Conflicting fertility signs... which to believe (? re: EPO, too)

[babygrey]

As many of you know, I'm fairly new to charting. This is my second cycle of charting, and my 3rd cycle. I'm also nursing-- 10 months pp.

I'm getting conflicting fertility signs, and wondering what you expert charting goddesses think b/c I'm trying to decide what to do about my supps

First, here...
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2c383d

My temps really look like I O'd to me- am I reading that correctly?

However, my CM doesn't match up- but, I did mark CD11 and CD13 as Sticky and Creamy and I debated whether to call both of them EWCM.. if they were EWCM, they were the tiniest little blobs. CD13 was pink/brown tinged, which is maybe hopeful for O spotting?

Also confusing, I started using the CBEFM on CD12 (in anticipation of a long cycle- I set my CD11 as monitor's CD5- so my first test day was my CD12) and it has only shown me as 'Low', except, if I O'd on CD12, the day I started using it, it is possible that it missed it I guess? (Last time I used it to ttc DD, it took a few months before I got consistent reads, plus I'm bf'ing and who knows what that might do to it...)

Basically, my ? is, what do you do when your fertility signs are conflicting? Which should I believe? Do you think I O'd?

I know I can just wait it out, and BD like I haven't O'd, and I plan to ...but I started taking EPO and was intending to stop post-O b/c I think EPO is a no-no in pg...

Any thoughts? Should I stop the EPO JIC?

TIA.

[HulaJenn]

Temps are the primary indicator of O so that thermal shift is the main thing to watch for. I think if your temps go down much lower then FF may take your CHs away.
I don't know much about CBEFMs so no help there. And CM can be so varied depending on each woman. PLus the interpretation can also be tough (in terms of identifying the type I mean).
Sorry, but I think it's the wait and see game. Keep DTD in case!

[karmab]

if you look through the chart gallery on ff, you can find all kinds of crazy looking charts that end up being pregnancies, so who knows. im hoping i have one of those this month, cuz my chart is wonkiy too.

as far as temps and cm, how bout adding cp to that? i think it's real helpful too. it was a little hard to figure out the first cycle, but now it's real simple, i know where it is when it's low and when it's high, and when it's soft or firm. it doesnt take long.

they do say if there is any doubt, just keep dtd every other day or so if you can until you know for sure one way or the other.

[TheDivineMrsM]

Originally Posted by karmab

as far as temps and cm, how bout adding cp to that? i think it's real helpful too. it was a little hard to figure out the first cycle, but now it's real simple, i know where it is when it's low and when it's high, and when it's soft or firm. it doesnt take long.

they do say if there is any doubt, just keep dtd every other day or so if you can until you know for sure one way or the other.

I agree. I love The Beautiful Cervix Project, this site where a woman (somehow!) was able to take pics of her CM every day throughout her cycle. It really helped me interpret what CM I was seeing and which CP I was feeling. I use those signs first, then check out temps and OPKs to confirm. Good luck!!

[karmab]

with your highest temp 97.6, and your cm, i think there is still a real good chance you have not o'd yet. i'd keep dtd in case.

[KristaDJ]

When you are breastfeeding you are not likely to have EWCM that makes it out of the vagina. I have conceived twice without it though so don't stress too much. I agree that O doesn't look that for sure yet so keep BD'ing anyway

[finnegansmom]

My gut instinct after nursing and TTCing a few times myself, is that you haven't Od yet.
Your temps are not really that much higher and are very consistent with the previous cycle where it seems you didn't O. It's very common to not ovulate while nursing.

Have you thought about using OPKs to confirm your LH surge? It won't tell you for sure that you are going to ovulate - you can gear up and get a + and still not ovulate, but I used them when we were TTCing #2 and it worked for us.

[babygrey]

Thanks for the input, ladies- will certainly keep dtd. Guess I will keep taking the epo, as the general agreement seems to be I didn't O?
Too bad, too, b/c I'm going oot this weekend for a whole week w/o DH and Murphy's law says for sure I'll O then

TheDivineMrsM&karmab
Love the Beautiful Cervix Project. I've tried on and off for years to include CP in my fert signs. Personally, tho, I find CP in myself to be a super confusing piece of data for two reasons- I have a retroverted uterus, so positionally, it is hard for me to reach, and I had a cone biopsy for abnormal cells a few years ago and, since then it just doesn't seem to ever close fully, and sometimes I think I'm poking scar tissue when I feel hard. Will consider trying again, tho...

karmab
I'm a low temp girl, it seems. (have had my thyroid checked twice, most recently two weeks ago, in fact, because I was worried about the low temps. Normal.) Its funny that you point out 97.6 as being low, b/c I saw it and thought 'wow, that's a high temp'... I barely even broke 97 last cycle. I guess that's why I was asking the board, tho, b/c i don't know if just the thermal shift is what I'm looking for or if, really, I'll see higher temps once I O, kwim?

KristaDJ&HulaJenn thanks for the reassurance about the no-fertile seeming CM. Interpretation in FF's few options is kind of difficult

finnegansmom
I did try OPKs, they were a major frustrating experience bc of the gear up and no O that you were talking about. I got days and days of positives. That's why I went back to the CBEFM this cycle, it is rather like an OPK on steroids. (checks for both estrogen and LH surge)