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post #41 of 60
I felt like this until I starting being a WOHM. Now I've come to this epiphany:

Working cause you enjoy the challenge is great. Working cause you need to....sucks big time.
post #42 of 60
I am sometimes. I went to lunch with my husband and his co-workers the other day, and felt envious of the working moms who looked so polished and sounded so accomplished and exciting. Meanwhile, I was wrangling the baby, who promptly threw up all over me and everything. I couldn't pay attention to the conversation, couldn't contribute, and felt totally out of place. Luckily, most days are better than this.
post #43 of 60
I do sometimes envy professional mamas their wardrobes. Mine is, um, bad. But then, my last job was as a programmer and poor fashion sense is practically a prerequisite in IT.

Honestly, though, I love being a SAHM. I teach piano lessons part time for extra money and that is also a lot of fun. I am aware of how lucky I am.
post #44 of 60
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Originally Posted by Birdie B. View Post
I am sometimes. I went to lunch with my husband and his co-workers the other day, and felt envious of the working moms who looked so polished and sounded so accomplished and exciting. Meanwhile, I was wrangling the baby, who promptly threw up all over me and everything. I couldn't pay attention to the conversation, couldn't contribute, and felt totally out of place. Luckily, most days are better than this.
But I wonder how those moms look on the weekends and when putting their kids to bed? It's all contextual. I mean I look nice when I dress up for a wedding or other event. If I were going out on a planned lunch with co-workers, I would look nice, but most days at work I don't look too much different than I would if I were still a SAHM.

Granted, I always tried to look half-way decent when I stayed at home and I sometimes (too often) wear just jeans and nice shirt/shoes to work. I like casual clothes and hate suits and fancy clothes. So I wear them only when I absolutely have to, whether I'm WOH or SAH.

In fact, I think one of the best things about being a SAH (when I was) is that I never bought a pair of pantyhose!

I honestly think the working mom with a stylish wardrobe is far and few between. It's probably the younger gals who are more stylish. I'm a working mom myself and when I look at myself and the other working moms I see on daily basis, we just don't have the time nor the money (daycare!!) to spend on a wardrobe. And even if by some fairy godmother granted wish I didn't have to pay for daycare, I'd probably sock "wardrobe" money away for my child's college fund or something.

And I just don't have time in the morning to do more than basic upkeep and maybe a little make-up.

I only look nice if I have a really important meeting. That's when I pull out the suits and make-up. Other than that, I don't look much different than I did as a SAHM.
post #45 of 60
Thanks for your reply. I was feeling a little down about that incident, but for the most part I don't have a huge problem with it. I like being comfy at home, and although it was fun to get dressed up for the lunch (I even put on hose, curled my hair and put on makeup!) I am glad I don't ahve to do it every day.

My main envy was how easy it seems for his co-workers to balance their work and family lives, and makes me feel like I'm not doing enough. They have kids AND work AND look beautiful and stylish AND are happy about it - that's where my feeling of inadequacy comes in. They do so much, and I sometimes feel intimidated when I'm with them. That's the part I envy - how they "do it all" and I only stay at home.
post #46 of 60
Having to have gone back to work fulltime a fw months ago, no I don't envy working moms. I hate every minute of it, hate that I miss supper & bedtime every night of the week. I hate that DH forced me to do this. I hate DH sometimes because he doesn't want to cut back on things for me to stay home with the kids, that he feels entitled to the "good" stuff.

I make a measly $8.58/hr. Hardly worth me working, if you ask me.
post #47 of 60
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I am sometimes. I went to lunch with my husband and his co-workers the other day, and felt envious of the working moms who looked so polished and sounded so accomplished and exciting. Meanwhile, I was wrangling the baby, who promptly threw up all over me and everything. I couldn't pay attention to the conversation, couldn't contribute, and felt totally out of place. Luckily, most days are better than this.
Kinda OT, but this reminds me of when we first moved out here pre-kids, and I would meet DH at his office happy hours and be shocked that the wives never went, they were always at home with the kids. Now I understand all too well.

Regarding the "stylish working moms", also pre-kids, I had a coworker who was really cute and always dressed very stylishly, and *frequently* mentioned that she had 4 kids and that's why she took pains to look good. At the time, not having any kids, I didn't appreciate how much freaking time and effort it must have taken her to maintain that look--she told me once she woke up at 4am to work out and do her hair, etc. Can you imagine?!? So there ya' go--quit sleeping and you too can be all that.
post #48 of 60
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Having to have gone back to work fulltime a fw months ago, no I don't envy working moms. I hate every minute of it, hate that I miss supper & bedtime every night of the week. I hate that DH forced me to do this. I hate DH sometimes because he doesn't want to cut back on things for me to stay home with the kids, that he feels entitled to the "good" stuff.

I make a measly $8.58/hr. Hardly worth me working, if you ask me.
That sounds really difficult. I hope at some point you are able to quit your job.
post #49 of 60
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Thanks for your reply. I was feeling a little down about that incident, but for the most part I don't have a huge problem with it. I like being comfy at home, and although it was fun to get dressed up for the lunch (I even put on hose, curled my hair and put on makeup!) I am glad I don't ahve to do it every day.

My main envy was how easy it seems for his co-workers to balance their work and family lives, and makes me feel like I'm not doing enough. They have kids AND work AND look beautiful and stylish AND are happy about it - that's where my feeling of inadequacy comes in. They do so much, and I sometimes feel intimidated when I'm with them. That's the part I envy - how they "do it all" and I only stay at home.


I very much doubt that it's easy for your husband's co-workers to balance.

My world of work-life-kid balance is literally falling apart most of the time, and I probably look pretty together and like it's easy when I go out for a work lunch.

Good thing with a work lunch all I need to do is dress myself. They don't see the piles of laundry on my floor at home during the lunch. They don't see my crying kid who wants to go to a park that day when we are at lunch.

Don't think from someone else's snapshot moment in time that it is easy for them. In fact, they probably would have a lot of things in common with you if you ask them.
post #50 of 60
Oh goodness no! I've worn that hat, and I'm much happier where I am now! Perhaps look into getting a part time job, or volunteering outside of the home?
post #51 of 60
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My main envy was how easy it seems for his co-workers to balance their work and family lives, and makes me feel like I'm not doing enough. They have kids AND work AND look beautiful and stylish AND are happy about it - that's where my feeling of inadequacy comes in. They do so much, and I sometimes feel intimidated when I'm with them. That's the part I envy - how they "do it all" and I only stay at home.
Are you serious?!!

The working moms I know with small children (myself included - thank goodness I'm PT right now but I'm going back FT in a few months and not looking forward to it) are all guilt-ridden, sleep-deprived wrecks. Dollars to doughnuts those women were jealous of you.

There's no such thing as "doing it all." Caring for a small child is a full-time job and if you want to have a different job then you have to hire someone else to do *your* job of caring for your own kid. Those women aren't doing any more than you are doing. They are just doing something different with the same amount of time. Not necessarily something they'd rather be doing either.
post #52 of 60
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Are you serious?!!

The working moms I know with small children (myself included - thank goodness I'm PT right now but I'm going back FT in a few months and not looking forward to it) are all guilt-ridden, sleep-deprived wrecks. Dollars to doughnuts those women were jealous of you.

There's no such thing as "doing it all." Caring for a small child is a full-time job and if you want to have a different job then you have to hire someone else to do *your* job of caring for your own kid. Those women aren't doing any more than you are doing. They are just doing something different with the same amount of time. Not necessarily something they'd rather be doing either.
Agreed! I'm a horrible mess most of the time

Having said that - I work for two fold... I'm a single mama, and I have to in order to support myself and my two children, but I also work because it's in my blood and if I wasn't at least part time I would be wandering in lost circles (I'm a trauma/emerg nurse - bring me your sickest/most injured pts. and I am in my glory!)

Leaving my two year old is difficult at times, but she's the kind of kid that thrives in daycare. If she was clingy and introverted and suffered from going, I think it would be more difficult, but she thrives there. Also, I'm lucky in that she spends minimal time at daycare (we have other help - my gf, my mom)

My house is a mess, I'm overweight from stress eating, wearing clothes a decade out of style, and I can't remember the last time I did something for myself - every moment outside of work is spent with my kids. Shopping for them/with them, playing and hanging out... it's not easy - that's for sure.
post #53 of 60
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Are you serious?!!

The working moms I know with small children (myself included - thank goodness I'm PT right now but I'm going back FT in a few months and not looking forward to it) are all guilt-ridden, sleep-deprived wrecks. Dollars to doughnuts those women were jealous of you.

There's no such thing as "doing it all." Caring for a small child is a full-time job and if you want to have a different job then you have to hire someone else to do *your* job of caring for your own kid. Those women aren't doing any more than you are doing. They are just doing something different with the same amount of time. Not necessarily something they'd rather be doing either.
I totally agree.
post #54 of 60
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I remember on mat leave I was looking forward to a peaceful lunch etc. Ha! Now I just have my boss/phone/email/colleagues interrupting and they can't be distracted with a toy.
I love this!!


I totally feel ya on being conflicted. I actually envy the moms who aren't conflicted about their choice! Those moms that either know they want to work or know they want to be full-time sahms!

I think it's our culture, this time in history, and many many factors. I grew up being told I could and should have it all (as in the Charlie commercials, I can bring home the bacon, fry it up in a pan, yadda, yadda, yadda). But then when I wanted to have a family, I wanted more than anything to be a mom, and nothing else. I wanted to give my kids what I didn't have. I imagined this blissful and idyllic and peaceful life at home with my kids. Yet having my whole life wrapped around just my kids and home left me feeling like I wanted something more. So, yes, conflict.

However, for the majority of the time when my kids were very small, I either did not work at all or I worked very very part-time, like one day a week. I also had a period of time where I worked from home. And looking back now, I am so grateful that I did that and that we had that time. Now, my kids are a bit older, and I work more. Some from home, some away from home, but still only half-time. And there are days when it feels very hectic. But I really enjoy what I do and it is not just a job to make money. Although the extra money is certainly nice. I do feel very grateful to have this situation. But I also believe we can create whatever life we want. You just have to imagine what your perfect day looks like, and figure out what you can do to make that happen. Maybe you can volunteer, maybe you can do some freelance writing from home, maybe you can work one night a week at a restaurant while your DP is home, or maybe you just focus only on your kids now until they are a bit older.

I have also realized, as I age, that there are no perfect answers, and you can try on different hats at different times in your life. Good luck!
post #55 of 60
No way. I've been a WOHM, and I hated it. I was miserable and depressed. I'm so happy to be at home now.
post #56 of 60
Jealous of the paycheck, not the actual WOH part!
post #57 of 60
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I love this!!


I totally feel ya on being conflicted. I actually envy the moms who aren't conflicted about their choice! Those moms that either know they want to work or know they want to be full-time sahms!

I think it's our culture, this time in history, and many many factors. I grew up being told I could and should have it all (as in the Charlie commercials, I can bring home the bacon, fry it up in a pan, yadda, yadda, yadda). But then when I wanted to have a family, I wanted more than anything to be a mom, and nothing else. I wanted to give my kids what I didn't have. I imagined this blissful and idyllic and peaceful life at home with my kids. Yet having my whole life wrapped around just my kids and home left me feeling like I wanted something more. So, yes, conflict.

However, for the majority of the time when my kids were very small, I either did not work at all or I worked very very part-time, like one day a week. I also had a period of time where I worked from home. And looking back now, I am so grateful that I did that and that we had that time. Now, my kids are a bit older, and I work more. Some from home, some away from home, but still only half-time. And there are days when it feels very hectic. But I really enjoy what I do and it is not just a job to make money. Although the extra money is certainly nice. I do feel very grateful to have this situation. But I also believe we can create whatever life we want. You just have to imagine what your perfect day looks like, and figure out what you can do to make that happen. Maybe you can volunteer, maybe you can do some freelance writing from home, maybe you can work one night a week at a restaurant while your DP is home, or maybe you just focus only on your kids now until they are a bit older.

I have also realized, as I age, that there are no perfect answers, and you can try on different hats at different times in your life. Good luck!
I wonder if the Charlie woman (from the old commercial) had children? I certainly found I could have it "all" before kids. I brought home the bacon and fried it up in a pan, and things were fine.

With a child, it's a whole other ballgame.

And with a husband who does not in any way support the concept of a SAHP, it's very difficult to feel as though I even have a choice. As I've mentioned before my husband has verbalized many times over he would rather have cable television than a SAHP. If cuts had to be made, sacrifices made, he wouldn't even want to cut out cable television to make it happen. That is how anti-SAHP he is.

He brings home half the bacon (a little more than half) but he does not fry it up in the pan. So, DH does not have it all either. Neither of us do.

So, yeah, I think the ideas sold to us were highly dependent on who we married IF we had kids (the choice I made).

And that's ironic because that's not very far from the traditional condition of women in marriage. I feel like I've just had the work place added, but no real choice was involved in any of this beyond the choice to get married and then to have a baby.

It makes me so sad to think I could only have it "all" if I did not give birth to a child. That has been the thing that has brought me down economically, taken away choices, opportunities, and independence.

For instance, if I had no children, in this bad marriage, I could seek a higher paying job in a different state, and no one could stop me, and I could achieve better heights and independence and recover from a bad marriage.

With a child, I can't pursue opportunities elsewhere that pay more money and bring more balance with the opportunity. I have to stay where DH wants to be, and he's a real stick in the mud about any sort of progress or change. I've always worked so DH can't comprehend a world where I don't work...that would be too much change for him, and he doesn't want to support that and have all the economic pressure placed on him.
post #58 of 60
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It makes me so sad to think I could only have it "all" if I did not give birth to a child. That has been the thing that has brought me down economically, taken away choices, opportunities, and independence.

For instance, if I had no children, in this bad marriage, I could seek a higher paying job in a different state, and no one could stop me, and I could achieve better heights and independence and recover from a bad marriage.

With a child, I can't pursue opportunities elsewhere that pay more money and bring more balance with the opportunity. I have to stay where DH wants to be, and he's a real stick in the mud about any sort of progress or change. I've always worked so DH can't comprehend a world where I don't work...that would be too much change for him, and he doesn't want to support that and have all the economic pressure placed on him.
Same here.

Don't get me wrong, I love my children more than life itself - but lately I've been feeling extremely penned in and trapped.

I would love, love, love to move to another province, or even away from this godforsaken town - but I'm stuck here, because my ex is here.

Now, I have primary physical and could probably petition the court to leave (and be successful) but the drama of transporting my two kids for visitation is incomprehensible to me (at least at this point in time, my youngest is only two).
post #59 of 60
Absolutely not. I have been a SAHM for 18 years and for that am eternally grateful.
post #60 of 60
As someone else said.. the money would be nice but is not worth the headaches.
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