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post #21 of 88
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Originally Posted by cyndalnronny View Post
actually its not as rare as you think to miss twins. I have read a few things online and seen on tv and my good friend is an example she had twins and didnt even know it untill the last tri. because one baby was hiding behind the other.
Then why don't you go to one of those public US places and have it checked out? I'm not sure anyone here can answer it for you without seeing in your belly. LOL.
post #22 of 88
I think it's fun to wonder if there are two in there - I have to say that both I and my midwives have wondered for me due to measurements, etc. But there has always been just one healthy baby!! At 18 weeks after an u/s I would personally have my fears put to rest, but I would agree that if you can't help your mind from obsessing over it, go to a private U/S place so that you can have peace of mind.
post #23 of 88
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I cant afford to go to another place to get checked I have medicaid and I only get one unless it is medically nessiary for me to have another one thats why I worry about one hiding behind the other because this baby is one active baby I feel him on one side and then the other right afterwards. My two girls the doctor I had had a us in the room the whole preg and she couldnt find out what they were until 2 weeks before I had them and that why I think well maybe they can hide if they are sneaky. Just because they are babys doesnt mean they arent smart. Everyone thinks its very very very rare that that would happen but actually it is not that uncommon if you do research you kinda learn that it is possible and that recently more women are having twins these days.
post #24 of 88
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Originally Posted by cyndalnronny View Post
this baby is one active baby I feel him on one side and then the other right afterwards.
The story of my life right now - I feel like I am gestating an octopus. Either that or someone has wound her up like a top in there and she is just spinning merrily for 3/4 of the day.

Seriously, I get kicks and head bumps everywhere - my cervix, ribs, hip bones, sides - sometimes within minutes of each other. Now that I am a bit further along, the crazy movements I was feeling at 18 weeks make more sense- she is just one active baby that is a mover and a shaker extraordinaire! Now that she is getting bigger, I can feel her whole body rolling and shifting around and it is unreal.

This is baby #4 for me and I have never experienced anything like it before! For a while, I thought there must be twins in there too because of how active she was (and fraternal twins run on my mother's side - my younger brothers are fraternal twins and she has aunts that are fraternal twins as well!) Now that she is bigger, I just know that she is one crazy active baby.
post #25 of 88
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Originally Posted by cyndalnronny View Post
recently more women are having twins these days.
The overall increased rate of twinning is largely driven by two factors: (1) delayed maternal age - older women statistically have a higher chance of conceiving twins and (2) increased use of fertility drugs. If those two things are factored out of current data trends, the rate of natural twinning across the years is actually fairly constant.
post #26 of 88
Well, I've been an L&D nurse now for over a dozen years, and I stand by my comment that "surprise" twins do not happen all that often. Sure, an early scan might miss one, but it is EXCEPTIONALLY rare for twins to not be diagnosed by the midpoint anomaly scan, much less beyond. The only ones I've ever heard of getting to the third trimester or even labor before discovering the second baby were those women who had little to no prenatal care via the medical community during their pregnancy.

Could you be one of those rare women? Sure, I guess it's possible, but that doesn't mean finding a twin at this point is common in the slightest; it's not.
post #27 of 88
OP- I don't mean to sound rude, but I guess I'm a little confused as to why your so worried about this? It doesn't seem to me that your chances of having twins are increased at all. I can't find anywhere if you've answered how high your fundus is measuring. If it's measuring on track it would be even more rare (if not simply impossible) for you to be carrying twins. Gaining a little more weight this time around could easily be because this is your third. It could also just be because our bodies react differently to each pregnancy. One pregnancy won't mimic the other even in the same woman. The concensus here seems to be that everyone is telling you they don't think it is twins based on the information you've provided. Can we all be wrong? Of course. But again, it's just highly unlikely.

If the concern is worry, I can understand being a little nervous about it. But realistically you are only 18 weeks. If you plan on continuing regular prenatal care throughout your pregnancy, the chances of missing a twin go down even more. If your measuring 47 weeks when your only 37 your doctor will probably do another scan that would be covered by your insurance. I hate to say "just trust in your doctor" for most things, but in this case, there really is nothing left for you to do except to relax a bit and have faith that there is only one healthy baby in there.

From your posts it sounds to me like maybe your not scared about twins but maybe hoping for them? In that case, there is really never anything you can do short of fertility treatments to try for twins. Hoping won't make it so, and worrying won't make it go away if it is to be.
post #28 of 88
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Originally Posted by cyndalnronny View Post
if you do research you kinda learn that it is possible and that recently more women are having twins these days.
The increasing rate of twins is caused by the increase of women having fertility treatments...not a natural anomaly.

Have you mentioned anything to your doctor about the possibility of twins?

I have 3 girls, this is my first boy...this pregnancy has been different from the other 3 all along, from everything to how/when I had morning sickness, to cravings, to weight gain, to how I'm carrying.

Women tend to get larger with subsequent pregnancies, the abdominal muscles have already been stretched, so give much more easily. "Only" being 22 doesn't mean much...you're still older than you were with your first and second, and every year we get older (even if it's still relatively young), our bodies change and respond to things like pregnancy differently than they have in the past.
post #29 of 88
Mama! Every pregnancy is so very different! I'm also on my third, and things really feel different this time around. I understand worrying (and hoping!) that there might be two! There other other indicators of twins that I'm sure your provider will be watching for like a very high fundus, an extra hearbeat via doppler, palpating extra suspicious parts, LOL! If there are indications of a second, your provider can probably send you for a second, covered ultrasound. I know it's hard to relax and not focus on this sort of thing, but really, time will probably tell! Good luck!
post #30 of 88
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I'm now 22 wks tomorrow I had the ultrasound at 18 wks. When I say one side then the other i mean 1 sec in between kicks and last night i felt a kick on the bladder and then a kick in the ribs again 1 sec later not a min or couple of mins but i say 1 sec i mean 1 sec I counted 1 mississippi and i didnt get throught mississsippi before the second kick. And my girls were exactly the same i gained the same amount of weight i was just as moody. The morning sickness was the same. No heartburn with either. I didnt really start feeling them until like 28 wks and thats when they started getting it to where I can see the kicks I started to be able to see kicks last week. at 21 wks. I have gained twice as much weight and I dont know any levels of whatever the fungus is. I dont even know what that is. I have never been told levels of anything. I just know that I only get one us with my medicaid and i cant get another unless i need it. the doctor told me i have gained too much weight already and i even told her i never changed my diet and i dont eat more than usual. She told me I still have to change my diet then because i need to not gain anymore right now. is 21 pounds to much because i gained only 25 total with both my girls and this is really my 4th preg. I lost my first. and I didnt even gain weight at all before I lost the baby then when I lost the baby at 13 wks. At 13 wks this time i had gained 10 pounds. The doctor said because of my history with pregs that i should have only gained 25 pounds the whole time. Because i gained so much she changed my diet and I have to exercise or stay in shape like she said. If I exercise it might send me into labor early wont it I never make it past 34 and a half wks. Im just confused. When the doctor told me I have gained to much and then someone said it could be twins and I have thought it could be but i dont know any of my levels to anything I have never been told with any of my doctors.
post #31 of 88
If your doctor is recommending exercise, I can't imagine it would send you into early labor. What makes you think that would happen? Exercise tends to be good for most women in pregnancy.

EVERY pregnancy is different. Every.single.one. I was pg 2.5 years ago with my son and this pg is TOTALLY different. Weight gain, cravings, moods, m/s, everything...just because your first two was similar in no way means this third one can't be a totally different thing all together.

Your fundus is the length from the top of your pelvis to the top of your uterus. Does your Dr. get out a measuring tape on your belly at visits? If so, that is measuring your fundus. If its measuring particularly high, it can mean twins or a very big baby.

Personally, I wouldn't worry. I'd make sure I'm not eating too much sugar or processed foods (regardless of what your body "normally" can handle) and I'd take a walk every day.

Good luck!
post #32 of 88
Thread Starter 
The doctor has never measured my stomache. Just by the weight gain she is telling me I have gained to much and the reason why i say it might just send me in early labor because i cant carry past 34 and a half weeks and with my hip having pins in it and if i am walking to much it will cause stress on it and too much stress can send people into labor ( well bodily stressed as well as emotional). I just started going to the doctor in jan. because medicaid messed up and i couldnt get into the doctor and the health department was messing around and not helping me it took me until I was 18 weeks to get to the doctor. I got a us and then listened to the heart beat one time (which they didnt move the thing around on that they hit the heartbeat first shot). Plus i gained 10 pounds in 9 days is that normal? I gained 10 pounds by the time I was 14 wks then didnt gain anything for 3 wks then gained 10 pounds in 9 days and then didnt gain anything for 3 wks. Can anyone explain that?
post #33 of 88
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I gained 10 pounds by the time I was 14 wks then didnt gain anything for 3 wks then gained 10 pounds in 9 days and then didnt gain anything for 3 wks. Can anyone explain that?
I can't explain it, but neither would twins. Twin weight gain isn't crazily sporadic it's just generally more than singleton weight gain. Is it possible there's something wrong with your scales? I had a set act like that and the inner wheel turned out to be warped (water damage due to being in the steamy bathroom for years). So it would "stick" at certain weights but not at others.

Your fundus is the top of your uterus. To find it lie on your back and feel where you feel/see the bulge of baby. If you feel the highest point you feel kicks that's probably a good start. If you press in you should be able to distinguish between the smooth firm "bubble" of uterus and the squishyness of intestines above it. Just now i would expect your fundus to be around 2-3fingers-widths above your bellybutton.
post #34 of 88
Sudden weight gain like that is not caused by twins (as GoBecGo said, twins gain on a steady curve just like singletons), but PIH or preeclamsia is associated with rapid weight gain due to water retention. Your doctor should be checking your urine and blood pressure, maybe liver labs.

Back to the original question, you wanted to know how to tell if you were having twins. Really, the only way to KNOW you are having twins is to get an ultrasound (or X-ray, I guess) that shows you two babies or to deliver the two babies. Everything else is pure speculation on our parts and yours.
post #35 of 88
Hang in there mama! It sounds like this pregnancy is very different for you and you aren't getting the reassurance you need from your OB. I know you are on medicaid, but is there another OB in your area you could transfer care to? It really sounds like your OB isn't listening to your concerns. It always helped me to go in with a list of questions. Maybe at your next appointment you could ask the OB to measure your fundal height and palpate your abdomen, just to see if you are measuring big for dates, or if there are any extra limbs around, LOL! Pregnancy is such an uncertain time, and you seem to have questions that aren't getting answered by your OB, and you sound like you are feeling very uneasy with things as they stand now. I hope you can get some answers, and feel more confident about your care and the OB's recomendations moving forward!
post #36 of 88
Thread Starter 
I'm going to go to the doctor on the 18th I think its in my phone but when I go I am going to ask her. There are others around but I am picky I don't want a male and its hard to find a female doc. I just feel more comfortable that way. The scales are the doctors and the health department. So that would mean there scales were wrong. I get my bp checked every time so does my urine too. I have only been to see the doctor 3 times so far. When I go back I'm going to write these questions to ask down and ask her.
post #37 of 88
Have you had your sugars checked? GD can cause rapid weight gain and make you feel pretty tired. That said, I found that my second pregnancy was very different than my first. I was MUCH more tired, my physical symptoms were completely different...it was just a whole different ballgame when I was already taking care of an active child while pregnant as opposed to the first time, when I could take it easy (well, easier).
post #38 of 88
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Originally Posted by cyndalnronny View Post
I cant afford to go to another place to get checked I have medicaid and I only get one unless it is medically nessiary for me to have another one thats why I worry about one hiding behind the other because this baby is one active baby I feel him on one side and then the other right afterwards. My two girls the doctor I had had a us in the room the whole preg and she couldnt find out what they were until 2 weeks before I had them and that why I think well maybe they can hide if they are sneaky. Just because they are babys doesnt mean they arent smart. Everyone thinks its very very very rare that that would happen but actually it is not that uncommon if you do research you kinda learn that it is possible and that recently more women are having twins these days.
It's not impossible, but it's certainly abnormal to miss a second child at 18 weeks.

Can you see if a free-standing place will do a quick scan for free? I got a free scan during their "come and see" day.

Or you could stop by a pregnancy center and make a donation. Sign something saying it's not for medical reasons and you just want to count one more time.
post #39 of 88
I'll add my anecdata.

I had my first at 18 and my 3rd at 23. Yes it's not "old" but it is oldER. I gained more weight with my 3rd and in a different manner. That's just what happens. NOTHING is exactly the same each time you have a baby which would mean that NOTHING happens in the exact same manner each time you have a baby. That's just the way life works. At this point and in this day and age missing a twin in an ultrasound isn't going to be super common. Yes, your baby could have one hiding beneath him but the quality and clarity of ultrasounds makes that less likely. Add in the fact that you are/were on medicaid and I really really doubt it. I've been on medicaid. They don't want to pay out more than need be (hence the one ultrasound) so they are going to make sure they have the right head count. It's a matter of covering their bases and protecting their pocket book. I understand the idea of how exciting it is but seriously. At this point I'm not sure why you posted. If you are soooo convinced it could be twins you have already made up your mind. Many ladies here have pointed out how unlikely it is and you keep coming back with point after point about how just maybe possibly it could maybe possibly be. Everything you point to can be chalked up to a singleton as well (my mom had twins and gained 11 lbs.....weight gain is not the sole deciding factor). My second was a crazy active baby. I had to push her body around in order to just sit. My third was my smallest and I gained the most with her.

Maybe you are a time traveller! When my mom had my brothers 19 years ago ultrasounds were so craptastic they did miss baby b. They also missed the growth that appeared to look like a triplet at first. So there you go. You've got more "proof" to back up your claims. All courtesy of the ever reliable internet.

Congrats on your pregnancy!
post #40 of 88
Your OB/midwife would probably notice several things (which COULD mean twins but not FOR SURE)

-Higher levels of the HCG hormone.
-Measuring larger once you get into the second or third trimester. (You don't normally measure larger for twins in the first trimester.)
-And they would most likely notice when doing an ultrasound done at the normal time (12-20 weeks or beyond) since it shows "splices".

A twin pregnancy could be missed in an ultrasound if done before 7 weeks. I had an ultrasound at 5 or 6 weeks (I really can't remember when) and the OB I was using at the time said that it was really too early to tell if there was just one baby. (Which I thought was kind of strange, but whatever.... I have seen people show clear multiple sacs at this time.)

And a twin CAN be missed when checking for a heartbeat. Generally, your caregiver just looks for one heartbeat, and once found, it's over and done with... unless twins are suspected.

So this all can mean something... or nothing. But it definitely doesn't sound like you're pregnant with twins.

Firstly, after having three children (then 4 miscarriages before getting pregnant with this wee one)... I gained a different amount of weight each time. Also, you may find you feel one way when pregnant with girls and another with boys.

Each pregnancy can be VERY different from the last, so while we like to compare, it's really just "throws things off" because we tend to think they should all be alike.

And, with each pregnancy, you will probably find yourself looking bigger sooner. That's just how it is. (Even if you are a small person to begin with, like me.)
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