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The dentist confirmed the cavities are healed!!

post #1 of 41
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I took my 2 yr dd to the dentist yesterday and they confirmed that her cavities are healed and that she doesn't need any filings!! I had posted about her teeth healing a while back, but it so good to hear that from a dentist!!
Edited by Koalamom - 1/20/12 at 5:09am
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I took my 2 yr dd to the dentist yesterday and they confirmed that her cavities are healed and that she doesn't need any filings!! I had posted about her teeth healing a while back, but it so good to hear that from a dentist!!
That is great! What did you guys do to make them heal?
post #3 of 41
how bad were the cavities, where were they, do you breastfeed at night-how did you heal them?

Lydia
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That is great! What did you guys do to make them heal?
I did seveeral things so I can't say if one thing did it.

1. Pascalite clay applications everyday, sometimes 2 times a day if I remember.
2. Taking Garden of Life Raw calcium supplement (this has K2 in it and I think that was key to healing)
3. Taking Green Pastures cod liver oil everyday
4. Taking extra Vit D or spending time in the sun
5. Eating lots of grass fed butter. We used Kerrygold. This is for the Vit K2
6. Eating lots of greens, dd only liked them steamed for a while, so I gave them to her with kerry gold butter all over them
7. What has also made the difference with the healing is cutting out allergens and switching to a traditional food diet, but we found that too much meat for my dd is an issue, so we eat meat sparingly.
8. Taking cell salts everyday, especially Calc Carb and Calc Fluor
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how bad were the cavities, where were they, do you breastfeed at night-how did you heal them?

Lydia
The cavities were on 2 of her canine teeth (I guess those are called eye teeth right), and they were brown pots with holes deep into the teeth. She never had issues in terestingly enough until we STOPPED breastfeeding. She breastfed until she was 2 and we never brushed her teeth until after we weaned. After we started brushing and weaned her, she developed those cavities.
post #5 of 41
Yay Mama!

A traditional diet is actually low in muscle meat, but high in the even more nutritious parts of the animal: bone broths, organ meats and animal fats. They used the entire animal, and we moderns just tend to focus on the muscle.
post #6 of 41
Thanks for the update mama. Congratulations! it is really wonderful to read about this.

My 6 year old recently came back from the dentist with his first ever cavities. They are small, but still there. The odd thing is that they are in his brand new molars, his adult molars. So I am really sad to think that his recent development of teeth (with all of our current hard work) didn't help with this.

The calcium supplement you are using is interesting. We react badly to Thorne K2. I just don't think we absorb it well. We bruise badly with it. I think we will try this instead.

I am waiting for my fclo to arrive.

We also use cell salts, although I can see that my boys are reacting a little bit to the lactose. I am just ignoring it because my pendulum says so, plus I think the benefits outweigh the negative.

I never thought of using pascalite clay that way. So is it just adding the essential minerals to the outside of the tooth? is that the point?

eta: bluebirdmama - do you and your family have metals issues? I am assuming you pendulum tested the calcium supplement right? I am sometimes wary of sea products that might contain metals. Just wondering what you think.
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Yay Mama!

A traditional diet is actually low in muscle meat, but high in the even more nutritious parts of the animal: bone broths, organ meats and animal fats. They used the entire animal, and we moderns just tend to focus on the muscle.
Come to think of it, when my dd developed the cavities, we were eating high muscle eat and lots of raw dairy from cows, and not usually cultured. That is one of the only differences in our diet. But during her healing, we cut out the raw dairy and drank lots of nettles infusions and kept using butter from kerrygold in huge amounts. As for meat, when we did eat it during her healing, we mainly ate liver or fatty meat from things like drumsticks since that is usually cheapest. We used bone broth all the time so I am not sure if that made a difference either way. Still I am a big fan of bone broth.
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Thanks for the update mama. Congratulations! it is really wonderful to read about this.

My 6 year old recently came back from the dentist with his first ever cavities. They are small, but still there. The odd thing is that they are in his brand new molars, his adult molars. So I am really sad to think that his recent development of teeth (with all of our current hard work) didn't help with this.

The calcium supplement you are using is interesting. We react badly to Thorne K2. I just don't think we absorb it well. We bruise badly with it. I think we will try this instead.
Isn't that interesting. I have been low on K2 lately since we ran out of our supply of kerrygold butter and couldn't afford more and I am bruising more lately.
I am waiting for my fclo to arrive.
This is pretty important but I feel we need more Vit D that humanly possibly to take or more especially to get our kids to take. I give my dd 2000 iu's of D3 in addition to FCLO, some days double that. Interesting to know that when my dd developed cavities, we were not taking Vit d3 and only regular CLO in small amounts.
We also use cell salts, although I can see that my boys are reacting a little bit to the lactose. I am just ignoring it because my pendulum says so, plus I think the benefits outweigh the negative.
My kids have an issue both with dairy and sugar, so I am not going to run around the internet to find a a Sucrose cell salt. We are seeing good with the cell salts and I am not sure how they are with the lactose in smal amounts. I think it is worth it.
I never thought of using pascalite clay that way. So is it just adding the essential minerals to the outside of the tooth? is that the point?
I first learned about this from Panserbjorne and she had cavities and healed them with cell salts and pascalite clay applications. I brush with it and them apply it to the tooth afterward. Tastes like nothing. I try to do it twice a day but half the timer I forget and only apply it at night.
eta: bluebirdmama - do you and your family have metals issues? I am assuming you pendulum tested the calcium supplement right? I am sometimes wary of sea products that might contain metals. Just wondering what you think.
I am assuming we have metal issues and treating them as if we do. I just haven't had the dough to get officially tested. Most of our protocols are for dealing with metals. And lyme which I have is most always connected with metals.
I did pendulum test that we needed that calcium supplement and was cautious of metals, but it came out good. I did test coral calcium and that was a big NO for us because of the metals. I have recently heard of supplements like garden of life as ones to stay away from since they formulate it from lots of sals, but I tested it and it came out fine for us. The Garden Of Life multi called Vitamin Code tested really bad because of sals, but the calcium is fine and I also take their raw iron, and I feel so amazing from it especially after loosing alot of blood after birthing my baby (sorry if TMI). My energy returned quickly after taking the Raw Iron sup.

And to confirm my testing, I did see a pendulum tester who does so for a living and confirmed just what I have been taking. So I am not worried about the calcium. It seems to be helping. And My ds has oxalate issues and I can eat spinach as long as I take calcium with it and the Raw Calcium is the one that I take. Sure works for him.

I really think that my dd's teeth issues are connected with her leaky gut. We are working on lots of gut healing and I hope that is the turning point with having to excess in getting nutrients into her.
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thanks Bluebirdmama - I always appreciate your feedback.

Isn't it interesting that we bruise when we take Thorne K2, not when we are missing it. I think it is just not right for our bodies.

I have good news. At around 8 months, my youngest bit a rock and a sliver of tooth peeled off his front tooth. He is now 3.5. Through the years, his tooth has gotten brownish, but at times better, and when we were really careful about brushing it lightened up. I knew he was experiencing decay, but it was never terrible. I always felt worried about it. You could see the indent where the sliver was. A couple of months ago we started using lactose based cell salts, on and off. I picked up a again a couple of weeks ago. This morning I looked at his tooth and I couldn't find the sliver/indent. I thought it might have had a build up of plaque. I took my finger and tried to scrape it off. Low and behold, it is healthy tooth! he healed it. I am so happy and shocked. I've worked so hard on my boys health, and so often I don't see any positive results, so this means a lot to me.

The problem is that they are both reacting to the lactose, but for me the positives outweigh the negatives. I am going to focus on Pharmex probiotics for this, right now HCL. When they have a good grounding of them. I will focus on the probiotics that help with dairy and gluten processing. I am hoping this will help them with lactose. Does that sound plausible Jane?

I could ask my pendulum, but I don't always get a response for future plans.
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And My ds has oxalate issues and I can eat spinach as long as I take calcium with it and the Raw Calcium is the one that I take. Sure works for him.
I thought that high calcium in soft tissues/blood is the reason for reacting to oxalates. Do I have that wrong? It's been a while since I read the Vitamin K Yahoo group stuff.
post #10 of 41
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This morning I looked at his tooth and I couldn't find the sliver/indent. I thought it might have had a build up of plaque. I took my finger and tried to scrape it off. Low and behold, it is healthy tooth! he healed it. I am so happy and shocked. I've worked so hard on my boys health, and so often I don't see any positive results, so this means a lot to me.
That's so exciting!!!

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The problem is that they are both reacting to the lactose, but for me the positives outweigh the negatives. I am going to focus on Pharmex probiotics for this, right now HCL. When they have a good grounding of them. I will focus on the probiotics that help with dairy and gluten processing. I am hoping this will help them with lactose. Does that sound plausible Jane?
Yes, I always believed that lactose intolerance can be just a symptom. It means the gut is reacting to something and not necessarily just the dairy. The lactase enzymes are produced at the very tip of the intestinal villi. That is the first to be "mowed down" by inflammation.
post #11 of 41
And if you want to reduce the bloating and such you could give with a lactase enzyme supplement such as Lactaid or other companies make them too.
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I thought that high calcium in soft tissues/blood is the reason for reacting to oxalates. Do I have that wrong? It's been a while since I read the Vitamin K Yahoo group stuff.
http://www.mothering.com/discussions...light=oxalates
Here is a recent thread about oxalates and where I learned about oxalates using up calcium etc...
post #13 of 41
Congrats! Thanks for the inspiring story.
post #14 of 41
Very inspiring, thanks for sharing. We did all of those except the clay and cell salts. Perhaps I will try that and see if it helps. We got no improvement with the other things.
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Originally Posted by bluebirdmama1 View Post
I did seveeral things so I can't say if one thing did it.

1. Pascalite clay applications everyday, sometimes 2 times a day if I remember.
2. Taking Garden of Life Raw calcium supplement (this has K2 in it and I think that was key to healing)
3. Taking Green Pastures cod liver oil everyday
4. Taking extra Vit D or spending time in the sun
5. Eating lots of grass fed butter. We used Kerrygold. This is for the Vit K2
6. Eating lots of greens, dd only liked them steamed for a while, so I gave them to her with kerry gold butter all over them
7. What has also made the difference with the healing is cutting out allergens and switching to a traditional food diet, but we found that too much meat for my dd is an issue, so we eat meat sparingly.
8. Taking cell salts everyday, especially Calc Carb and Calc Fluor

The cavities were on 2 of her canine teeth (I guess those are called eye teeth right), and they were brown pots with holes deep into the teeth. She never had issues in terestingly enough until we STOPPED breastfeeding. She breastfed until she was 2 and we never brushed her teeth until after we weaned. After we started brushing and weaned her, she developed those cavities.
how did you know too much meat was an issue? just curious.
post #16 of 41
Where did you purchase your kerry gold butter?
post #17 of 41
kerry gold is cheapest at trader joes, 2.69/8oz.
post #18 of 41
Is this the calcium you gave her:?
http://www.vitacost.com/Garden-of-Li...Vegan-Capsules

How many did you give her a day?

Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michelle
post #19 of 41
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Very inspiring, thanks for sharing. We did all of those except the clay and cell salts. Perhaps I will try that and see if it helps. We got no improvement with the other things.
One possibility, I am supplementing a lot of nutrients for my kids, in addition to a fairly good dairy-free diet, because we've got some long-term health stresses going on. I mean--a mineral supp with cal & mag and a variety of other minerals, cod liver oil, and Thorne's K2 supp, plus various other vitamins and minerals more specifically for our specific health issues. I can't know of course, but I think that's been a big part of us avoiding cavities--I really think one or both of the kids would've been frequent visitors to the dentist otherwise.

So if it's possible that you've had longer-term health stresses, of whatever sort, it's something to consider.
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Is this the calcium you gave her:?
http://www.vitacost.com/Garden-of-Li...Vegan-Capsules

How many did you give her a day?

Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michelle
I am wondering the same thing. As it says it is Capsules and not recommended for children and adults are too take 5 a day!

Also there is not a trader Joes up here in Northern Vermont
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