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Two Cat issues- not eating and urine smell in house

post #1 of 9
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Hi! We have two unrelated kitty issues right now, and I thought maybe this group could offer some suggestions. I'll put them both in one post for my own convenience, if that's okay.

1. About a month ago, we relocated the cat litter from our guest room (we have a baby due in 3 weeks, and that will eventually be the space for toys, sleeping, etc...though still a while down the road). It is now in our small, unfinished basement. We installed a cat door, taught the cats to use it, and they've had no problem locating and using the litter. In fact, I think they love the access to a new space.

However, our basement doesn't have much ventilation. It's damp and cold, and now, the entire space smells like cat urine. My husband is still taking care of the litter, and he changes it once a week. A couple of days ago, we noticed the smell was making its way upstairs (I think through the heating vents). It is so gross. Our laundry is downstairs, and I'm afraid our clean clothes will start to smell like urine. As far as we can tell, they don't appear to be marking anywhere.

Does anyone have any tips/tricks/suggestions to help with the smell? If it makes a difference, we are a two-cat household. We're open to anything.


2. The second issue is that our local pet supplies place stopped carrying the cat food we get. DH did a good job reading every label on the super premium bags of food and picked what I think is a good quality product. Unfortunately, we were nearly out of the old stuff before we had to make the switch, so we couldn't do the gradual shift. (Innova to Premium Edge)

The cats are on diet food because one of them is a very big kitty. The other is a normal weight but does fine on the diet food (they're brothers and share everything). We get high protein, reduced fat food because my understanding is that it helps them feel full.

The problem is, our fat kitty seems to be eating the new stuff just fine, but his brother won't eat. It's been about 5 days since the change. DH and I noticed little kitty wouldn't eat the food, and we've been keeping a close eye on him. He seems famished. He's acting desperate for food, licking our dinner plates, following us around, meowing. It's really pathetic. Worried that he wasn't eating anything, we gave him a half a can of wet food (we never feed wet food) mixed with the new stuff, and he scarfed most of it down, but he still won't eat the dry food on its own.

This morning, I woke up to the fat cat licking a plastic bag, something he only does when the food bowl is empty and he's hungry. I checked, and the food bowl was full.

Do you think the change was just too abrupt and they'll adjust? Could something more be going on there? Any suggestions to ease this transition would be great.


Thanks for sticking around long enough to finish!
post #2 of 9
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Please help!!

Hellooooooo!? Anyone out there? I know you are because you're responding to other posts.
post #3 of 9
I'm sorry, I don't really have any advice for the food situation, other than to try other kinds of food, since kitties can be finicky as we all know!

For the litter - my mom had that issue when her cat's box was in the basement - bad enough that when she gave me some furniture that had been stored there, it still smelled after being in my garage for a few days. I had to set it in the sun and wash it to make it smell better. I would just say especially with two cats, it really needs cleaned every day without fail. You might try a different sort of litter, some smell nicer than others IMO, but most important is keeping it as clean as possible.

They also make zeolite deodorizers which work well. Ooh, and when I was looking for them I found this catbox - pricey (IMO) but maybe it would solve your issue!

HTH!
post #4 of 9
I have a suggestion that may take care of both problems: switch them to raw food if you can swing it. Since I switched my cat, her pee and poop don't have much of a smell at all. The ammonia stench she would produce while eating dry kibble used to gag me when I scooped the box. Now, unless I put my face within a foot of the box, I don't smell it at all.

We had another cat for a while that made a giant mess by peeing all over our sofa. Luckily he was raw fed as well, and while I'm sure the stuffing inside the cushions has a bit of a stain, after a quick surface cleaning it doesn't smell like pee at all.

I do think the food switch was probably too abrupt. Cats can take a very long time to get used to a change of any kind. Can you go buy small bags of a few different kinds of food until you find something they like, and then slowly start switching them to the desired food?
post #5 of 9
If your cat will eat wet food, you should feed him wet food, if you can afford it. Wet food is actually much healthier for your cat than dry food. I'm a freelance writer, and I recently interviewed several cat nutrition experts for an article on this exact topic.

Wet food contains much more protein than dry food. Dry food contains a lot of carbohydrates, which cats do not need, and which can actually cause health problems such as obesity and diabetes.

Cats also tend not to drink enough water, but wet food provides the hydration their bodies need for good health. Poor hydration can lead to urinary tract problems. When cats have urinary tract problems, they often will pee outside the litter box. One of my cats used to have chronic urinary tract infections, and once I switched him to wet food, the problem went away.

Dry cat food also contains a lot more preservatives and additives than wet food. These additives may not be good for your cat's health.

Dry food also does little to clean cats' teeth because most cats don't chew the dry food enough for it to have much effect. Besides, the health problems associated with dry food outweigh any possible dental benefits.

I don't know if this information will help, but I thought I'd mention it just in case.
post #6 of 9
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Thanks for your tips last week! Just wanted to let you know what's working so far:

Since I'm still not supposed to change the litter myself (39 wks, 1 day!), I've asked my DH to clean it out at least every other day. Idk if he's actually doing that, but the smell is getting better...at least we don't smell it upstairs. Not ready to drop $90 on a new litter box yet, but that one looked pretty nice.

As far as the food goes, I tried to switch the cats to a raw diet several years ago. They wouldn't eat that, either. And I stuck with it for a long time. Their behavior changed, they acted ravenous...I just didn't have the heart to continue. Since then, I've tried to get them interested in some of the raw food we feed our dog, and they just sniff and walk away. (Our dog loves raw.)

The rapid change in diet was not elective. I know better. The problem is, we got very low on the old food before we discovered we could no longer get it locally. We had no choice but to do the quick swap. We mixed a little, but not enough.

I did get some wet food and have been mixing it with the dry. While we don't have an unlimited budget, our pets' health is a priority, so that's a more flexible expense. If a pricier diet is what keeps them healthy, then so be it. Our holistic vet recommends the raw food diet, but she never mentioned wet vs. dry if we don't do raw. Another friend, who is also a vet, explained that they learn very little about nutrition in school. I also know that almost all large-scale animal nutrition studies have been funded by the big pet food companies (purina, science diet, etc.). I've found that it makes accurate information about what's 'best' is really hard to come by.

LeilaM- Since you just did an article on it, would you mind sharing more info? I'd be very interested to read the studies that point to wet food as the preferable source of nutrition. It makes sense to me that it would be better than dry, but I'm a research junkie. I'd be curious to know what ingredients to look for, etc. (We know what to look for in dry...)

Thanks again for your help!!
post #7 of 9
I got the information for my article from several pet nutrition experts that I interviewed. One of them was Dr. Jean Hofve. An article she wrote on the subject is posted on her website: http://www.littlebigcat.com/index.ph...needcannedfood. It provides a good overview.

A couple of books that address the issue include
- Your Cat by Elizabeth M. Hodgkins, DVM
- Dr. Pitcairn's Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs and Cats by Richard H. Pitcairn, DVM, PhD

I hope that helps! Good luck with your kitty!
post #8 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the info! I'll go check it out.
post #9 of 9
Have you taken your cat to the vet? Sometimes when a cat stops eating it has nothing to do with the food they could have an infection, such as a urinary infection that can make stop eating because they are uncomfortable.
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