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Homesteading in Alaska?

post #1 of 10
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Can any of you currently doing this give pointers.


I am coming (possibly, will know soon) from zone 5, and obviously zone 3-ish (Anchorage) and the back and forth light/dark thing is going to be a change.



What breeds of animals do best up there? How long exactly is the "growing" season without a greenhouse?
post #2 of 10
We are not in AK, but we are next-door neighbours and this is our first year of homesteading, so we are just beginning to set up this spring. BUT we live on land with our friends who have been homesteading/farming here for 9 years and I am constantly picking their brains, so I can share a little of what I've learned if you like.

We are just above the 62nd parallel and in a mountainous area with nearly if not exactly the same flora and fauna as the areas surrounding Anchorage. Although here, like there, the terrain can be so different within a short distance. The soil composition ten minutes down the highway is very different than here and the mountain to the north provides a heat sink that keeps this little area a few degrees warmer than the land across the highway and to either side of the mountain. So our experiences with homesteading can be somewhat different from people we know just ten minutes away along the same stretch of highway, and as I understand, it is similar in AK.

Our friends have kept or presently do keep chickens, goats, horses, cows, pigs, geese and turkeys. We only have 2 geese so far.

They have a farm dog too. And of course the most common livestock here is dogs since there are so many mushers and mushing is a regional passtime, sport or hobby for many. We don't keep dogs and won't have any but for the 'farm' and as pets.

They keep the livestock in a barn that they do not muck during the second half of the summer so that in the winter, the animals stay warm on the composting manure, which packs down and does not squish around or anything that gross. But when the thaw comes, the pig area does become pretty grotesque and my dp has had to hop on one leg while yanking out a stuck boot every now and then.

The chickens stopped laying only for about three weeks and have been back at it for six weeks again, so they must keep pretty warm. They stopped laying during the deep freeze which ranged from about -35 to -45 degrees. It can be a lot colder here some winters, like -50 to -60 but that asn't happened in a while according to life-timers, but even still, this winter has been very mild, relatively.

My friends do not winter turkeys because they die in this climate without heating, but the other birds that are not for meat are wintered in the barn with the pigs (and cows, horses and goats if they have them).

They slaughtered their goat and said that they should have had a few instead of just one because he really needed other goats. He would break out of the barn all the time to hang out with the dog or follow them around the farm because he was lonely.

They don't have a cow or horse presently, but there are other homesteaders here who do have dairy and meat cows and lots of people who keep horses, or let them wander the wilderness as may be the case.... There are also a goat farm and an alpaca farm here. Sheep and rabbits also do well, but few people keep them.

Growing season is very short and variable, but with 24 hrs of sun (you'll be told that it is only 22, but it doesn't actually get dark during high summer ever. Those two hrs are like when the sun hides behind a mountain but s still lighting the sky, so it's like having teo hrs of shade, but not night or darkness at all.

Our friends work like maniacs during growing because everything grows super fast and they have to harvest until 3am quite frequently. The up side to this is that after a few years, you find that your body adjusts to this because at the other end of the year, you'll quasi-hibernate, or 'hole-up' as its called here. It just happens. Even town people find themselves up and visiting, doing things around town at all hrs of the "night" during the summer, so everyone lives this cycle.

It took me three years to get used to it, but now it just feels natural and its very invigorating after a long winter to be able to be out and about endlessly.

For produce, our friends grow nearly everything usually grown in Canada and without a greenhouse or hoops, but many do prefer to have hoops and/or greenhouses. We have the mountain here and that makes a huge difference. They grow tomatoes, beans, peas, lettuces, cruciferous veggies, berries, lambsquarters and chamomile which are both wild here, potatoes, oats, wheat, herbs, spinach (which they do keep in cold boxes actually- I forgot about those) carrots, beets, swiss chard, onions, some hard-squashes, etc... Berries and several other types of wild produce live on this land and elsewhere too. Wild rosehips are a regional favourite wild harvest. Yarrow is also very plentiful and very effective for mosquito repellent for the very short time they are around. Strawberries grow well here both wild and cultivated.

Our friends do not mono-crop and they use no synthetic anything on their farm. Everything is cyclical here, so compost happens directly in bins or through the livestock (the pigs are enjoying a diet fit for the kings of old presently as they receive our scrap bucket every second or third day filled with organic traditional food scraped from our dc's plates every day. We'll be eating a pig this year since we're feeding them so well, and that bucket of food scraps wasn't cheap, so we want to enjoy the nourishment a second time.

We are working toward self or communal sustenance, but right now we eat a lot of grocery store industrial organic and our meat comes from this farm and our butcher whose sources are other farms who free-range and pasture their livestock like here.

Overall, there are several types of lifestyles here and we tend toward a mixture of wild and domestic homestead. There are a lot of people like that here and in AK, so it isn't too hard to find like-minded people and to share resources, which is wonderful because in most parts of this country, doing this would mean a choice to live isolated from others. Here there is a community of empowered, diligent, and enthusiastic people doing it. This also keeps the regulations relatively lax and conducive to homesteading and bush-living, which in other areas has been made illegal or impossible for the regulations.

As far as I can tell, this is the sort of place that people either love or absolutely detest, and there is little in between. It's only the life-timers who have a middle ground, but here, the majority of the population is either here for some sort of gov't training and plans to return to their homes afterward or came on purpose to stay because they really love it. We have lots of people from overseas who came here to make lives and have succeeded beautifully. We came from the other side of the country, 4400kms from where we started.

There is an AK tribe and I sometimes lurk there for ideas. Many things are pretty interchangeable between there and here.
post #3 of 10
You are going to be in the same zone as Anchorage?

Last year was my first year gardening and we went to several gardening classes. There are a lot of zones in Anchorage but generally it good to start planting around Memorial Day weekend the last weekend in May first in June when leave are in full bloom on the trees. If you are up on the hillside you would need to plant later.

You need to start seeds indoors earlier for varieties that do best from seed. We started in early spring. The week before planting you should get your plants ready for being outside by putting them under the shade and bringing them into the sun for an hour or so and a time each day. Things grow best in raised garden beds of at least 8-12 inches in Alaska. Things that grow well are carrots, turnips, zuchini, lettuce, blueberries, currant, crab apples, rasberries, brocoli, beans, kale, cauliflower, kalrabi, onion, celery, parsely and potato. You can try pumkin, tomato, corn, squash and snap beans with row cloth. I didn't have much luck with tomatoes or pumkin last but other stuff grew well with the row cloth. You can bring in your soil to get ph tested for free at a few local garden centers. I definately reccomend doing that.

Things grow pretty well here. We had a very succesful garden for our first year. If you can get into Anchorage there are lots of free and cheap gardening classes that I found very helpful.
post #4 of 10
we lived in anchorage for a couple years but we didnt homestead we are military so we didnt start and we are probably going to move back(medically retired this time from the military) so I am interested in reading about other peoples stuff. Go to the blog post I know the one mama from alaska posted links to a couple alaska homesteader blogs.
post #5 of 10
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You are going to be in the same zone as Anchorage?
I'm not sure if you were asking me, so I'll answer anyway.

We're on the same parallel, but like Anchorage, we have lots of zones around here, so whether we're going to be in the same one, I don't know, obviously.

And, I think this little farm, being right up against this heat-sink of a (little) mountainside (we run the whole length of it, so nobody next to us has the same benefit), may have it's own little zone apart from the surrounding area. They can grow a lot of things here that our neighbours cannot, and they don't yet have a greenhouse, but are planning for one in the next year.

I think there are so many factors up here that it's pretty impossible to plan for what the gardening situation will be on any property until one's involved in working it. Thew great thing about this is that the various farms do different produce according to what they can grow, so there's a lot of variety for such a rugged and harsh climate. This year we're looking at either super dry soil or super wet soil and it all depends on the temps from now on. We've had lots of melts this year.

Nearly everyone is starting tomatoes indoors right now.
post #6 of 10
I miss Alaska.
post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 
Thank you everyone for the awesome info!


Alas it appears we are not going there after all.




But I am sure this post will help others!
post #8 of 10
Preggie: Where do you live? I only skimmed your post before and now I had a chance to really read it and it sounds like a cool community. I like Anchorage ok but I want a different kind of community in the future where I can do an ecovillage. That is interesting how your neighbors can grow tomatos and stuff like without a greenhouse or hoops. You need at least rowcloth in Anchorage but a lot of people really can't grow them with out a greenhouse. I assume row cloth is the same as hoops. We use pvs pipes and bend them and cover it with row cloth. We didn't get any tomatoes with row cloth last year. I wonder if I should start tomoto seeds now like people in your community. I know you need to start them earlier than everything else but I not sure when. Thanks for posting that because now I will ask and maybe start them.
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Alas it appears we are not going there after all.
post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by dmpmercury View Post
Preggie: Where do you live? I only skimmed your post before and now I had a chance to really read it and it sounds like a cool community. I like Anchorage ok but I want a different kind of community in the future where I can do an ecovillage. That is interesting how your neighbors can grow tomatos and stuff like without a greenhouse or hoops. You need at least rowcloth in Anchorage but a lot of people really can't grow them with out a greenhouse. I assume row cloth is the same as hoops. We use pvs pipes and bend them and cover it with row cloth. We didn't get any tomatoes with row cloth last year. I wonder if I should start tomoto seeds now like people in your community. I know you need to start them earlier than everything else but I not sure when. Thanks for posting that because now I will ask and maybe start them.
We call those 'hoops', but yes, they're the same thing. The heatsink behind us made the difference between -2 down the highway into town and +7 the other day!!! So, THAT'S why we can grow tomatoes on this property.

On the western and southern sides of the city, there are spots that are very fertile and that have a different sort of flora- more broad leaves and much more lush, but they have more biting insects too, but not a huge amount all summer or anything. Many people who want to farm for produce go to those spots for the soil, which is deeper to begin with and there is more mountain cover as well, so it's warmer. We have our little mountain here, but as I wrote, our neighbouring properties don't and they can't grow the produce we can here.

You could totally do an ecovillage here. There are lots of Americans here too, so immigration must not be too difficult, I'm guessing. I know that there are lots of wild people in AK too, but likely they live in more remote areas than the cities. I've been told about some really awesome self-sustaining farms there and little groups of people who work together, though I'm not sure how closely they live. Maybe you just need to get out of the city rather than emmigrating, unless that's what you want to do; it's just such a huge thing!
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