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9 yr old DS was not honest(Internet related)

post #1 of 6
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So let me preface this by saying my son is a ridiculously good kid, with good friends. He doesn't get into trouble really ever. He also always 'clicks' with the good kids. Really just a bunch of goody two shoes lol, and I think I sometimes take it for granted and think everything will always be PERFECT. And I know that isn't realistic.

I have never had a discipline problem before but something happened yesterday and this is how I handled it. I don't know if I handled it well. I don't know how I feel yet.

Ok we have a child's browser on our computer. My son really doesn't use the computer for much except to access the LEGO website. I told him that he could create an id on the site to play game and such. My computer is in the main room. It is not something that you can access really bad private stuff on if you know what I mean.

I told him months ago that I didn't want him posting on the message boards or 'interacting' online.

So last night we were playing games together on the site. And he had a few codes for one game. I asked where he got the codes. He said 'nowhere'. I asked again and he told me about the message board. I went to the message board and asked as calmly as possible why he went to the board and if he posted. He told me that he made 5 posts. He said that he read the rules before he posted and that the board was moderated and no bad stuff was allowed. He said a month ago he asked DH if he could LOOK at the message board for the codes, DH said yes. But he did know the rule about him not posting and he did it anyway.I think basically what happened was that once DH looked around and gave him the go ahead to look at the boards , he got the temptation to reply to a couple of posts.

The posts and threads on the site were ridiculously innocent. Not just his own posts but the other members. There is also a parent's board on the main page.I felt better about that.

At first I reacted really quietly . He was pretty upset and teary eyed. I told him that I was disappointed that he was not forthcoming about this and that he should have told me and that I was upset about his dishonesty because it is something that he did behind my back knowing I wouldn't like it.

He got pretty upset and said " I won't use the site anymore, I feel terrible. How long are you going to be disappointed in me?"

Ugh I felt rotten. I told him to give me a few minutes. I sat down and told him that I wasn't going to take the site away or the computer or punish the situation in any way and that I thought the board was ok. I told him that I didn't make up the no interacting rule to be a tyrant but that safety on-line was a really big concern for everyone , kids and adults included, and that had he asked me about posting and included me that I would have allowed it.

I told him that I wasn't angry at him and that even though I was disappointed about the hiding initially that being honest with me now made me very proud and that he should never be afraid to come to me and be honest. I said I wouldn't want someone to bother him on-line and then have him be afraid to come to me because he was afraid of getting caught. I won't write the conversation verbatim as to shorten this post, but that was the gist and it ended on a good note.

I think it's ok now. He's fine now, I'm fine. Maybe this is just a ramble. I really want to do a good job at setting a precedent for the future here. I don't want to be the lax type that is fine with whatever but I also don't want to be the parent whose kid gets so scared to tell them the truth, I'm thinking teen years that they get in the car with a friend who has been drinking for instance.

If you have an open line with your child into their teens how did you keep it open. How did you react to initial dishonesty then honesty? I feel pretty good about the content of the site in this instance. Like it really wasn't anything bad at all, but he was still initially dishonest which made me feel bad. Sigh
post #2 of 6
i think you reacted really well. you articulated that you were upset about the lying, and he seems to have absorbed that well. this probably is the time to somewhat renegotiate your rules about his internet access. kids at that age change quickly, and maybe he is now ready to be able to post and interact in a safe way online, whereas a few months ago you felt he was not.

not that you should be "rewarding" him for breaking the rules, but he did demonstrate (unfortunately in a round about way) that he's capable of being safe online, and that the places he wants to be online are safe. why not allow him to start interacting on this message board and tell him he's on probation and that as he continues to act in a safe and responsible manner, you will be open to discussing more online freedoms, as he wants to explore them?

the fact is, many of his peers are interacting in different ways online, and will be more and more as they get older. for now he's only interested in one site, but sure enough, in a few months there might be another site or activity that interests him. if the lines of communication are open already, you will be the first to hear about and see the new fads as they come down the line. i'm a grade 4 teacher and it seems like every other week there is a new game or site that all the kids are crazy for. without a doubt, the kids that have carefully monitored freedom to explore online are the ones that handle technology in the most balanced way.
post #3 of 6
I have one of these "ridiculously good" kids too. The bit of advice is it helps to have some specific thing he can do to be all done and not feel bad about it any more.

Also, while I appreciate your desire to keep him safe online, I think it would be good to consider allowing some very carefully chosen and monitored interaction in a safe format. I would ask him to convince you why this is safe and let him help establish the rules. This would also be a nice way to have this really be done. Knowing you are open to logic and reason it may convince him to come to you sooner next time.
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Also, while I appreciate your desire to keep him safe online, I think it would be good to consider allowing some very carefully chosen and monitored interaction in a safe format. I would ask him to convince you why this is safe and let him help establish the rules. This would also be a nice way to have this really be done. Knowing you are open to logic and reason it may convince him to come to you sooner next time.

This.

I would hate for him to feel bad about this. I don't think I would be bothered so much about him breaking a rule. I'd want him to be honest and forthcoming right away in the future. But, we all make bad choices though.
post #5 of 6
The best advice I can offer is to register an account of your own on any forum you intend to let him use... Make sure that, as a registered user, you can view the posts and topics created by other accounts (which means you'll be able to keep tabs on what he says to people quite easily, without even accessing his account).

I'd also recommend disabling his account's ability to send and receive private messages. Engaging in publicly viewable conversation is one thing, but I don't think any 8 year old is ready for one-on-one conversations in private with strangers.
post #6 of 6
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Thank you everyone for your insight/advice. Last night after I took a few minutes to decide how I wanted to word everything , I did tell him that it was ok if he continued to post on the boards and that I would join the site so I could ask questions once in a while on the parent's board about sets and such. I also had a brief talk with him last night about his site use. Like what was the main attraction to him for the site. He said games and reviews and news as in upcoming sets. I told him basically that 'real' social life should always take precedent over online social life. I personaly know people that in my opinion are basically addicted to facebook for instance and get caught up in 'posts' as opposed to conversations and interactions with face to face people. I think that's unhealthy.

This really doesn't seem to be a problem with him. He is homeschooled though so it is important to me that he maintains his "real'' social life with much more fervor than an on-line social life. I think any kid regardless of school can isolate themselves on line , but with him being homeschooled I want to keep a real set of eyes on this sort of online activity. I'm glad the message board is not the main attraction for him. That would be a red flag to me. From his five posts and from what he has told me , it is not and I'm glad about that.

His age prevents him from recieving and sending emails. There is an inbox feature but this is from 'bots' on the site. These are messages that you get when you complete a game or quest and earn a badge but they are mass generated messages. It's a closed system and not like real email.
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