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post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
I am almost 12 weeks pregnant. I tested positive for strep b at around 7 weeks. My dr. said something about not bothering to test me later, because now that I've tested positive, they will do antibiotics during labor. Is this true? Can't they just test later and see if I still test positive?

I have not talked to my dr. about this. I didn't realize what he was talking about when I was in the dr. office. I only cared that the baby had a heartbeat. My doctor is usually pretty flexible, so if there is a chance of changing his mind, I want to try.
post #2 of 15
Once you get a + test result during a pregnancy you'll be considered + for that pregnancy.

You may want to look at treatment while you are pregnant to keep the infection numbers low/under control. Gbs untreated during pregnancy can cause ptl, pprom, amniotic infections and other complications.
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
What is ptl and pprom? I only know ptl as praise the lord from my crazy religious upbringing.
post #4 of 15
Lol, when I hear ptl I think the same!

Ptl= preterm labor. Labor starting before 37 weeks. With gbs it happens because the infection irritates your uterus causing it to think "time to get the baby out of this place". Sometimes the contractions can be stopped/lessened with medications, bedrest. Sometimes they can't.

Pprom= your water breaks before 36 weeks. Prom= your water breaks before youre actually in labor. Both generally lead to birth with 72 hours. They also lead to severe infection in mom and baby.

I'm telling you this not to scareyou but because a simple round of antibiotics can prevent these complications.

My pprom (at 19 1/2 weeks) was caused by gbs that was detected during a routiene urine culture at 6 weeks. My ob at the time didn't reculture so we never knew that the gbs needed further treatment. Instead it weakened my amniotic sac to the point it broke. After the fact everone (perinatologists, ob's, midwives) agreed that it was the stupid gbs.

So, if I were back at that time, and just found out I was gbs + early in pregnancy I'd do the following..

Antibiotics.
Culture (urine and vaginal) after the antibiotics to check gbs status
probiotics after antibiotic use
a hibiclens (it's a medicated soap at the pharmacy) solution of 20 parts water to one part soap to be used externally after going poop (that's where the gbs comes from)
grapefruit seed extract daily
vit c daily
more vaginal cultures every 6-8 weeks after a - result to make sure it stays gone


During birth antibiotics or the same hibiclens solution used as an internal vaginal wash.
post #5 of 15
Why the heck would he test you so early on? That's strange. I didn't know any doc did that. Testing should be done between weeks 35 and 37. The virus only causes a problem if you have it at the time of birth.

Anyway, I would do some research on this if I were you. There are natural ways to get rid of the infection. I would also insist that he retest you in the weeks before labor. Even if you test + again, you have the right to refuse the antibiotic during labor if you chose to. I tested + for GBS in my last pregnancy and chose to get the antibiotic. I regret it, and will not be getting this time if I test +. From what I know about it, it is a fairly common virus that presents with no symptoms in the mother or unborn baby. Something like 15-40% of women test positive. And only like 1 in 2,000 babies in the US get it. There are other factors that play a part in baby catching it as well, like early or prolonged ROM, fever in labor, etc. If you have it and don't receive the antibiotics, it doesn't mean baby will be affected. 1 in 200 in that case will have symptoms. The reason they push antibiotics so strongly is because if the baby does get the virus, they can become very ill as a result. Again, I'd highly recommend looking into this before making any decisions. You certainly have plenty of time to do so. GL.
post #6 of 15
yes it means you will be GBS+ now for the whole pregnancy. I was also GBS+ at 10 weeks due to a UTI and was considered GBS+ for labor and had to have antibiotics, they never did another culture since I was already positive.

PP, I'd never heard of all that stuff coming from being GBS+, but I did have PROM with DD. My water broke, I had no contractions and 9 hours later they induced me to start labor.
post #7 of 15
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Originally Posted by WaitingForKiddos View Post
Ptl= preterm labor. Labor starting before 37 weeks. With gbs it happens because the infection irritates your uterus causing it to think "time to get the baby out of this place". Sometimes the contractions can be stopped/lessened with medications, bedrest. Sometimes they can't.

Pprom= your water breaks before 36 weeks. Prom= your water breaks before youre actually in labor. Both generally lead to birth with 72 hours. They also lead to severe infection in mom and baby.

I'm telling you this not to scareyou but because a simple round of antibiotics can prevent these complications.
I'm not quoting you here to be combative, but I'm wondering if you have any sources to back these 'facts' up? I can't seem to find anything that suggests that GBS can cause preterm labor or early rupture of membranes. However, both are listed as a risk factor in the infant getting sick from the virus. Also, I'm confused on the part I've bolded. It's worded as if you're saying that an EROM will always cause a sever infection in mom and baby. That simply is not the case. In a case where mom is + for GBS and her water breaks early, she can then chose to take the antibiotics, for she is now in the 'high risk' category.

Also, let's not forget that taking antibiotics in general is risky. Especially throughout pregnancy when it is not necessary. If taken in early pregnancy it could have a reverse effect. The mothers body could build up an immunity to the antibiotics leaving them useless in labor when they count. Personally, I would NOT take any antibiotics for this in early pregnancy, and I don't know that any doctor would recommend it either. For me, taking antibiotics during labor was risky (allergies) and definitely effected my labor and delivery in a negative way.

Here is a sight I found quickly but seems to have pretty accurate information.

And again, WaittingForKiddos, I'm no expert on this, not a doctor, and I'm certainly not trying to call anyone out. I just know it is a serious issue with risk factors on both sides and I think it is important that the correct info is presented.
post #8 of 15
I hear about them testing early quite often now. I was GBS+ my last pregnancy. I opted to do the abx. I did all the research and decided to go that route. I know many people that refuse abx and completely respect that route as well. Should you choose to go the abx route (and I really hope Dr will retest you later!), I can tell you that for me it was no big deal. 10 min dose when I got there, then I moved and walked all over and down the road I got second dose, took a bit less than 10 min. The kicker for me was they "require" a 48 hour stay of the baby after it is born. We did skirt that by having our ped sign her out the next day.

Just wanted to give you the side that IF Dr wont retest and you do go the abx route, it doesn't have to be that bad.

Good luck and I hope you dont have to mess with them!
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by matey View Post
I am almost 12 weeks pregnant. I tested positive for strep b at around 7 weeks. My dr. said something about not bothering to test me later, because now that I've tested positive, they will do antibiotics during labor. Is this true? Can't they just test later and see if I still test positive?
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I'm going to guess that you had a urine culture come back + for gbs as it would very unusual for you to have a gbs swab at 7 weeks but a urine culture is SOP for an initial OB visit.

A gbs UTI puts you at a higher risk for perinatal GBS infection and the chance of you talking an OB into retesting and classifying you as GBS- is slim.
post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 
Yes, I had a urine culture come back positive. So, I guess I will need the antibiotics. I was concerned about how much they give them. But sounds like it is just in intervals.
post #11 of 15
I wish I didnt have to get tested at all. They dont test for it in the UK unless you have had repeated UTI's in pregnancy and im pretty sure the UK doesnt have babies dying left right and center from 'strep B infection' or related issues.
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by bubbamummy View Post
I wish I didnt have to get tested at all.
You don't have to. You have the option of declining the test.
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by itsajenism View Post
You don't have to. You have the option of declining the test.

but then the birth center 'declines' to allow to birth there
post #14 of 15
I've had the GBS in urine (asymptomatic both times) issue for pregnancies #2 and #3. Both times it was caught at the routine culture around 17 weeks (my first labs). I've done tons of research, and I'm going to disagree with what some previous posters have said.

With babe #2, my colony count was around 10,000, took the abx my MW prescribed, and three weeks was retested. I had a very nasty yeast reaction--vaginal and nipples---that I treated with probiotics in those weeks. Get this: my retest numbers were OVER 100,000! Hello second round of abx, more yeast----Yuck, yuck, yuck!! After this nasty reaction, I found out that yeast creates a perfect environment for GBS to grow---irritation is a great breeding ground. I elected NOT to be retested at all during pregnancy or do more abx, took lots of probiotics, cranberry pills, vitamin C. DD was actually a week over and was fine with two rounds of abx during delivery.

When my GP heard I was treated with such low colony counts at the start, she was livid!! She absolutely thought that the abx made the situation much, much worse.

Fast forward to this pregnancy: GBS was caught again in urine around 12 weeks (over 100,000 count), and after the reading I had done about it, I asked for an immediate referral to a urologist. She concurred with what I had found in research that a urine culture of a pregnant woman is NEVER, and I repeat NEVER, an absolute indicator of a urinary tract infection, especially in the case of GBS. A truly sterile catch of urine, even with copiously wiping with the alcohol wipes, is impossible for a pregnant woman due to heavy vaginal discharge that contaminates ALL urine samples. The only true way to determine a UTI is to catherize for a urine sample (to make sure it is not contaminated with vaginal discharge).

My urologist offered to catherize for me to know for sure about where the GBS was coming from, but she said that absent of UTI symptoms (and I was), it was most likely that my body was simply just colonized--and those who are just colonized generally produce lots of antibodies to GBS, making it a non-issue for them or their babies. She said the decision was totally up to me---catherize or not. For various reasons, I elected not to be catherized and have been self-treating with probiotics, coconut oil (internal and external---the whole strep family is very susceptible to it), lots of green tea, vitamin C, and extra B vitamins. My MW is going to swab me at 37 weeks to see if I am positive then.

I've stayed UTI symptom-free and had no problems with ptl or pprom. I haven't yet decided if I'll do abx during labor if I test positive again. I'm looking at the hibiclens wash protocols because I know how terribly my body reacts to the abx.

Moral(s) of the story:

1. Get your colony count numbers if your urine is positive.
2. If you've had yeast problems before, it's highly likely that your vagina is GBS colonized and absent UTI symptoms, is probably the source of the bacteria.
3. There are abx alternatives. Ask about cranberry pills, probiotics (the Ultimate Flora brand works great for me---they have a vaginal support formula), coconut oil, and general immune support vitamins like C and D. Strongly brewed green tea (steeped for 30 minutes or more) can flush out lots of various bacteria from the whole UTI tract.
4. Be aware that if you opt for abx, the situation could explode into something 10x worse, and you may have to be on constant abx until delivery---AWFUL for the baby's health, dramatically upping risks for allergies, eczema, and some sources would say, autism spectrum risks.
5. If you're really intent on knowing the source of the GBS, get a urologist to catherize the urine for a true sterile sample.

Whew! I'm done
post #15 of 15
This is contrary to what my midwife has told me. I was swabbed at 11wks by my Peri for cervical bleeding and it came back positive. When I told my midwife about this, she wasn't worried, saying I would be re-swabbed at 36wks and they didn't count this early result towards anything.

The downside is, if I test positive, I will have to have my first round of abx at the hospital and my midwife says sometimes the homebirthers don't always make it back home in time
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