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post #1 of 13
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Hi -
I have a 15 month old girl w/ Defensive Sensory Processing. She was diagnosed Nov 2009. It is moderate. She was also diagnosed w/ having a sleeping disorder. Initially made great progress w/OT. Dec we went on a 7 day road trip from TX to CO. BIG MISTAKE!!! Major regression! I had feared this would happen. It is hard to tell you're 18 yo and 12 yo "sorry guys no annual snow trip because baby sister has SPD". Needless to say NEVER AGAIN!

At first I believed the regression was just from the trip, But late Dec my little was started rubbing her feet together at night. By mid Jan. it became a non-stop activity at night. She acted as though the were itching or burning. Late Jan. it progressed to her naps and when she was still for a period of time. I put a call into her Neurologist. Awaited a call back. Feb 1st she started crying inconsolable and rubbing her feet non-stop while awake. As I still awaited the call back from "a" nurse. I headed to the pediatrician out of desperation. Dr. saw no obvious reasons for the inconsolable crying and rubbing of the feet. She prescribe a steroid for a lingering chest infection and also hoped it would help any inflammation that may causing the rubbing of the feet. That night was the best sleep her achieved in my little ones life. Finally received my call back 2/2. And the Neurologist wanted to see her the next morning. Another great night w/ minimal feet rubbing. Dr. evaluated her and ordered CBC,ANA, MRI,EEG and Sleep Study. As may have guessed he thinks this a kind of Neuropathy. He believes the steroid has suppressed symptoms. (it has been 36 hours after discontinue use of steroid, foot rubbing as returned....YIKES!)

We both believe this from birth or shortly after as we look back at progression of symptoms. My question now is it possible that this neuropathy has exasperate the symptoms of SPD. She was diagnosed very young by most standards w/o having a secondary disorder/ syndrome. I am a degreed Early Childhood Educator w/ training and experience w/SPD. OT contributed my knowledge helped w/ such an early diagnosis ( personally felt I waited to long to get help as I thought I was looking to much into. Knowledge isn't also power). When she was newborn I found my self wondering if this could be SPD. Now I wonder was it the Neuropathy. Or a combination.

Somehow this post has become longer than I intended. Venting I guess. I would appreciate any thoughts or advice.

I sit here waiting for test and results.
post #2 of 13
Could the foot rubbing be due to a food allergy...or environmental allergy like whatever her socks are washed in?
post #3 of 13
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Neurologist doesn't believe so. He feels as if it is Neuro. He has it diagnosis as Encephalopathy as of now. We are waiting to see what is causing it. B12 and iron deficiency is a possibility or spinal lesions/cyst. There are several reasons. We are hoping for a deficiency as it least serious and the easiest to correct. MRI /ANA isn't scheduled until 24th. No news on what they found through the CBC. EEG is on the 12th. So hopefully we will get some answers soon. Her symptoms are returning. I just she hols on til a diagnosis.
post #4 of 13
Most of us w/kids w/SPD would say that any kind of stressor will make the symptoms of SPD worse, and personally, I can't imagine a bigger stressor to a kid w/SPD than neuropathy! And to add insult to injury, she can't really "tell" you what exactly is bothering her or how it feels, so that's even more stress.

I doubt this is causing the SPD, but it could be. I now believe anything is possible! Why couldn't it?

I truly hope you find your answers as soon as possible. In the meantime, it sounds very upsetting for your dd. Bach flower essences are very safe--some Rescue Remedy might help her to relax or calm down easier and sleep a little better. Homeopathy may also help. I do think it would be helpful to find a naturopath, DO, etc, to work w/you or recommend remedies that may help while you wait on your answers.

Best wishes!

mrsfru
post #5 of 13
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The last few days I have noticed new behaviors!!! SPD is really obvious!!! Twirling, licking items, and has starting refusing food that she use to eat. We are down to chicken nuggets, sweet potato fries, corn, grapes and oranges. Can you say I like crunchy!!! Saving grace she will drink smoothies so I try sneaking things in them. Sometimes I get busted and the cup gets thrown across the room!!!!

We are now waking every 30 min with foot rubbing and kneading. I did notice if I prop her up on a pillow tummy down she gets some comfort. She is at a 90 degree angle so it doesn't last very long as she slides down. I discovered this after observing her stand on her head kneading her feet into the mattress. Of course I am know thinking of the worst that it could be spinal. I think I am going to drive myself crazy until we get answers!
post #6 of 13
Honey, It sounds as if your family is going through so much!! god bless(or whoever you believe in) restless leg syndrome has become a common diagnosis in adult, requip is what is prescribed for them. Unbelievablely it sounds like symptoms of that! Yours dd is so young though.
The above posted idea to see a naturopath is probably a good one, flower remedies and homeopathics are all very gentle remedies to look into, dietary changes? Wheat, dairy intiolerance? What about acupressure/acupuncture? all gentle non invasive ideas to try....detoxification the above are only ideas, etc.. wish you the best and healing for you and your family!!
post #7 of 13
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RLS is the first thing I thought of! I had it when I was pregnant w/ her. Dr. did say he believed that she was dealing w/ RLS. Something is making him think it something more. He really didn't share, Now I wished I had asked. I should be talking to the nurse today(who was present during examination) and I'll see if she has anything to offer.
I think I will look into acupressure and finding a naturopath. Even if it is help w/ some relief.
She also has something going on w/ her hands( mostly the right) occasionally ( i think they are numb or tingling). She looks at them and holds them in a weird position w/ fingers spread apart. Maybe this what is concerning the Dr. even though we focusing on the feet.
Thank you all for the encouragement and suggestions.
post #8 of 13
Would epsom salt baths (magnesium) help?

Or a liquid calcium-magnesium supplement?

Both of these have helped my "kicky" restless legs, and may help you LO relax. (but of course, I'm not sure how they may be contraindicated given any meds she might be on)
post #9 of 13
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Neurologist just called in Neurontin for her. Scary stuff!!! It is an anti-convulsant medication also used to help w/ nerve pain. I would like to do something more natural, but she is so advanced in this condition I don't know if she can tolerate waiting for a natural remedy to work. At that I don't know if is one since we do not know the cause. I hate her being on such scary medication. If it wasn't for the pain, I would skip it. But I have had nerve pain and I felt like dying was the only way out. If is what she is feeling, I have to give the meds.

When I go pick up medication I'll ask pharm. about the epsom salts. It might also help the now calluses she on her big toes from rubbing!!!
post #10 of 13
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Neurologist just called in Neurontin for her. Scary stuff!!!
It can be scary stuff, esp when you think about a child. BUT I agreed to take it before for nerve pain as well, and it really did work!!! I took it for around 9-10 mos and then weaned off of it. Once we knew the cause of the pain and treated and resolved it, it was easy for me to come off of it without a problem. I know that probably doesn't ease your mind much at this point, since she is just a baby really and you don't have an official dx yet, however if this medication works for her, it may help prevent her being left neuropathy after they find the cause and treat it.

Best wishes Mama--hope it works out soon for your lo!

mrsfru
post #11 of 13
This is way out of my league, but I wanted to mention that my son who has some significant sensory issues was CON.STANT.LY rubbing our skin, pinching our skin, and pinching himself in his neck and chest and rolling the skin between his fingers. Taking him off of dairy, gluten, corn, soy, tomatoes, and a few other suspect foods has all but stopped the behavior. He was also holding his ears and rubbing the outside of them 24/7 despite numerous trips to ped/ENT saying nothing was wrong. Maybe look at taking out some of these foods to see what happens. FWIW, he tested negative to a dairy or wheat allergy but it has still definitely helped. Good luck.
post #12 of 13
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Mrsfru- Were ou drowsy at all on Neurtontin? I an afraid she may be lethargic on it. I know many anticonvulsants do.

APToddlerMama- I do want to start elimination diet w/ her but I think I need to wait as she doesn't eat do to oral aversions. She has been the same weight for nearly height months and is dropping on the growth charts. She use to be 75-95%. Now is st 25-50% both weight and height. Every calorie counts. SHe lives on Kefir, chicken nuggets, sweet potato fries, and fresh fruit. I offer new things all day everyday. I even tried the she will eat when she gets hungry approach NOPE she didn't all day.
I am pretty sure in the very least there are some food tolerances/sensitivity issues. My older DD is allergic to popcorn(severely), peanut, pea, watermelon and I suspect soy ( she took soy formula and had chronic ear infections).

I don't believe the feet rubbing is related to SPD/allergies. She does rub my skin(arm and chest) and you can tell it is sensory seeking. The behavior of rubbing the feet is totally different. It is almost like if she had a rash she couldn't stop scratching. She rubs w/ so much intensity. You can tell she is in pain. But you know anything is possible.
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by showurhorns View Post
I don't believe the feet rubbing is related to SPD/allergies. She does rub my skin(arm and chest) and you can tell it is sensory seeking. The behavior of rubbing the feet is totally different. It is almost like if she had a rash she couldn't stop scratching. She rubs w/ so much intensity. You can tell she is in pain. But you know anything is possible.
I hope you get some answers. How tough!
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