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VBAC awareness, advice with friend issue

post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 
I think this is the place to put it, as I don't think it belongs in the VBAC archives, as I'm not looking for advice on VBAC, but how to deal with VBAC awareness.

Ok, so a friend of mine has two kids, and just found out she is pregnant. I am also pregnant just ending the first trimester. So anywho, she and I are both VBACs, I only after one cs, her after 2. That is if she decides to VBAC.

Her first, of what I know, was an elective induction at 39 weeks, I think she may have been told her placenta was "aging", but I'm convinced most OBs say this to get a consent to inducing. Her cervix never ripened, or effaced and she was started on Pitocin, with no epidural, no birth class education, and was in immense pain, with contractions that wouldn't let up, and then after a while, as her cervix didn't dilate because it wasn't ripe, she was given a cesarean. Baby was never in distress, and mom had no signs of distress, only couldn't take pain and she wasn't dilating. So, she's pregnant again, and this time it was a scheduled repeat cs, 1 week early as her Dr. was going on vacation. When she and I were talking about our next babies, I said, "oh we are going to have a VBAC" She then asked what that was. I was pretty shocked that her Dr. hadn't told her what it was, after having 2 cs and the plans of another baby.

So, I told her, gave her info on what I have found, I'm a studying Doula, so I have tons of info, and being an HBAC I have enough education to feel I'm making a fully informed decision. So I've given her tons of info. She said she will talk to her Dr. about it. In our area, the VBAC rate in hospitals, and has been for years and years is about 1%, and those are mostly in one OBs practice. Most hospitals have "banned" VBACs. Also, I believe, based on her description, that he gave her, possibly, some faulty information on her pelvis.

She was really crushed when she could birth vaginally with her first, had tons of BF problems after both CS. I really feel she wants to birth vaginally, but I feel she isn't the type of person who feel comfortable "going against the grain" when it comes to this.

So my question is, what am I supposed to do? I know, if she asks for advice/something, to tell her what I feel/think and studies and such. But I don't know if she is the type to go looking for this stuff. The thing is, I'd rather her have the info, not asked for, then not have the info.

What would y'all do? Am I being to pushy? Is this my business or my part to say anything?
post #2 of 6
I agree you shouldn't push it - it might start to annoy her and send her the other way. What I would do, if I were you, is send her a link to an article or some info every once in awhile. Sort of a 'hey, I found this information while I was studying for my doula license,' or 'I was looking up some information for myself and thought you might find this useful.' Pick two or three articles or websites you think are most relevant, and send them unasked for. If she continues the dialogue with you about VBAC, you can continue to send her info. if she ignores or doesn't respond, I would probably let it drop. Especially given the climate in your area regarding vbac, and the fact that she would be a vba2c, she just might not be comfortable going for it. Good luck to you and your friend!
post #3 of 6
I agree about not pushing it too much...but starting off with getting a feel from her if she's interested in a VBAC. My guess, from the sounds of what you said, she'd need to change OB/providers. So, that would probably be a big deal too. If she's not one to go against the grain a lot, she's going to have to have the one and only provider that you're talking about that will allow a VBAC, because she most likely won't be fighting someone to get it.

So, I personally would start with finding out how interested she is in a VBAC and talking about providers! Mention small things about your VBAC and what YOU want for yourself. And get a read from how she feels on it. If she seems to be interested, maybe you can dive more into the subject then!

Good luck!
post #4 of 6
Do you have a local ICAN chapter? You could invite her to attend a meeting with you. If not, you could just happen to send her a link in the fashion mentioned by other posters, as in "oh, here's some interesting info for you."

You may be right, she might not be the kind of person who would go against the grain, but she could at least have some knowledge going into it that she didn't have the last two times around. You really can't do much more than that.
post #5 of 6
Thread Starter 
ICAN is a great idea, I'm going to start attending meetings, so inviting her to come with me is a wonderful idea.

I've sent her some stuff, and she never really responds. So one day day, I asked her, pretty much point blank, do you want me to keep sending these? I get the feeling you are not interested, I won't send you any more. She replied with, I am, don't take my no response as not interested. She said when they got pregnant that she would talk to her Dr. about birthing vaginally.

Everything I find says there is no greater risk to VBAMC than VBA1C. I think a part of me really just feels saddened that she will miss out with a repeat c/s. She had a lot more issues with her second, which I believe is mainly because she didn't get to labor at all like with her first. What I don't understand, is she labored HARD with her first, I'm talking serious contractions with Pit, and the baby was never in distress, so why would anyone worry about the risks to the baby distress with a TOL?

I read somewhere a worm eating a horse raddish thinks it's the most wonderful thing on earth because he has never tasted a sweet juicy apple. That's kinda how I feel, and I wish more moms were aware of their choices.
post #6 of 6
Just letting her know she does have choices in how she has her babies, whether or not her doc tells her(may get her to the point of changing providers) and where to go to get more info(I second the ICAN meeting, maybe go together so she doesn't feel alone) and to know that to have the greatest chance of success in a VBAC, may mean she might have to consider hb....congrats on your upcoming hb, btw(did I read that right? )
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