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post #41 of 432
I am still hoping for a great chart this month... Maybe my body will figure itself out this month cause last month wasn't fun...

Do you notice if your temps are different because you have a child with a fever sleeping next to you? Could that throw your temp off?
post #42 of 432
Pogo ~ I agree with everyone else. O was possibly on cd20 or 21 but you won't be able to confirm that with all the missing temps. I'd keep a very close eye on CF at this point and use precaution with anything other than your BIP.
post #43 of 432
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Sorry to double post, but withdrawl is what we used for years and years with no problems. I am thinking though, that since the stakes are so high (HBAC) that we may do condoms and withdrawl until after O. The hard part is I don't know if I will get regular cycles back now or go another 6 months without. BAH. DH is going to mutiny.
HBAC = Home Birth After Cesarean?
post #44 of 432
OK this spotting before my period starts crap has GOT TO STOP!

Every time I spot, I worry it is IB. Now I am mostly full flow but god, thats frustrating to have this spotting every month! I never spotted before I took BCPs and since getting off of them in October, I spot.

But the good news is that I am 100% not pregnant this cycle, which is almost a miracle. I say this because, as some ladies well remember, I had some trouble figuring out my fertile days. Luckily, I was careful the rest of the month and avoided an 'Oops'.

This week, I had a few moments of clarity as to why I am CTA. I really can't be pregnant during my externship which starts in October. I can't imagine my misery being pregnant working those 3 months in our school's kitchen and front of the house. I also need to figure out my relationship with my boy-friend. Since we recently moved in together, he has been a bit less affectionate and spends less and less time with me. He works overnights and sleeps during the day, which is fine, but those few, rare waking moments, he has been spending them on his laptop instead of with me. Then he asks me for alone time, meaning wake him up during his sleep for relations. *sighs* Not something I want to do.

So, now is the worst possible time to have another child.


*sorry this turned into a rant.*
post #45 of 432
Quick CM interpretation question:

Visually seems to be Creamy, but vaginal sensation is quite wet. Would you then categorize CM as Watery?

TIA
post #46 of 432
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Originally Posted by Sk8ermaiden View Post
Sorry to double post, but withdrawl is what we used for years and years with no problems. I am thinking though, that since the stakes are so high (HBAC) that we may do condoms and withdrawl until after O. The hard part is I don't know if I will get regular cycles back now or go another 6 months without. BAH. DH is going to mutiny.
We'll be having an HBAC as well.

Not much going on here, CD16, still waiting for O. This is technically the earliest that I've even seen O (in 35 cycles), sometime between now and CD 20 is my norm.
post #47 of 432
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Quick CM interpretation question:

Visually seems to be Creamy, but vaginal sensation is quite wet. Would you then categorize CM as Watery?

TIA
I think TCOYF says to record whichever is most fertile, CF or vag sensation. So, I'd probably record that as watery. It's better to think you are more fertile than you are than less, right?

Another HBAC here. See my sig. My 1st was cesarean. My 2nd was an induced hospital VBAC. My 3rd was a water HBAC. Course, I didn't have to worry about the timing since there was almost 13 years between ds1 and ds2.
post #48 of 432
Wow 13 years! Lots of time to heal. Nice to share the HBAC love in here.

My midwife will take me after 12 months, but I know that at least 18 is better if I'm being honest with myself.

Yes, HBAC is homebirth after cesarean.
post #49 of 432
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Wow 13 years! Lots of time to heal.
Yep, and I still had OBs telling me I couldn't have a VBAC, not to mention an induced one. I just told them I wasn't doing it any other way. What could they do? Military docs so they couldn't refuse me.
post #50 of 432
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That last time I went to see the OB (it's been awhile) we were talking about the method of birth control I was using and I explained that I'd love a type of birth control but I can't be on hormonal birth control because of depression. Instead of listening to me they gave me a script for a birth control pill and antidepressants. I threw both of them away.
Last time I went to an OB, I told her that I am Catholic and CTA. She basically laughed at me, came back with a bunch of pamplets for different BC methods and a script for plan B because "you WILL get pregnant that way". Yeah, so? I tore it up and left it on the exam table.

Still no AF. I am tired of waiting and today I have EW again. This is ridiculous. It's been 6 weeks now of EW for 3 days then dry for 3 days, and my moods have been all over the map. I just want to ovulate and get it over with!

Bettina, it sounds like you have a lot going on right now. I usually have totally normal cycles, but sometimes stress can make them weird. Hope everything evens out for you.
post #51 of 432
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Last time I went to an OB, I told her that I am Catholic and CTA. She basically laughed at me, came back with a bunch of pamplets for different BC methods and a script for plan B because "you WILL get pregnant that way". Yeah, so?
I had a similar experience with the last OB I went to for my annual exam (over 2 years ago). When I refused hormonal bc she told me I would get pg using FAM, which she had not even heard of until I mentioned it, by the way. It was funny how hostile she got toward me. It was like she didn't hear me say that I didn't mind getting pg again. I think she was so caught up in doing her usual thing and hadn't experienced someone questioning her or disagreeing with her that she didn't know how to change direction. What is it with people acting like no one should have babies? Maybe the OBs get kick backs for the amount of bc they prescribe. OTOH, don't they make thousands from maternity care? Hmmmm
post #52 of 432
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I had a similar experience with the last OB I went to for my annual exam (over 2 years ago). When I refused hormonal bc she told me I would get pg using FAM, which she had not even heard of until I mentioned it, by the way. It was funny how hostile she got toward me. It was like she didn't hear me say that I didn't mind getting pg again. I think she was so caught up in doing her usual thing and hadn't experienced someone questioning her or disagreeing with her that she didn't know how to change direction. What is it with people acting like no one should have babies? Maybe the OBs get kick backs for the amount of bc they prescribe. OTOH, don't they make thousands from maternity care? Hmmmm

I don't understand how they can be so clueless about FAM/NFP. I went to the OB last year because there were suddenly bumps on my cervix that hadn't been there before (normal apparently). Anyway, the entire visit was her repeatedly asking me why on earth was I checking my cervix and how did I know they weren't there before. Very frustrating.
post #53 of 432
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I don't understand how they can be so clueless about FAM/NFP. I went to the OB last year because there were suddenly bumps on my cervix that hadn't been there before (normal apparently). Anyway, the entire visit was her repeatedly asking me why on earth was I checking my cervix and how did I know they weren't there before. Very frustrating.
- I bet you were the only one who has ever talked to her about their cervix!!!

I didn't go back for my 6 week checkup after DD2 (which was also a VBAC - just not at home, cause I is a wuss) but after DD1 I had already started taking classes at the hospital I delivered at (creighton model) and when I told my doc that he was actually kind of versed in it........although it was pretty funny - because he asked when my last period was and I was like.......ummmmm 11 months ago? and then he asked when I was expecting my NEXT period and I was like......ummmmmm?? I have no idea, is this a trick question??
He was actually surprised to learn that I knew I was going to possibly ovulate before my first period - but of course that didn't stop him from telling a story about a woman who got pregnant 2 times before her 6 week checkup........3 births in 2 years! yikes!

To this day I still don't know what that story had to do with me............I guess he was just trying to let me know that you CAN get pregnant without getting your period? I dunno.

It was also funny, because I told him I was taking the classes at the hospital he works at and he was like - "yeah, that is because they are a Catholic hospital" and I'm like.......uhhhhh, so am I!!
post #54 of 432
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He was actually surprised to learn that I knew I was going to possibly ovulate before my first period - but of course that didn't stop him from telling a story about a woman who got pregnant 2 times before her 6 week checkup........3 births in 2 years! yikes!

To this day I still don't know what that story had to do with me............I guess he was just trying to let me know that you CAN get pregnant without getting your period? I dunno.
I get so irked that the docs don't seem to take breastfeeding into account. I didn't go to medical school so I don't know what they are taught about breastfeeding and fertility but it can't be much. I don't know if it's assumed that women won't breastfeed in a way that's necessary to keep fertility away for a while or if they are just told it doesn't work. Seems they have a lot of misinformation and it's very annoying.
post #55 of 432
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I get so irked that the docs don't seem to take breastfeeding into account. I didn't go to medical school so I don't know what they are taught about breastfeeding and fertility but it can't be much.
My friend is in medical school. The course on breastfeeding is um...about an hour long. I don't even know what they teach about fertility in relation to breastfeeding.

The same friend, when asked in a group (instead of me, the bfing mother ) what a breast pump was for, he assured the asker that such things weren't actually used. I don't know how you can go to medical school and NOT know that people actually DO use breast pumps.

My midwife didn't know how I could know that I had a double peak cycle and that my DD would be a week later than she estimated. DD was born right on MY estimated due date.
post #56 of 432
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My friend is in medical school. The course on breastfeeding is um...about an hour long. I don't even know what they teach about fertility in relation to breastfeeding.

The same friend, when asked in a group (instead of me, the bfing mother ) what a breast pump was for, he assured the asker that such things weren't actually used. I don't know how you can go to medical school and NOT know that people actually DO use breast pumps.

My midwife didn't know how I could know that I had a double peak cycle and that my DD would be a week later than she estimated. DD was born right on MY estimated due date.
Yep, and then when a breastfeeding mom is having trouble, instead of going to other breastfeeding moms, goes to a doctor who knows essentially nothing about breastfeeding and just tells her to supplement with formula. That gets back to what I said a while ago. I don't understand why people give so much power to doctors just because they have a M.D. after their names rather than getting info from who've actually btdt.
post #57 of 432
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Yep, and then when a breastfeeding mom is having trouble, instead of going to other breastfeeding moms, goes to a doctor who knows essentially nothing about breastfeeding and just tells her to supplement with formula. That gets back to what I said a while ago. I don't understand why people give so much power to doctors just because they have a M.D. after their names rather than getting info from who've actually btdt.
Don't you know, MW? Doctors are always right! Like the dev ped today who wants to put my 3yo on prozac after 30 minutes with us.

It's the only profession where you can have 5-7 years of training and then profess to know everything about everything. Can you tell I don't like them much?
post #58 of 432
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Don't you know, MW? Doctors are always right! Like the dev ped today who wants to put my 3yo on prozac after 30 minutes with us.

It's the only profession where you can have 5-7 years of training and then profess to know everything about everything. Can you tell I don't like them much?
Or you can have a pediatrician who thinks that a chronic cough lasting MORE than a year is "normal". I've finally given up and I'm making an appointment with someone new for the end of the month.

</rant

Pretty sure that O was today, obviously can't be certain until tomorrow (or a couple days after). I had a couple "gobs" of EW today, combined with some cramping and I've felt like I was melting for the past few hours (keep in mind it's about 11 degrees here). Crossing my fingers that this was it! I'm anxious to get out of the fertile time and move on with life again.
post #59 of 432
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Don't you know, MW? Doctors are always right! Like the dev ped today who wants to put my 3yo on prozac after 30 minutes with us.
Wow! A 3yo on prozac?! I can't believe any doctor with any sense would suggest that. Antidepressants are contraindicated for teens even. Why would you have a 3yo take them?
post #60 of 432
I miss you all already!

But there's no way I could be temping right now, anyway, with moving and staying in so many different places.

Still finishing up AF; seems like it has been kind of weird this time, but should be 100% done tonight.

Someone asked me about the Maca: I take 1500 mg/day, powdered, in capsules. The biggest differences I noticed last cycle were that it moved my ) day up by 9 days to CD 32, and it lengthened my LP by 1 1/2 days. PMS also seemed pretty mild, except for the pimples, but that is also due to the stress of moving and eating more sugar than I should be. I'm still taking it this cycle, and since it supposedly takes time to get into your system completely, I'm interested to see how it helps this time.
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