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cosleeping with a 2 year old and newborn

post #1 of 10
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So, I can't believe I am posting this lol.

My SO is so much less AP than me it's not even funny. Yet *I* am the one pushing for a pack n play and he insists the baby can just sleep with us. I am all for cosleeping and coslept with ds full time until about 15 months (and he still comes into bed with us sometimes).

But, I am worried about safety. There are several things I'm worried about.

1) SO is a smoker. He does not smoke around us and always goes outside to do it, but I still feel that he is increasing our dd's risk of SIDS by being a smoker and then sleeping next to her. He says he will change his shirt and brush his teeth if he's been smoking, before holding her.

2) We have a rambunctious 2 year old. Need I say more? I certainly don't think he would hurt his sister on purpose, but what about if I have to put her down to take a shower or if she's taking a nap? It makes me nervous, the idea of her just being on the bed vulnerable to whatever crazy ideas he concocts that may involve her.

3) We don't have our own home. We have two rooms that we rent in a house, therefore, sex is limited to our bedroom/bathroom. We only have a full size bed. If dd is ALWAYS in our bed, how are we ever supposed to have sex?

My thought was to buy a pack n play and keep it set up next to the bed for naps and if we ever needed a little more "space" to ourselves. We are definitely not getting a crib or bassinet or anything. But my SO keeps saying we don't need a pack n play. We are planning to nightwean dd at a year, hopefully, and put her in the room with her brother, so we will never need a crib because at that point she will go in a regular bed just like ds did. I figure they will probably sleep together for a couple years anyway. But wouldn't a pack n play be useful? Or should I just be grateful that he is so fully on board with cosleeping?
post #2 of 10
Thread Starter 
anybody???
post #3 of 10
Your concerns regarding DP's smoking are reasonable but I'd have someone brush teeth, take shower and change clothes before holding an infant child of mine. I'm too scared of what all those chemicals clinging to the hands/skin/etc. will do.

I think a cosleeper or pack and play can be great, but you may find your child wants to be closer. What about a swing near the bed the baby can lie/sleep in when you are not there with her to cuddle?
post #4 of 10
I would just get the pack-n-play. They can come in handy in lots of situations, napping being one of them. Taking showers another. Even if your DD doesn't end up sleeping in it all of the time, at least you will have it on hand if you need/want to use it.
post #5 of 10
I'd get the pack n play. The smoking is a real concern, *even if* he changes his shirt and brushes his teeth - those chemicals are being breathed out of his mouth from his lungs and they are still clinging to skin and hair, even after a shower. Changing his shirt and brushing his teeth helps, but it does not eliminate the chemicals/carcinogens.

The two year old also can't be expected to have any awareness of the baby. So that's not safe.

If you really want to cosleep with your newborn, could you have your older child sidecarred or on a mattress on the floor, and then have new baby between you and the outside of the bed? That's probably the only way I'd do it.
post #6 of 10
I would totally get a pack-n-play. They're good for more than just nighttime sleeping. You can find some for under $50. Totally worth it, IMO, irregardless of the cosleeping stuff.
post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 
Sorry I didn't clarfiy earlier that ds does not normally spend all night in bed with us. He typically crawls in during the early morning hours and sometimes he just gets up early and stays awake . So it wouldn't be all four of us in bed all night (we only have a full size bed) but my concern is if I do put dd down to go do something (take a shower, check on hot food on the stove etc) I don't want ds to be able to just go and pick her up, or start jumping on the bed and send her flying or something.

Also, does anyone have any good links I can show him about the harmful effects of smoking? It's not that he doesn't believe me, but (as with most things) he thinks I'm making it into something bigger than it has to be. We're already borderline asthma with ds in spite of my best efforts to create a healthy environment and I hate the thought of dd developing the same symptoms as a newborn.

ETA: He is a smoker but not a chain smoker....a pack of cigarettes can last him 4 or 5 days. Does that make any difference?
post #8 of 10
If you could get a mini arm's reach co-sleeper then your DD could sleep in that for naps or whenever you weren't right there. At night time, she could sleep between you and the co-sleeper (mine fit really tight against the bed but you should judge for yourself weather or not you feel this is safe) that way she would not be next to your SO. And she could sleep in the co-sleeper while you and SO have "alone time." The only drawback is babies usually grow out of them at about 5 or 6 months old.
post #9 of 10
Here is a link I found on Dr. Sears site regarding smoking and babies:
http://www.askdrsears.com/html/10/t105800.asp

Also a recent story on msnbc.com http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35318118...th-addictions/

Trust your instincts and get a pack n play or something else for your newborn to sleep in when you feel it is not safe for her to be in the bed. Also, I would try to persuade your SO to quit smoking. Good luck!
post #10 of 10
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Sorry I didn't clarfiy earlier that ds does not normally spend all night in bed with us. He typically crawls in during the early morning hours and sometimes he just gets up early and stays awake . So it wouldn't be all four of us in bed all night (we only have a full size bed) but my concern is if I do put dd down to go do something (take a shower, check on hot food on the stove etc) I don't want ds to be able to just go and pick her up, or start jumping on the bed and send her flying or something.

Also, does anyone have any good links I can show him about the harmful effects of smoking? It's not that he doesn't believe me, but (as with most things) he thinks I'm making it into something bigger than it has to be. We're already borderline asthma with ds in spite of my best efforts to create a healthy environment and I hate the thought of dd developing the same symptoms as a newborn.

ETA: He is a smoker but not a chain smoker....a pack of cigarettes can last him 4 or 5 days. Does that make any difference?
my DH is a smoker. he smokes outside. DD2 sleeps in a side careed crib next to me. DD1 slepps in her own be mostly. when she does come sleep with us she sleeps by DH or in between us. your DH smokes less than mine does. mine goes through a pack every other day. you said you would nee da crib anyway. do you have room to side car it.

http://www.freewebs.com/sidecarcrib/

this is the site that showed me how to do it.
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