night signed an apartment lease, we're moving Sat. Given that my income is more than half our combined income, and I get so horribly sick when I'm prego that I can't work much if at all, I feel like the timing is so bad that I could be prego, that's pretty much what happened last time. Tho I'd be SO EXCITED cuz I'm dying for another one. Just dunno how we'd survive if it happened now. Thanks for looking ladies!

By looking at your chart, it seems to me that you probably didn't O until CD 19 based on your CM pattern.

AFM: Still waiting to O. http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2be681