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Disinfecting a sick house

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
My entire family has become a victim of the nasty virus that is going around. As soon as I have some energy today I need to disinfect. Normally I only clean with vinegar, water, baking soda, and/or a little Dr. Bronners. The germs we are facing seem like they need more of a kick in the butt than what these cleaners can offer. Am I wrong? I don't want to go buying commercial cleaners, but should I? Is there something else that will do the trick? Yuck.
post #2 of 11
Whatever the bug is, the germs will only live on hard surfaces for a day, anyway. SOME can live longer, up to a week. Most are dead in a few hours.

Also, I think vinegar is a pretty strong disinfectant. And you don't really need to KILL the germs as much as MOVE them off of whatever they are on, which you can do by just wiping stuff with soap and water.

Hydrogen peroxide comes to mind, too.

Hope you are all feeling better! Which bug did you have? Tummy or cold/flu bug? My kids just got over this upper respiratory thing that just seemed to hang on forever. Hope you all are doing well today.
post #3 of 11
I would keep using the vinegar and maybe follow by hydrogen peroxide (in a spray bottle). You may find this helpful/interesting and it may ease your mind as far as whether or not you 'need' to use commercial cleaners:

http://www.michaelandjudystouffer.co...es/vinegar.htm

hth
post #4 of 11
I'd just add a few drops of tea-tree oil to the vinegar solution. TTO is a very powerful disinfectant. But if you cannot stand its smell then you could use lavender essential oil.
post #5 of 11
You might want to change out the air filter and replace everyone's tooth brush. I do all my bed linens and towels every week with a cup of good ol' fashioned Clorox, but I know that's not everyone's preference.
post #6 of 11
Here is what I have done (I wasn't as sick as kiddos either):

• wiped all doorknobs, door frames and entire bathrooms down with straight vinegar
• laundered linens in hot water with vinegar rinse (temps over 158 degrees for 5 min will effectively kill noroviruses or 210 degrees for 1 min)
• running the bath toys through the dishwasher (if I still had a kiddo who mouthed lots of toys, I would probably run lots of the other plastic ones through, too. Actually, I might do that anyway.)
• regular deep cleaning stuff -- mopping the floors, wiping down the kitchen, etc
• be even more careful with safe food handling practices (washing hands and all hard surfaces before and after food prep), changing dish cloths several times a day, etc.

It likely is a norovirus, which means those infected are still shedding the virus for anywhere from 3 days to 2 weeks (per CDC). FWIW, this is probably the same virus that is going around the county (and Durham). Noroviruses are extremely contagious.

The CDC recommends disinfecting with bleach (even though I am not). Here is a community health handout about the dilutions of bleach to use, if you go that route. If you use bleach solutions, don't spray and then wipe (one of tons of citations); mix a fresh batch for each application and apply with a rag. Leave on for 10-20 minutes and then rinse with water.

However, noroviruses can handle fairly high concentrations of chlorine, and I am not really sure the trade offs are worth it since the kiddos are just going to keep shedding the virus. Hospitals also use a form of hydrogen peroxide to disinfect from noroviruses.

On hard surfaces, the virus lasts 12 hours; it has been found to live for 12 days on carpet. Looks like steam cleaning would be the only way to get rid of it, if that was the goal.

Transmission rates -- even with hypervigilant safety measures -- have been documented at 2.1 per infected person. Among youth without those measures, one infected person can/does infect 14 others. Here is one recent peer reviewed study of the effectiveness of enhanced hygiene to control a norovirus outbreak. Spoiler: it helps, but not enough to end the outbreak.

At least it is short lived! And, from what I understand, reinfection is rare. Immunity to that strain lasts at least several months.

For me, I guess it came down to this: I will continue to clean/deep clean and will even do so a bit more deeply than normal, but everyone infected is going to keep shedding the virus for days. Everyone in our house has already been infected, and we likely won't re-infect ourselves. Our goal at this point is to not infect anyone else, which deep cleaning while still shedding isn't going to really help.

HTH
post #7 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thank you! I do have TTO and hydrogen peroxide on hand so I will use those. I'm feeling much better now so tomorrow will be cleaning day.
post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 
Oh, hey! We were posting at the same time. Thanks for the additional info!
post #9 of 11
I use rubbing alcohol in a spray bottle when I feel like I really want to disinfect.
post #10 of 11
Thieves Oil from Young Living- I add a few drops to castile soap, and I diffuse it in the air with a diffuser. Thieves is the blend of essential oils that the thieves used to protect themselves during the plague- it kills everything- mold, viruses, bacteria,etc...
post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by herbmama3-7 View Post
I use rubbing alcohol in a spray bottle when I feel like I really want to disinfect.
Yes this. I have some in an old body spray bottle so the mist is very fine. Once every couple weeks or when we are sick, I go around and spray all the door knobs, and wipe all the light switches down. Also, I spray the front of the fridge, the handles on our cabinet doors, and any place all of us touch like the toilet flusher handle and stuff. I do regular cleaning in between with vinegar/baking soda.
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