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post #41 of 118
Congrats _ktg_ - that is great news!!! I bet it will be nice to get that SL completely out of the way.

As far as student loans, I agree with Sarah8Jane, DR always puts them in step2 - it has been a source of debate on the mytmmo.com message boards even. However, if they are as large as a mortgage then I say move 'em too. I wouldn't be comfortable putting off retirement, etc for that long.
post #42 of 118
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sweetjasmine, oh how frustrating that your dh wants to trade in for a new car. Will he read tmmo?
Congrats ktg!

mtm, no he won't read it. he doesn't "read" books. he might read magazines, sometimes. he said he's never been a reader outside of job requirements. let me clarify, he is smart and is a project manager for a construction testing engineering firm and has to read construction drawings all the time and engineering reports but outside of that, no interest.

anyway, he has a couple of accounts he's had before we married. he's never done anything with them, they just sit there. he wants to close the accounts and put most of the money, about 2/3's of the $6k, toward paying off our car loan, then we can double up on the monthly payments to quickly pay the remainder and save for a down payment on the new car and use our current one for a trade-in while it's still in decent shape. Hopefully, this will all take place this year.

I never wanted to talk him into giving up this money since it was his before we met but I did encourage him a couple of times to think about our options. I was pleasantly surprised when he told me the other day he wanted to put them toward the car!
post #43 of 118
Thread Starter 
sweet jasmine, that's good news. Will he listen to DR on the radio? I've never heard him but that might be the sneaky way to get some of the ideas across.

I've got a case of the feb blahs. Doing good with not spending money but just feeling blah. Anyone want to post their savings tips to help motivate me?
post #44 of 118
subbing. We need to start using this method. My credit card is blocked right now because the bills on our 2ndary card were sent to the wrong address for 6 months
I am really really worried that this has messed up my credit rating as I am the breadwinner in the family & the mortgage, car loan etc. are all in my name
CC debt has been an issue for me for almost 10 years now. I keep getting ahead & falling back & am feeling very miserable at the moment as I am still stuck in a job I don't like after 9 years and feel like I can't move because we have debt and no savings.

Sigh. I will read the whole thing shortly.
post #45 of 118
I have now read through and emailed it to dp & she is on board as well. We really need to get out of this cycle. Please sign us up for Pre Step 1, thank you

As a newbie, I have a couple of questions:
-Do you agree with his recommendation to get rid of all credit cards? I find that there are some things I need them for (online purchases etc.) and yet, they are a MAJOR problem for both of us....

-Dp & I were having a heart to heart about finances last night & I had this revelation....getting out of debt & having savings is not really motivation enough in itself for us...we have tried & tried & still get sucked in by this sense of entitlement or wanting treats or what have you. I really feel like we need a VISION...more of a why do we want to do this? Where do we want to be in five years other than financially stable. For me part of that is having the freedom to do a job I love, to take some risks & be flexible with my work.

-What have people done to earn extra $$$ to pay off debt?? I work 4 days a week right now, so going up to 5 days is the obvious choice for me, but I really would miss having the time with my kids has anyone come up with any other brilliant get rich quick schemes (other than pizza delivery, lol?). We can start selling stuff on craigslist etc.....

so glad to have joined this thread
post #46 of 118
I love taxes. Well, refunds, anyway!

We *should* get ours on the 19th and finally finish off our 6 month emergency fund! Then we can officially start saving towards our future home purchase!!

We also just decided to start contributing 5% into dh's company retirement plan. It's a vanguard ROTH 401k - I had NO idea a ROTH 401k *existed*...but awesome, right?!

So yeah, his company matches 100% on the first 3%, and 50% on the next 2%...so I thought 5% would be good...pretty much free money, no?

I can't wait until it's officially official. It's going to feel goooooooood!
post #47 of 118
I'm so excited to find this thread!! We are just starting BS3 - an emergency fund. We're thinking all of our tax return money will go into this fund. No idea what that will be yet, but we are hoping to save 15k.

What specific things are you all doing to save money? We're cutting out a lot of unnecessary expenses and are cutting way back on others (still have Netflix, but now it's the lowest plan). We aren't taking a vacation this year. I'm going to look at seriously slashing our grocery budget, but need to figure out how - organics are expensive.

Our other thought was selling our house. Of course the market is horrible right now. We built it for 275k and then put in 20k in landscaping (so stupid!). Our payoff is 258k. According to one realtor, we could sell it and be able to just pay off the house and pay the Realtor fees. So we'd be starting at square 1. Hubby says that if we rent for 1k a month we'll be able to save our emergency fund and have a down payment in about 2ish years. This sounds very tempting. What should we do? Cut our losses? Or stay here for a while longer? I mean, we don't have any debt aside from our van and our house. We have life insurance, health insurance, retirement funds. We love our house and neighborhood and neighbors. I keep hoping that if we ride out the crummy market for a while longer we might be able to sell the house for a bit more and walk away with something in our pockets...but maybe I'm not thinking this through. Suggestions? Thoughts?
post #48 of 118
mtm - I've heard that staying on track in BS3 is almost more difficult than staying on track in BS2. It's almost like "Hey, look at all this money I freed up, cool!" I have no advice but just best wishes.

sparkprincess - We bought years ago but got caught up in the HEL trap and so we're about where you are - even steven if we sell. We're going to stick it out for 2 more years and then put the house on the market while we rent in a different school district. Once this house sells, we'll buy a new house in the other school district. However, we're still in BS2. If we weren't still in BS2, I think I'd be hard pressed NOT to move. If you WANT to move, then go for it but if there is no pressing reason to move then it might pay off to stick it out for 12-24 months. Since you love the house, neighborhood, and neighbors I'd probably stay. You aren't losing anything by being there, at least not IMO.

beansma - Congrats! Seeing everyone's progress in BS3 helps keep me motivated so thank you for sharing. ROTH 401ks are nice and I agree, 5% is a good start. Are you planning on doing the 15% overall to retirement per DR? Make sure you come in here and virtually jump for joy when BS3 is funded.

proudmamanow - Welcome!! It helps to have your partner on board so yay for that! I haven't gotten rid of all of our cards but kept two open plus my husband has a corporate card (his company pays it off directly, he didn't have to sign anything). I haven't used credit in over a year though so I have that controlled. I think I'll feel more comfortable getting rid of the last cards once I have that FFEF. I know that is anti-DR thinking but it is *my* comfort zone. When I travel I use my business debit card because it has a $7,500 daily spending max (no I don't have $7,500 in there heeh).

Like you, I do get sucked into that sense of entitlement every now and then. I think "We make X so why can't I spend Y on Z?" The answer is "Because you have a buttload of consumer debt." If I look at what we could be doing without these payments on BS2 the answer is "I'd be in that house in the school district I want to be in." For me, that keeps me on track. We have a 2 and a 5 year plan and each month we look at our progress towards it. My children have varying special needs so for us, *that* school district is important.

As far as extra money, I'm a freelance writer but also a student. I've picked up some extra writing gigs to throw at our snowball.

I've been eating out too much the past few days - I'm not over budget for the month but definitely ahead of the curve. I joined the home cooking challenge and then I've been dealing with some crazy health issues and quite frankly haven't felt well, at all. I need to get back…on…track…!

My DH got his final numbers on his bonus and it looks like I'll be pretty close to that 9% progress towards goal at the end of the month.

Hope everyone is doing well!
post #49 of 118
I was starting to feel blah too, but just went to myfico.com and to annualcreditreport.com and feel pretty good..

FICO is up from whenever I last checked a year ago and things are looking good!

annualcreditreport is the free one from the government (you can check once a year). myfico is free for 30 days...make sure you cancel within 30 days, or else they'll charge your credit card (you must provide one). The myfico website is really nice, they give you lots of detail and advice.
post #50 of 118
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Originally Posted by proudmamanow View Post
I have now read through and emailed it to dp & she is on board as well. We really need to get out of this cycle. Please sign us up for Pre Step 1, thank you

As a newbie, I have a couple of questions:
-Do you agree with his recommendation to get rid of all credit cards? I find that there are some things I need them for (online purchases etc.) and yet, they are a MAJOR problem for both of us....

-Dp & I were having a heart to heart about finances last night & I had this revelation....getting out of debt & having savings is not really motivation enough in itself for us...we have tried & tried & still get sucked in by this sense of entitlement or wanting treats or what have you. I really feel like we need a VISION...more of a why do we want to do this? Where do we want to be in five years other than financially stable. For me part of that is having the freedom to do a job I love, to take some risks & be flexible with my work.

-What have people done to earn extra $$$ to pay off debt?? I work 4 days a week right now, so going up to 5 days is the obvious choice for me, but I really would miss having the time with my kids has anyone come up with any other brilliant get rich quick schemes (other than pizza delivery, lol?). We can start selling stuff on craigslist etc.....

so glad to have joined this thread
Welcome!

I don't follow DR per se, so I don't know the reasons he says to cut all cards.

I closed several cards but keep two major cc's open with zero balance, or, if I need to use it in emergency/necessity, I pay it off in 1-2 months.

I know there are times I can't get a rental car without a major cc, unless they use my debit with a huge deposit AND a credit check..which I don't like..so anyways, I do keep those open.

I read/follow "Your Money or Your Life" and I love it! You might want to read it and go through the steps since it deals with your particular concern for future goals/values/motivation/lifestyle. The only part I'm not so ccertain about is his investment advice...I need to learn more and will quite possibly go another route on that (but not to that step yet!!).

Sorry, I know its mainly a DR forum, but the main steps are pretty similar between the two and its been hugely impactful for me to follow the YMOYL steps. It was tedious, but soooo worth it to set up.
post #51 of 118
I am completely DONE BS1- well the last thing we have to do is get approved for my husbands lfe insurance. He has the physical exam tonight.. We were not going to ge life insurance, but after much thought we decided he needed it.I will get some next year possibly.

BS2 Pay off all debt using the Debt Snowball

We paid $8000 onto our heloc loan this month, leaving us with a balance of 5100. We are getting there... We do have creditcard debt, but it gets paid monthly and wedon't carry a balance. otherthan that, just the mortgage!!!!
Almost done baby step 2!!
post #52 of 118
To answer the question about where to get money to pay down debt, My husband works one extra day a week sometimes, I run a daycare and try to snag a part time or drop in kid here and there.. I do online stuff like swagbucks to ear $5 or $10 gift cards for amazon, I also am interviewing to watch over an elderly man a few hours a week. I have cleaned houses before as well. I would just look through craigslist and see if there is any part time gigs you qualify for, sell whatever you can and offer weekend babysitting maybe.

If you have a talent, teach a class. I taught a couponing class in my home once...
post #53 of 118
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As a newbie, I have a couple of questions:
-Do you agree with his recommendation to get rid of all credit cards? I find that there are some things I need them for (online purchases etc.) and yet, they are a MAJOR problem for both of us....
You can get a prepaid visa or MC gift card and use it just the same OR use our debit card.

We use the extra money to plan , save and live better. Its all about planning , communicating and thinking through life rather then reacting.

Id look into getting Dave Ramsey's book or his FPU class. They are Christian ( we are not and took the class) but its not over the top. Gives you time as a couple to plan and talk about your plan. Dave goes over all life stages and planning for them NOW rather then later.
post #54 of 118

Me, too?

So, I am have been lurking around here, but never jumped in until now.

We are on BS2. We have paid off medical bills, cleaned up all lingering messes from my divorce that were on my credit report and paid off those debts, paid off credit cards (we did keep one with a low interest rate and 0 balance for car rentals, etc...). Now all that remains in our snowball to be paid is $17,000 in student loans.

It feels GREAT , doesn't it? It is hard work and most of our friends do not understand. I am the only SAHP in our group of friends, so they cannot understand our frugality sometimes, but that is ok with me!

I have aquired some housekeeping jobs (that I can do evenings, weekends, and bring my son in the backpack for) to supplement our income.
post #55 of 118
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Originally Posted by p1gg1e View Post
You can get a prepaid visa or MC gift card and use it just the same OR use our debit card.

We use the extra money to plan , save and live better. Its all about planning , communicating and thinking through life rather then reacting.

Id look into getting Dave Ramsey's book or his FPU class. They are Christian ( we are not and took the class) but its not over the top. Gives you time as a couple to plan and talk about your plan. Dave goes over all life stages and planning for them NOW rather then later.
I've read the book several times and I'm doing FPU online. Yes he is Christian - although I'm Christian I'm not practicing (in any way) and my husband is agnostic and I agree, the reference aren't over the top. DR talks about the 10% tithe but the concept of giving to those that don't tithe/attend church so it really can work for multiple faiths.
post #56 of 118
Thread Starter 
welcome proudmamanow. Try not to stress too much about what is already done. My advice is to take a deep breath, write down your bills, their due date and the amounts (minimum and total) and make a checklist so you know when everything is due and then check it off each month. You can do this Having your dh on board is great.

I agree that its a good idea to get rid of all the ccs. They really do end up getting people in trouble. That said, I kept one open personally but its a pain in the ass to get to (hidden away) so I really have to need it to bother.

What we did was make a plan, how long til we were out of bs2 and bs3 and then set up mini rewards for each step (cc or bs) we finished. Don't think 5 years ahead, think 3 months ahead, what can you do in 3 months? Can you get rid of one card forever?

I got a part time job to jumpstart our snowball and it went entirely to debt repayment. For me it was becoming a buliding superintendent in our condo. For others its babysitting, a friend of mine bakes pies, another does leather work. Do you have any hobbies you could turn into moneymakers? Could you add a day of overtime each a month then you still have time with the kids but an extra kick for the bs.
post #57 of 118
Thread Starter 
beansmama, woohoo, nine days til you start your home fund Good start to bs4 too.

welcome sparkprincess, we just slogged through bs3, we kept our snowball from our debt repayment and it took us about a year to get through it. Re your housing question, do you think things will look up in your area in the next year or two? Is the house causing stress to you? You sound like you are doing okay to me, bs3 might just take a bit longer.

MyTwoAs, you know I think that's my problem. We finished bs3 this month, got the paper started for bs4 and it just feels like nothing is happening right now. I've got to make a retirement and other stuff chart so I can see the project. thanks!


PPK, I like hearing what other people are doing and we're not just DR although it seems that's the general guidelines most of us follow so please do keep contributing! For future reference, I like the Bogle stuff for investing.

corrie43 great job finishing bs1. Look out bs2, here you come. Holy snowball last month.

welcome cparkly! No need to hide, most of us have done stupid at one time or another. You sound off to a good start with just student loans left.
post #58 of 118
I was lucky enough to get to cover for another daycare provider for her 6 week matenity leave and made an extra $4000 in that 6 weeks. We also got a 3500 inheritence from my mother in law passing.. Not the best of circumstances, but we decided that is what we should use it for...
post #59 of 118
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Originally Posted by beansmama View Post
I love taxes. Well, refunds, anyway!

We *should* get ours on the 19th and finally finish off our 6 month emergency fund! Then we can officially start saving towards our future home purchase!!

We also just decided to start contributing 5% into dh's company retirement plan. It's a vanguard ROTH 401k - I had NO idea a ROTH 401k *existed*...but awesome, right?!

So yeah, his company matches 100% on the first 3%, and 50% on the next 2%...so I thought 5% would be good...pretty much free money, no?

I can't wait until it's officially official. It's going to feel goooooooood!
Desiree - you are just rockin' it! It's so fun to see real progress in other board members. Good luck with the home downpayment savings!
post #60 of 118
BS #1
1.1 920/1000

BS #2
CC 1 - 420
CC 2 - 3300
CC 3 - 5050
Med Bill 2 - 1400
Car Loan - 12350
Medical bill 1 - Done
Signature loan - Done

BS #6
SL 1 - 11801
SL 2 - 13095
SL 3 - 64212
Home Loan - 165,324
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