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Swollen tonsils, no other symptoms, need advice?

post #1 of 14
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I feel like I'm losing my ability to draw the line between my belief that the body can heal just fine on it's own and when I need a medical professional's opinion and I need some perspective.

My 7 yo dd has large tonsils to begin with. The fp has said to send her to an ENT to get an opinion on having her tonsils removed but so far we haven't gone because the possibility of going into a hospital and having surgery would cause ALOT of trauma for her since she has harsh memories of a 3 day hospital stay when she had a UTI. This along with the fact she has no other problems with them, they make her snore and that is it. They are very large but she doesn't have reccurent strep or throat infections. She is a very healthy child. One instance last year when it was suspected strep but that is it. She had a steroid shot to reduce them as they were touching and making us all nervous, then another steroid shot later in the winter for them touching again. That is it though,no sleep apnea, no daytime tiredness, no trouble swallowing, no recurrent ear infections, she is fine and healthy. Seems they are doing their job and a couple times a winter when she is fighting something they enlarge and touch and she snores more. I am thinking of taking her to a recommended ENT in the spring to make sure I've covered all my bases but from what I have researched I think we'll come out of there with a decision being left up to us and not a nesessity.

All that to say, last week she had her second ear infection of her life, her first being in Kindergarten and lasted 2 days and went away with no antibiotics. This one was a bit more typical, exaserbated by a swimming lesson going underwater and took her out of school for all week but again, no antibiotics, we did homeopathy and pain relief and it went away.

But towards the end of the week when her ear was feeling better, her tonsils flared up after being her "normal" large during her ear infection. They are still that way, now we are doing more homeopathy for her tonsils but it's not working. She is fine other than these large tonsils, they are touching and she has a muffled sound to her voice but she has always sounded like that. For all I know she has always been this way and this is her normal but I'm worried. She doesn't have the sniffles, no sore throat, is happy and playing and no fever. But I don't know if I should take a perfectly healthy child into a nasty docs office to have them look at her, only to be once again freaked by her tonsil size and then say she needs a shot of steroids. I feel like I should have them look at her, make sure the fluid is ok in her ears as she has another swim lesson on Saturday and I don't want to start this whole thing over again.

What should I do? Like I said, this may be her normal and I've never checked as much as I have now. but them touching does bother me, what if they increase if she catches the inevitable whatever is floating around even more? What is she is like this always, and I go in and give her yet another steroid shot that reduces her immune system this time of year? I'm just torn as if I'm right not going in or being stupid? I feel like i'm losing my compas on how to judge this kind of thing as ALL my friends are the kind that run to the doc if their kid has a sniffle. Is this just her tonsi's doing their job? Fighting whatever off or what?
post #2 of 14
My daughter's tonsils got a lot smaller when we cut out the two foods she was intolerant of. With a recent EI, would you be willing to try cutting out something, maybe dairy, for a while? I saw other improvements in DD within a few days, but it took about a month for her tonsils to go down to what I think is a normal size.
post #3 of 14
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well, we have cut out milk during her ear infection, she hasn't had it in over a week. But she has had yogurt and pizza, yogurt on a daily basis because I consider that to be vital to her.

Interesting it took a month. I was thinking here I'm hoping for some immediate resolution but it might take that long. Either they are doing what they are supposed to or they are dangerous but she's functioing just fine. I don't know what.
post #4 of 14
Is the yogurt for probiotics? There are other sources, I ferment vegetables, the kids love them. If the milk protein _is_ a problem, then yogurt would be causing more problems than it's solving. If it's not, then it's not, but for my kids, it would be worse to consume yogurt than to have no source of probiotics. But I've found that homemade kimchee rocks, it's just amazing.
post #5 of 14
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well i don't think it's milk or dairy really. I give her yogurt because she will get very constipated without it and needs it for digestive health. her tonsils were this way before I found yogurt for her, so I don't think it's related. If she has too much milk however, she will get very constipated. I just don't know if I should just take her in, get a steroid shot to get them reduced and be done with it. I don't want her to get ill and to have them swell to the point she can't breathe and regret not going in. I just don't know if this is normal, ok or what it is to have them touching. I just wish they'd go down and she is still talking in that funny way, hate this.
post #6 of 14
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well, i think i made the decision to take her in on Friday AM. I have an appt with a doc she's seen before, actually gave her her second steroid shot last year and was totally freaked by the size of her tonsils but I think she will find it interesting that they are as large as they are and she isn't sick. And of course our regular doc isn't in this week but I want to get her seen and see what they say about her ears before she goes to swim this week so we dont' end up with 4 days off of school all over again.

I guess I have made a decision to get the steroid because I'm going in but i just put myself at next week, or even after the swim lesson where all of this started, and how would I feel if she got sick with something and her tonsils swelled even more. The homeopathic I have isn't working to reduce them, she's still got that nasal sound and "seems" to be having a bit more saliva than usual. So I hope I made the right decision. wish it was our normal doc but maybe i just need to err of the side of caution...

but then i think they first noticed her tonsils when she was like 3 (they were probably there before hand because before that our previous visit was at like 18 months) but in all those 4 years I'm sure they 've been this large and she was fine. I just wasn't looking like a maniac like I am now.

anyways, thanks for the advice, i'll keep you posted!
post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by girlsmamma2 View Post
well i don't think it's milk or dairy really. I give her yogurt because she will get very constipated without it and needs it for digestive health. her tonsils were this way before I found yogurt for her, so I don't think it's related. If she has too much milk however, she will get very constipated. I just don't know if I should just take her in, get a steroid shot to get them reduced and be done with it. I don't want her to get ill and to have them swell to the point she can't breathe and regret not going in. I just don't know if this is normal, ok or what it is to have them touching. I just wish they'd go down and she is still talking in that funny way, hate this.
But have you ever tried cutting out ALL dairy for at least several weeks? I have read it can take 6 weeks or more to get dairy completely out of your system (some people will even say months) I know you said she had that before she started having yogurt, but was she having some dairy then? There are lots of hidden sources. And, it might not be dairy, it might even be other allergens. I personally would try eliminating foods first, and would probably start with gluten and dairy.
post #8 of 14
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the food intolerance thing is interesting because as a baby she had BRIGHT red cheeks. Eventually they went away and one of the reasons for yogurt is that too much milk or cheese and even bananas, will really constipate her, i'm talking not being able to go to the bathroom for like 8-9 days. The yogurt keeps her going daily and I was relieved to have found it for her. Those used to be constant worries, now she goes everyday like normal a I don't even think about it anymore other than the fact she can't have as much milk as my other 3.

But my question is that last week with the ear infection, her tonsils were their normal size, and she was having less dairy then (I know it takes a while but it should have made some difference), it seems to be in response to the ear infection that they flared up.

I absolutely HATE taking a healthy kid into the docs office but I worry my worries over this will be nothing if she her tonsils try and fight something on top of already being large. I want to know what her ears look like also because I'm not very experienced with EI's so I would feel better with her going back to swimming tomorrow to know she is cleared. And I know, I KNOW, that doc will want the steroid shot.

Am I doing the right thing, say even if I refused the shot, which i am actually leaning towards getting. But I feel like what if her body is doing what it's supposed to and I am messing with it. I just don't know which way is right anymore. I will say in the past I've felt I've waited a bit too long to either realize she needed medical help, like with her uti I had no idea what that was until it was too late. And last year my kids and dh were all sick with Strep (our first encounter) but I let it drag on for a week before we sought help when most other moms would have run in first sign of fever. (I will say I was also having a baby at the time Strep hit our house so when I decided to finally go in I went into a 48 hour labor, but still).

I feel like I may investigate the food thing, but now I want her tonsils down because she goes back to school next week and mono and strep are floating around her classroom. what do you all think?
post #9 of 14
I would like to mention that I had pussy and swollen toncils twice. The first time they put me on antibiotics for two weeks... the second time I drank a LOT of fruit tea with cinnamon and honey... my tonsils went back to normal after two days! Maybe worth a try.
post #10 of 14
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strange...maybe it was the honey? I will give that a try, can't hurt certainly but having a child drink ALOT will be hard. i hope she won't go the antibiotics route, they aren't white or red, just large and pink and touching. to me, they look healthy actually, just touching.
post #11 of 14
Actually it was the mixture of honey and cinnamon. Supposed to be the miracle cure for anything.
See http://www.angelfire.com/az/sthursto...dcinnamon.html
It worked for me.
post #12 of 14
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thanks, i'll try and honey mixture. We went in this AM, doc wanted to give her oral steroids, prednisone, but i opted for the injectible because from what I've read and heard and had personal experience with prednisone is a drug you don't want to mess with. Funny how they just perscribe something without telling you anything, not a single thing, about it. I mean do people really just run out and take this stuff without one iota of research? Freaky. Then they freak when their child's face puffs up or has some other side effect.

So anyways, off my soapbox, she wrote us a script for nasonez, I also have a sample of Veramyst she gave us last year, that I can use as an immediate relief if I get in a jam so I don't always have to run in for a shot. So that will help. I have to look into Nasonex, all I know about it is the bumblebee on tV! So I opted for the shot because it was immediate, although not needed but if one shot can reduce them then great but I'd rather not put her on prednisone and mess with her immune system for a week unless I really have to.

She really thought they should come out but said we have time because she's not having chronic health problems from them.

Her ears were clear! Funny no antibiotics!!!! I was quite proud of us for avoiding them!

So, we'll see, she said the pressure change of swimming aggravated the ears but also said she didn't need anything like ear plugs this week. Kind of nervous for her to go in again without them so I dont' know. I know they will hinder her learning but I want her ears dry. But I suppose it won't change the pressure issue of going underwater.

So, what do you all think? All in all we got the shot (it was at about 10:30/11) and they still haven't reduced yet. Not sure how long that takes. I also got the scripts for the spray and oral pills. Did I do the right thing? Like I said my mamma compass is way off and I don't know what to do.
post #13 of 14
I would personally not send her back to swimming for now, until you get this cleared up.
post #14 of 14
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even if her ears are fine? Do you think her tonsils would worsen or something? They weren't swollen when she swam last, it was the week after it.
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