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Loveohm: The artist does sound a bit like he has a few red flags waving over his head - at least the way you describe him. I would be concerned that you don't feel you can share your emotions with him. It sounds to me like he is emotionally distant and expecting you to walk miles for him without taking a single step. I understand why you are cautious to allow him to connect with your dd. I really think you need to voice all your concerns with him and see how he reacts to them. If he freaks, then he would have eventually anyway - maybe not until you HAD introduced him to your DD and things had developed further. But now would be a better time for it kwim.
I totally get why you think I am moving fast with Manager - but the no one reason we are moving fast is that we are both VERY open about anything at all that goes on in our heads. I feel like I could tell him pretty much anything and he would give me a kind and honest response. So well from where I am standing it seems that your gut feeling is telling you something is wrong here - and probably it is telling you so because you don't feel you can trust him with your concerns and your feelings. That is a red flag to me.
Seie I think my list of questions may have given you the wrong impression. The Artist and I are very open with each other and he puts in a great deal of work and effort into our relationship (even when I have been scared and wanted to run). We share similar religious and political views, based on conversations it seems we are both in the same wave length in sexual outlook, we both value family first, we like to socialize in similar fashion - we both really like to entertain (mostly at home but also away), he works in a field I spent several years in and most importantly it seems we have kindred spirits...... so there is a natural flow of communication in many areas. But there are other areas that I am not sure what is too soon or even how I really feel before I broach the subject, if that makes sense. Honestly it was only yesterday I was able to clearly put into words that I felt insecure and that regardless of if that insecurity stems from him or my past relationship I feel it's his job to make me feel secure in this relationship.

That said, I think my dating the Artist and caring for him this deeply helped uncover that I was truly impacted by the betrayal of my ex. I made a conscious effort to heal from many things my ex did but I never acknowledged the trust issues that his affair and constant lies would have on future relationships because since then I have only dated men who liked me more than I like them...... this gave me an emotionally advantage. I knew they knew they were lucky to have me...... the Artist and I seem more on even ground which makes me feel more emotionally vulnerable. We will have to have a conversation so I can share my feelings but some of those items are truly issues from my past creeping up. In example my ex (dd's dad) and I dated for 5 years and I never met any member of my ex's family which I was 90% okay with, the Artist and I have only known each other 3 months, I have met three siblings but feel sensitive to not having met his mom yet....

I told him from the beginning that I needed to move slowly which I truly feel is best since like Holland in the past I always jumped completely in with an idea of the person vs. knowing them and them knowing me fully. A huge challenge in moving slowly is that I don't know how to move slowly or how to "date" since I never have done that I have always just been in a relationship if that makes sense. You raise a good point though Seie I do think a chat is in order I just have to wrap my mind around what really needs to be discussed with him and what I need to work on myself.

I get you moving quickly with the manager is in part because you two are very open my concern is not really the kids or your emotions but if you are still working on healing from your past or is the manager a bandaid for that hurt. Either way is fine in my book but I would urge you to heal because if you really like the manager you would not want the hurt from your ex creeping in like mine is....... and I spent 2+ years healing and thought I was good. I am not saying you are moving too fast (I used to date in similar fashion) but that for me I now better see why I personally need to take things a bit slower. Hope that makes sense.
post #42 of 101
Loveohm: It seems I got the artist a bit wrong. Sorry about that. If you feel this is someone you can trust and rely on, then maybe walking wouldn't be such a bad idea?

I can't answer your questions about Manager. I wish I could but I can't. I already know that I am not head over heels in love with him like I was with LL when we met - with LL it happened a lot faster in many ways even if we moved much more slowly. But with LL I just had that almost instant feeling like - this guy is THE ONE! It confuses me that I don't feel like that with M - but on the other hand then this guy seems to be - well all the things that I thought LL was but he wasn¨t willing to walk the mile in the end kwim. This guy actually seems like he could BE that person. I don't know. I would like there to be a way to take this slower - it would probably even have been better if I hadn't met him already, but now he is here and I can't just put him on hold. So I am moving ahead with caution, hoping this is more than just relief from pain. I do believe he has potential to be more and if I cut it off now I wont even allow that to be an option kwim. I am very aware that I have been deeply hurt - even damaged - just very recently and I am aware that could sway my approach, but am trying to keep things seperate..
post #43 of 101
Seie I don't AT ALL think you should cut off your relationship.... you seem to be happy and he seems to be a good person in your life right now. I am only asking/suggesting/reminding that you still work on your healing and self-growth as well. (((HUGS)))

M may very well be the one, he might be willing to put in the work but you have to be open and available to that. I highly suggest the Artist Way or any of Julia Cameron's books (which btw are creative/artist based not relationship based) for self growth and reflection. Cameron has been my go-to-goddess for years and her works always force me to be honest with myself but we each have our own path to clarity, healing, hope, etc.

I just don't want you to loose sight of you as being a priority in addition to M and your kids. (Hope you know I say all this with nothing but fondness and compassion... I'm not at all attacking.... just a friendly reminder to love yourself!)
post #44 of 101
I second this:

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I highly suggest the Artist Way or any of Julia Cameron's books (which btw are creative/artist based not relationship based) for self growth and reflection.
and this....

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Cameron has been my go-to-goddess for years
is adorable!!
post #45 of 101
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I second this:

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I highly suggest the Artist Way or any of Julia Cameron's books (which btw are creative/artist based not relationship based) for self growth and reflection.
I have also used her, although I still have yet to finish the book. I'm just not a BIG writing, so it is a bit more challenging for me.


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Cameron has been my go-to-goddess for years
Love that label: go-to-goddess!

Mine would probably be Debbie Ford and Thich Nhat Hahn.
post #46 of 101
Thanks Zeta & Holland it's nice to read other single mamas know about Julia Cameron and her works. I can't speak highly enough about her works and their amazing role in my life - from the time I was in high school to now as an adult.

Holland I only recently started reading the works of Thich Nhat Hahn and love him but I still have some resistence to opening myself completely to immersing myself in Zen principles because of how my family would react..... I almost feel right now that when I read something by him it needs to be confined to my own home (or the Artist house) because I'm not ready to answer potential questions of others'. Even still I do plan to read and study more.

Back to Cameron even if you don't finish the Artist Way it can still greatly impact positive change in your life. It took me three separate attempts over several years - each one starting at week one again - before I finished the Artist Way. And I think I am going to do it again soon, it helps to be in a group to complete it though..... I would suggest doing task that don't require writing if you don't like writing, I take the artist date with my daughter BUT make the morning pages a priority! I hate my handwriting, and there have been several days where I write "I hate writing morning pages" for two pages before something else magically appears on the page.
post #47 of 101
OT (Dating thread book group ) I did my work with Julia Cameron before becoming single. But her basic spiritual message was one I had to draw from *heavily* during the crisis year after my marriage failed. "Leap and the net will appear" is a strange but true spiritual principal. I could not see ground ahead of me, but each time I took a step into what felt like vacant space, there was always ground under my feet. It felt like each day was a new "leap" with its own little safety net always provided. A book that also guided me through that was Pema Chodron's When Things Fall Apart.
post #48 of 101
Wow, seems like so much is going on...

I have not read these books but they sound interesting. I'll have to see if I can pick 'em up!

I wanted to chime in about the whole "dating" thing. I've no idea how to do it, either. It's mostly always been straight to relationship status. The few times I've "dated" it was just very casual, and I knew there was no future. So to "date" someone who I could possibly see a future with is foreign to me.

I'd really like to be able to do it, too, though. It sounds very, very ideal.

I'm meeting someone tomorrow night for a drink. We have very similar tastes in books and things like that, which used to be a big part of my life (if only I had the time!) and we seem to really vibe online so far. I've decided not to name anymore people until we meet, so we'll see how that goes.

I'm tired of online dating, too, but I don't know where the heck to meet people. Oh, well.. I have a crush on one of the roller derby girls where I've been training at. She's the owner of the skate shop, and we've talked a few times and there was good energy. I'll call her Derby Dyke. Haha!
post #49 of 101
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A book that also guided me through that was Pema Chodron's When Things Fall Apart.
YES!!!!
This book is my "bible" () for hard times, or any time. I Pema.
post #50 of 101
Interesting to read people's views on dating a single parent versus someone without kids. I've been really clear in my mind I don't want more kids. Maybe someone with teens or grown kids would work for me, but younger, nope. I've been very intentional about creating this little family, and I work all day with kids. that's plenty for me. My dear friend has been confessing his love for me and envisions our families joining (he has one 5 yr old) and I have to admit I might be more open if he didn't have a child, lovely as she is...

It comes up in my conversations with Chicago Guy (yep we're still chatting) and I love that he is so conscientious about the idea of parenting/children/what his role might be in that, but ti's also so darn theoretical, he's lived alone for all his adult life. How on earth could someone like that adjust to life with kids, especially not their own? Wondering, about so many things...

On that note, I think he and i have evolved to a whole new place and I'm going to rename him Mr Potential. He sent a message this weekend after a really good talk; "I feel incredible potential for us". Let's see if that potential manifests.

Ok still catching up on every body's updates here...
post #51 of 101
mumble mama I am glad others can relate to not knowing how to "date" --- it really is new territory for some of us! Good luck with your drinks on Friday

Online dating has never quite appealed to me but since I go to an all women's college and work at home I have given some thought that I need to put myself in enviroments to meet men. I have just been sampling different settings but things that combine excerise with social prospects seem best so far...
post #52 of 101
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I still have some resistence to opening myself completely to immersing myself in Zen principles because of how my family would react
I think that is the nice thing about Buddhism and Zen principles... you don't have to completely immerse yourself, if you don't want to. Take what feels right to you, your way of life and life philosophy. Which is why I like Thich Nhat Hahn... he is not telling you to completely immerse and quite specifically tells you to take what works for you.
post #53 of 101
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I love that he is so conscientious about the idea of parenting/children/what his role might be in that, but ti's also so darn theoretical, he's lived alone for all his adult life. How on earth could someone like that adjust to life with kids, especially not their own? Wondering, about so many things..
You might be pleasantly surprised. My beloved has no children and has been living as a bachelor for some time now. He is really great with my kids. In fact, he just came my son's birthday party and my friend commented on how involved he was, how helpful he was at the party and how he obvious cares deeply & is tuned in with my kids.

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Thanks Zeta & Holland it's nice to read other single mamas know about Julia Cameron and her works.
Me too! I love what comes out of my morning pages! It is a great book for really focusing inward.
post #54 of 101
I don't think anyone really knows how to date. I think we just all do the best we can and figure our way through it. I know, for myself, the better I knew myself and the more confident I felt, the easier dating seemed to be. I also found that not taking dating seriously and really just thinking of it as an adventure and opportunity to meet some interesting people...as opposed to being a search to find 'THE ONE' really helped me enjoy it and have fun with it too.
post #55 of 101
I love how conscious this thread and forum is.

This month marks the one year anniversary of my relationship with D. We were set to move in together due to my finances, but my situation changed again for the better. So I decided to stay in my home.

It's what I said I always wanted. To keep separate homes and still feel like I had my own life. I'm not interested in marriage again. I do want a monogamous life partnership. I want to take things slow. Several years from now I can see us buying land together and building our own home (he wants to be in an eco-village or some other similar community).

I'm surprised by how short a year feels! Part of me is reeling 'how well do I really know this guy?' We're currently discussing these feelings.
post #56 of 101
Happy one year anniversary. I'm so happy for you and love how we've come to a place where we can all choose the kind of parameters for our relationships that suit us and our needs best!
post #57 of 101
Congrats, Kino! It sounds like you guys are in a really good place.

So, I met someone yesterday for drinks. Let's call him the Philosopher. It was really pretty good. He didn't look like his pictures, but in a good way. Very boyish. For years and years my constant "type" of man was lanky and boyish. Not sure why, but I find it attractive.

Anyway, we had a really nice night and good connection and it's just so nice to have a date that feels so... straightforward, now and again. I just don't know that it could, or I want it to, go anywhere.

I think I mostly enjoyed hanging out with some of the other people at the bar, as well, who came over to join us.

Long story short, he doesn't have his life together. At all. And I find that unattractive. Though he at least has passion, and that makes up for some of it. So, I don't know where that will go, but it's curious for now.
post #58 of 101
Just thought I'd chime in and answer the question of the month! Not really looking forward to Valentines day myself! It has never been a big deal, or should I say my Xh never made a big deal about it. I figure he will make some kind of attempt this year, probably grocery store flowers or something in the "to little too late" category.

Not dating anyone right now. I'm over any urge to have a relationship with my neighbour, whom upon reflecting I think may be passive aggresive like my xh. Or at the very least he lie's way to much for me!
Still emailing with mudpuppy ( I need to give him a better name!) He sent me some pics of his bathroom and kitchen renos the other day, he has great taste! Even asks my opinion on colours and stuff! The more we email the more comfortable I am getting with the idea of dating him. He asked what I was doing this weekend, so I told him I am kid free Sat evening and all day Sunday. Here's hoping he asks for a date! or my address to send flowers
Last night I put my pof profile back up and got a message from an interesting sounding guy, but he has no pic so who knows! He did describe himself though, he sounds pretty good! Tall, built, bald, green eyes. Has 2 girls 50% of the time and works as a manager in youth detention facility. He knows I have 5 kids, didn't seem freaked out! He lives almost 2 hours away though, so who knows if this will go anywhere or not, but it's someone new to talk with so thats good! I took my pof back down tonight though, a few to many offers of "company" after the kids go to bed! Gosh some men are pigs!!

I'm going to look into some of the books mentioned up thread. Always good to have a selection of books to turn when you need a boost!
post #59 of 101
Zeta I also did my work with Julia Cameron before becoming single but have been doing morning pages (and a version of the Artist date) for years now..... they have become part of my life and like MsChatsAlot so much comes out of my morning pages! I actually have LEAP AND THE NET WILL APPEAR written and taped up several places..... and I also revisit the Artist Way once every few years and each time it yields different but amazing positive changes in my life.

Muse I think it's really nice to have an idea of what you want in a partner. The Artist whom I really like does not have any children but the one time he met dd (which happened to be unplanned and he was caught off-guard) he was really engaged and sweet with her. My brother who is young and generally an evil teen is AMAZING with kids, I don't know how.... the rest of us can't talk to him but kids love him, so you just never know. I love your guys new name! Looking forward to the potential becoming reality in the future.

Holland I am still reading several Buddhist books and recently heard Thich Nhat Hahn speak in my city it was awe inspiring and you are right in your assessment of taking what works for you! Are you dating or corresponding with any new guys?


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I don't think anyone really knows how to date. I think we just all do the best we can and figure our way through it. I know, for myself, the better I knew myself and the more confident I felt, the easier dating seemed to be. I also found that not taking dating seriously and really just thinking of it as an adventure and opportunity to meet some interesting people...as opposed to being a search to find 'THE ONE' really helped me enjoy it and have fun with it too.
I do feel what you are saying is completely valid but it just does not work for me. I find it hard to date just to have fun, because I don't like dating, it's not at all fun to me..... I like being in a relationship. Parenting solo I get so little time without my daughter and I pay for almost all my child-free time so when I am away I feel it has to be worth it. I'm not looking for the one at this point but where I'm mentally/emotionally (and physically) I want him to have relationship potential and not just be some random man I will only see that one evening. If it's just a free meal - well I could have taken myself AND my dd out for less than I paid the sitter. And if I have a sitter and just want fun why not hang with my single childless girlfriends who never get to see me child-free anymore where I know I'll have a good time.

I don't really have space in my life for new friends because I don't see the friends I already have often enough, and when I see them it's almost never child-free. So what would I do with the opportunity to meet really great people AND then how do I reconcile that spending time with this new great person means I cannot afford (due to childcare) to spend that child-free time with my life long friends or on a potential date

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You might be pleasantly surprised. My beloved has no children and has been living as a bachelor for some time now. He is really great with my kids. In fact, he just came my son's birthday party and my friend commented on how involved he was, how helpful he was at the party and how he obvious cares deeply & is tuned in with my kids.
This melted my heart!
You really deserve someone who is there and adores you and your children.

Kino congratulations!!! Glad you and D and in a positive place and that you have a relationship where your lifestyle is the way you desire.

mumblemama so where did you meet this guy? When you say he does not have his life together which is unattractive is he on the path to getting it together? Is his passion part of the reason his life is not together?


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Not dating anyone right now. I'm over any urge to have a relationship with my neighbour, whom upon reflecting I think may be passive aggresive like my xh. Or at the very least he lie's way to much for me!
Still emailing with mudpuppy ( I need to give him a better name!) He sent me some pics of his bathroom and kitchen renos the other day, he has great taste! Even asks my opinion on colours and stuff! The more we email the more comfortable I am getting with the idea of dating him. He asked what I was doing this weekend, so I told him I am kid free Sat evening and all day Sunday. Here's hoping he asks for a date! or my address to send flowers
I am happy you are beginning to see your neighbor as not the best for you at this time but I do understand the ease of friendships since he is right there..... LOL! Good luck with mudpuppy it sounds like you two have opened up to eachother somewhat so the first meeting might just flow effortlessly.
post #60 of 101
Home with a feverish kid today - he is snuggling up against me now on the couch watching a dvd

Butterfly. I am starting to worry about you. havent seen you online or anything for days. Where are you? Thinking about you

Enjoying Managers everyday attention and interest - sweet texts daily, phone calls every evening - even yesterday when he was at a conference and I really didn't expect him to call Meeting up again tomorrow for our fourth date. His kids are with their mom so I can spend the night without having to sneak out in the morning - should be nice And we are ordering sushi - yep really looking forward to it.

So things are ok here. Still dealing with all the emotional LL-stuff but am kind of detaching from the whole story. I guess I am kind of just locking it away - I have been constantly grieving for several months now. I seriously wish I never met him - it wasn't worth it in the end - just screwed my head all up. Not sure if it is a healthy way to deal but I am at a point right now where I am not sure I care. I just want to have my life back and every time I think of him it messes with my head and possibly with my chance of having a good healthy relationship in the future so - well that is the status around here..
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