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My son has been having some random swelling/pain in his left testicle. We think he has intermittent torsion, and so far have not been able to be seen during an episode. Here is a link to more info. I took pictures during the last episode, and took them with us to the appointment with the urologist. Anyway, when the urologist went to examine him (cocky young man that he was), he started to move Evan's foreskin. I moved his hand, or Evan's penis I don't remember, and said there's not supposed to be any retraction. He said, yeah, I'm just going to look. I persisted and said, no, no retraction. He said, ok and asked if his "opening" was right at the front. I said "sure, his urinary meatus is," and he moved on.

During the physical exam I asked what he was feeling, or feeling for and he reluctantly told me. Anyway, as we asked about what else it could be and treatments, surgical entry points, etc he continued to tell me it was complicated. I pressed for info and he talked about uti's going back into the epididymis and causing pain and inflammation but not resolving so quickly and that it was likely a hernia or torsion.

He has sent us for an ultrasound and told us to go to his ER at John Hopkins in balto. if it happens again. We follow up with him in a week or so. Haven't gotten the first u/s yet because of the massive snow storm. I plan on getting a copy of the films and report myself to get a second opinion.

I guess I already know the answer, but is there any reason he needs to manipulate Evan's foreskin for this issue? Is there some valuable information under there that we could be missing?

I don't think we'll be using him ultimately. I wasn't comfortable with him, and feel like he would retract him during surgery since I'm not there to stop him.

If this does become an emergency surgical situation, what steps can I take to ensure he is not retracted during surgery? We have manipulated his foreskin together to expose just his meatus (it won't go back any further) once when he put a cheerio in there. Evan prefers to see how long his foreskin is rather than what is underneath it.

We previously had an issue with my stepmother. She was retracting him at diaper changes. This is no longer happening.

So, if you've made it this far, thank you and please post your thoughts!
post #2 of 8
Don't have too much info on this specific issue, but I'd be wary of John Hopkins. I don't know how much this translates to the emergency team in the hospital, but the university is home to some strong advocates of male circumcision.
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I guess I already know the answer, but is there any reason he needs to manipulate Evan's foreskin for this issue? Is there some valuable information under there that we could be missing?
No, absolutely not. No manipulation needed at all!

Hugs, mama! It sounds stressful. If for some emergency reason, such as surgery or such, just make sure you let the doctor/surgeon know "no retraction at all, not even a bit" and also let your ds's nurse know as well. Often the surgical nurse will put a catheter in before the surgeon even gowns/gloves up for the surgery and ask the surgical nurse (or intake nurse) to pass along the info to anyone else who might take care of your son.

The Cheerio comment made me smile! I hope everything is okay with your son and that he's on the road to recovery soon!
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Oh, if it's a teaching hospital, personally I'd say no residents or nursing students doing any procedures on my kiddo. It might be more likely for a new resident or nursing student to retract the foreskin looking around or starting a catheter, whereas an experienced Dr./RN would (hopefully) know better.
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Don't have too much info on this specific issue, but I'd be wary of John Hopkins. I don't know how much this translates to the emergency team in the hospital, but the university is home to some strong advocates of male circumcision.
Although the Bloomberg School of Public Health has been heavily involved in the African RCTs, Johns Hopkins as an institution, whether in research, medicine, or public policy, is world renowned and I would imagine you could get very good medical care there.
post #6 of 8
Unless your ds accidentally glues his foreskin to his scrotum there is no relation between the two. I would make sure that if surgery is needed in the future that every one from the Dr. to the nurses doing his care is aware that you dont want his penis messed with and that you will take legal action if needed. Talk to each one explain what you mean in detail about no retraction ie no moving it at all so that there is no doubt.
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I do not believe that there is any link between testicle pain and a UTI. And certainly the presence or absence of a foreskin. I had epidimytis once, and I am circumcised, and have had a vasectomy. I was put on antibiotics for a month but it came back immediately after I finished the medicine. After consulting a urologist, he told me that a month was far too short. The next round went for 2 months and cured it.
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I guess I already know the answer, but is there any reason he needs to manipulate Evan's foreskin for this issue? Is there some valuable information under there that we could be missing?
No, no reason to retract. In fact forcible retraction damages the sphincter that prevents bacteria from entering the urethra. Forcible retraction is a cause of UTI so please be very careful that he is not retracted by anyone.

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If this does become an emergency surgical situation, what steps can I take to ensure he is not retracted during surgery? We have manipulated his foreskin together to expose just his meatus (it won't go back any further) once when he put a cheerio in there. Evan prefers to see how long his foreskin is rather than what is underneath it.
Ask the doctor if they will use a catheter. If the answer is yes please tell them to place it by pulling the foreskin outward, not toward his body. This will avoid any accidental retraction. Also, be clear to them that they are not to pull his foreskin toward his body for any reason.
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