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GreenMama - I think that temping before your first PPAF is a waste of time.........I tried it and I got bored. I didn't get my first PPAF until 10 months PP.
I would personally be on the lookout for fertile CM and also read up (google) all you can about exclusive breastfeeding (if that is what you are doing) because it is a very reliable form of natural family planning for "up to" the first 6 months
Gotta go back & check my post but I thought I wrote that this is my second PP cycle?
AF returned 1 day shy of six months with DD so at least tandem-feeding bought me three more days

ETA yep, checked my post but maybe it wasn't very clear?
Anyway. As I said, I'm halfway through my second cycle (i.e. I've had two bleeds) and of course DS was exclusively breastfed for six months, so was DD I'm pretty evangelistic about that
post #342 of 432
Baby fever's getting the better of me!! I'm expecting AF Wednesday, but everytime it comes I feel a sense of loss. I'm feeling nausious and pregnant, but I know it's really just crazy pre-AF symptoms like any other time. Trying to keep matter over mind!!
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Baby fever's getting the better of me!! I'm expecting AF Wednesday, but everytime it comes I feel a sense of loss.


I'm right there with you.

AFM: Eventful day today, so no time to do many personals. We dropped B. off at daycare this morning and had just walked into the office when we got the call that she had started vomiting. So... we both came home (my dh can work remote, I cannot) so that we didn't have to make the drive twice in one day since we carpool and that would be an extra 70 miles of travel for the day. She seems to be feeling better but still isn't eating very much, I'm hopeful that she'll be back at daycare tomorrow. We had a nice day watching cartoons and I got to make dinner and we got to eat before 7:30, amazing!

Today is CD 3, still having some light spotting off and on.. I started folic acid and maca this cycle. The folic acid because I feel somewhat irresponsible not taking any especially because I hope for an "oops" every cycle and the maca because I really need some assistance balancing out my hormones(PCOS symptoms) and I could certainly use the energy increase.

I'm trying to resign myself to the fact that it really is best that we avoid for at least another 1.5 years, it just seems so long and dd will be how old?! I really need to stop wrapping it all up around her though, it's not the end of the world to wait. Especially because our sole reason for waiting is so that we can be debt free. I feel like a broken record, how many times do I have to reason with myself before I finally get it and stop having a meltdown every AF? I feel so silly

If we get pregnant before we start TTC we will both be excited, but we both feel (well when I'm feeling reasonable anyway) it would be irresponsible to actually try for a baby with our current financial situation. It sucks, though our financial situation is most certainly our fault.
post #344 of 432
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We dropped B. off at daycare this morning and had just walked into the office when we got the call that she had started vomiting. So... we both came home (my dh can work remote, I cannot) so that we didn't have to make the drive twice in one day since we carpool and that would be an extra 70 miles of travel for the day. She seems to be feeling better but still isn't eating very much, I'm hopeful that she'll be back at daycare tomorrow.
I hope your dd feels better soon. Just an FYI, both my kids would go all day seeming to be fine. Playing like normal, causing all kinds of trouble, although not eating much. Then they'd get sick at night. After the vomiting was over, diarrhea lingered. My 2yo was sick for 5 days, I think. For my 6yo, it's going on 4 days.
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I hope your dd feels better soon. Just an FYI, both my kids would go all day seeming to be fine. Playing like normal, causing all kinds of trouble, although not eating much. Then they'd get sick at night. After the vomiting was over, diarrhea lingered. My 2yo was sick for 5 days, I think. For my 6yo, it's going on 4 days.
Ugh, I hate vomiting illnesses. I heard the same thing from daycare, we've had problems with B randomly throwing up before (we finally have an appointment with a new doctor). So I'm hopeful that it's just more of the same things we've been dealing with instead of the flu. Thank you for the heads up, I'll make sure to pack extra clothes and bags in the truck for the ride just in case...
post #346 of 432
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Gotta go back & check my post but I thought I wrote that this is my second PP cycle?
AF returned 1 day shy of six months with DD so at least tandem-feeding bought me three more days

ETA yep, checked my post but maybe it wasn't very clear?
Anyway. As I said, I'm halfway through my second cycle (i.e. I've had two bleeds) and of course DS was exclusively breastfed for six months, so was DD I'm pretty evangelistic about that
oops - my bad! I guess I didn't read that part

Personally - I think temping or not temping is a personal decision. I learned creighton and I didn't even know any of these other methods existed. I learned it right after I had my first LO and didn't get an PPAF for 10 months......so - short version I got a BFP when my LO was 15 months.

THIS time around I was a little paranoid (I'm Catholic) so I decided to start checking into EVERYTHING!

I don't think I really even use a "method" per se, and I think that is because I learned creighton (which doesn't use temps) but I REALLY REALLY like temping. Once you get used to it, it becomes second nature. PLUS with my random cycles its nice to be able to pinpoint O very accurately.

plus PLUS you can post your chart here for these wonderful ladies to look over and help you feel even MORE confident
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MW & Cass: I hope everyone is feeling better soon!

Annie: I say CD 29, but you're still good.

Smylingeyz: Depends on the reasons for the open circles, but I'd go w/O on CD 19.

Kimmie: Looks like you are in a nice gearing up pattern! Lower, more stable temps, fertile CM starting...

Meksmama: I'm not confident of FF's CD 22 O for you...what's the story w/your open circles? There a LOT at critical times!

fresh_veggie: Yup, pick a time! Or you could try temping both after X amount of sleep and at a specific time and compare the charts to see which is more clear.

greenmamapagan: Welcome! Many of us find temping doable even w/night nursing.
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Originally Posted by eirual
Baby fever's getting the better of me!! I'm expecting AF Wednesday, but everytime it comes I feel a sense of loss.

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I'm right there with you.
Yeah that. I'm post AF, pre-o but feeling very nauseus and exhausted, and keep having to keep my mind in check from being like 'well.... AF *was* pretty light this month... and the timing wasn't half bad'

I hate how we let our minds get away from us, even when we know it's bad.
post #349 of 432
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Baby fever's getting the better of me!! I'm expecting AF Wednesday, but everytime it comes I feel a sense of loss. I'm feeling nausious and pregnant, but I know it's really just crazy pre-AF symptoms like any other time. Trying to keep matter over mind!!
Gah, you're not alone! My DH left the country today so I'm on solo duty for a couple of weeks. I've been visualizing giving him the "baby back" meal upon his return... BUT I think I was really just dreaming when I thought a possible oops might have happened.
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If anyone wants to see a plan B chart...

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/ttc/c...&ts=1266912338

Guess which day I took a progesterone megadose? Normally, my cycles last twice as long as this, with bleeding starting around the 7th, but I began to bleed Monday morning again. This was actually my first month charting, as I just got my paragard IUD out. Silly DH.
post #351 of 432
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If anyone wants to see a plan B chart...

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/ttc/c...&ts=1266912338

Guess which day I took a progesterone megadose? Normally, my cycles last twice as long as this, with bleeding starting around the 7th, but I began to bleed Monday morning again. This was actually my first month charting, as I just got my paragard IUD out. Silly DH.
That link took me to my own chart. Can you fix it? I'd love to see it.

On the subject of hormone pills and bc, have you all noticed the new Mirena commercial? When it first came out they were very loud about the fact that you could get pg again as soon as you had it out. It wouldn't interfere with your fertility. Now they say you can start trying to get pg right after having it removed but it may cause infertility. The commercial also discloses that the IUD could get embedded in the uterine lining. That's not a new s/e that was just discovered. It's been known for a very long time that that can happen with IUDs. Why are they just now disclosing it? Maybe because it's been out long enough now that they are getting a lot of complaints and reports of problems?

When reading up on plan b (levonorgestrel), I discovered the same hormone is used in the Mirena and was used in the Norplant system. I had the Norplant system and I'm convinced that's what caused my PCOS and caused me to have so much trouble conceiving ds2. Personally, I think that's some bad stuff!
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freshveggie - that links also sends me to my chart

MW - Crazy info.........I am still so surprised at the stuff women unwittingly put that in their body because "the doc said its ok" or because "everyone else is doing it" :eyeroll

AFM - What in the WORLD is going on?????? My temp this morning was only 97.5.........granted I had a period where the baby woke up and I didn't get back to bed until about 4 (to take a temp at 6) Anyways, long story short WTF????

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/26af7e

I thought that after was confirmed (aka three days) you FORSURE and you don't have to worry or even TEMP anymore! What is the deal, yo?

Anyways, I am a little stressed.......how many days do I have to wait? 4, 5, 6?? gosh.
post #353 of 432
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Originally Posted by annie2186 View Post
I thought that after was confirmed (aka three days) you FORSURE and you don't have to worry or even TEMP anymore! What is the deal, yo?

Anyways, I am a little stressed.......how many days do I have to wait? 4, 5, 6?? gosh.
This is what TCOYF says. It also says you can have a few temps that drop at or below your CL during your lp and still be ok. Since you are concerned, I suggest you keep an eye on your cf and use caution if you have anything wetter than your BIP.
post #354 of 432
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I hate hormonal birth control, I had irregular periods prior to birth control but I was sane at least. I've struggled with depression and mood swings ever since I started on birth control (I've been on birth control for a total of about 2 years in the last 7) and even off of birth control I still can't manage to completely overcome it. I feel like it's permanently messed things up and my current goal is just to make things liveable because I don't seem to be able to fix it.

AFM: CD 4, woohoo. This is the boring time of my cycle, not much going on. Forgot to temp this morning though. B. is back at daycare today, her appetite has not yet returned but she is playing and such.. Hopefully the bug doesn't make another appearance but I guess we just wait and see.
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annie, with that chart I'd probably wait at least one more day to consider yourself safe. Your temp shift isn't 100% clear because you have that one higher temp before and your first one is right on your coverline...so possibly you haven't even O'd yet? But if today's low temp was due to messed up sleep, and tomorrow's temp is back up, you are probably good. I would watch your CF too just to make sure.

Smylingeyz, I agree with the others about CD 19. So that makes you, what? 14 dpo? Is that out of the range of normal for you yet or not? I saw your last LP was probably about 13 days but you didn't temp.

fresh veggie, the chart link didn't work for me either, it took me to my last chart. I would be very interested in seeing it though if you can get it to show up for us!

AFM, nothing happening yet. Only Cd 7 around these parts.
post #356 of 432
MW - thanks for the info, that is what I THOUGHT was the case............I was just kind of wondering why FF was so quick to take away my coverline. They didn't even give me crosshairs AND I put in a fake high temp for tomorrow and they didn't even give me crosshairs or a coverline!! GRRR - anyways thanks for the info - stupid FF

BFS - I kind of already assumed I was safe yesterday morning when I got my temp of 98.1....it looked all pretty! LOL

I do in fact think I because I have been dry since my initial temp rise on the 28th and my cervix has gone to hard and closed. But if I do get another low temp tomorrow I will have to assume that my body just must have tried to and didn't and I will keep a look out for the next try ((((sigh))))
post #357 of 432
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Originally Posted by annie2186 View Post
MW - thanks for the info, that is what I THOUGHT was the case............I was just kind of wondering why FF was so quick to take away my coverline. They didn't even give me crosshairs AND I put in a fake high temp for tomorrow and they didn't even give me crosshairs or a coverline!! GRRR - anyways thanks for the info - stupid FF
Do you not have the ovulation detector box under your chart? That might give you some clue as to why FF took your crosshairs away.
post #358 of 432
Ok, I had to figure out how to really link to it.

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/288d98

It's the second one down. I don't really know if this is a real af or not, though, but maybe that's because I was used to my ridiculous paragard ones.
post #359 of 432
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Annie - I hope that today's temp clears up your chart for you!

Fresh Veggie - I wonder what your next cycle is going to look like after this one... Hopefully this will be a normal cycle for you.

AFM: CD 5, boring. Not much going on at our house, I'm trying to lose the 10 lbs I put on since the start of winter and work on getting back to prepregnancy weight. Something I keep saying I'm going to do before we have baby #2.. I figure I have time I might as well try and get "ready" so that when suddenly we win the lottery I'll be ready
post #360 of 432
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Ok, I had to figure out how to really link to it.

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/288d98

It's the second one down. I don't really know if this is a real af or not, though, but maybe that's because I was used to my ridiculous paragard ones.
Depends on what you mean by "real," I guess. If I remember correctly what I read, the bleed caused by the progesterone withdrawal does restart your monthly cycle. It could be a lighter bleed than normal, if your uterine lining hadn't built up as much as normal, or it could be heavier than normal, if your body reacts to the hormones. The one time I ever had to take plan B, I puked for two days straight. It was magical. As I recall, though, I was on CBCs, and was instructed to disregard the rest of that pack, and start on the next one after a week? That was 10 years ago, though, so who knows what's changed since then.

Holy God, am I that old?
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