Any NON-WHO violating formula companies? - Page 2

[jeanine123]

Originally Posted by Equuskia

As for the Nestlé boycott, yes, all their products are boycotted except their formula, because a baby has to eat, even if it's Nestlé.

Do you have a link to this exclusion? Or could you point me in the right direction to find it? I've heard it before but when I went looking for it last week I came up empty, though it could have been because I was using the wrong search terms or just didn't have enough time. I'd love to have this info for future use, thanks!!

[Hopesmommy]

I think that Baby's Only may be WHO compliant, unless I missed something. They are labeled as a toddler formula simply because they believe that breastmilk is the ideal choice before 12 months. It can still be used for infants if needed.

[jeanine123]

But on their website they have a cute little baby on all fours looking at you, not a walking toddler.

http://www.naturesone.com/dairy/

[boobs4milk]

the special stuff you get in the hospital wouldn't be compliant. the hospitals buy the formula and are given freebies like bibs, pacifiers and bottles. i saw a continer of the neocate in the storage area of the nicu and it came with free bottles.

eta: and all of the freebies say the name of the formula...so is that advertising?

[jeanine123]

Originally Posted by boobs4milk

eta: and all of the freebies say the name of the formula...so is that advertising?

Yep. It's getting the product's name out there.

[amydiane]

Originally Posted by CorasMama

Nutramigen, Neocate, and Elecare are specialized formulas that shouldn't be used without a doctor's recommendation.

Also, Elecare is made by Abbott, parent company of Similac.

[boobs4milk]

nutramigen is enfamil and i just went to the neocate website and there's a baby grabbing at a bottle on the front page.

[KimberlyD0]

[QUOTE=ein328;15109565]

Originally Posted by CorasMama

Pumped milk isn't a viable option for most. There just simply isn't a free-flowing source of sufficient, tested, available donor milk enough for 99.9% of moms.QUOTE]

Ummmm I have been on MilkShare for the past month trying to find a home for 300+ oz of breastmilk- and, like most of the women on the site, have clean test results to boot. There is lots of donor milk out there- if you know where to look. I would refer her to MilkShare. Even if you can't give 100% bm, some is better than none.

It should also be noted that Doner BM is avalible to only special need babies and preemies. Its also $3.5 an OZ

least thats the information we got from the Canadian Milk Bank when I was unable to BF my first DD. Its likly similer in the US

Doner milk, while better then formula, is saddly not always an option

Canada BTW has only one milk bank.

[StoriesInTheSoil]

Originally Posted by KimberlyD0

It should also be noted that Doner BM is avalible to only special need babies and preemies. Its also $3.5 an OZ

least thats the information we got from the Canadian Milk Bank when I was unable to BF my first DD. Its likly similer in the US

Doner milk, while better then formula, is saddly not always an option

Canada BTW has only one milk bank.

Yes, banked milk can be cost-prohibitive but banked milk is not the only donor milk that is available.

[Ceinwen]

[QUOTE=tinyactsofcharity;15113293]

Originally Posted by KimberlyD0

Yes, banked milk can be cost-prohibitive but banked milk is not the only donor milk that is available.

Be that as it may, this means nothing if you have no other sources of milk - period.

[Momily]

Originally Posted by Hopesmommy

I think that Baby's Only may be WHO compliant, unless I missed something. They are labeled as a toddler formula simply because they believe that breastmilk is the ideal choice before 12 months. It can still be used for infants if needed.

Sorry, I don't believe that for an instant. If they don't market it to infants, then why isn't it called "Toddler's Only" or something? Why are their infants all over their website. I think there's some reason why they choose not to label it for infants, likely some reason associated with costs to them.

[KimberlyD0]

[QUOTE=tinyactsofcharity;15113293]

Originally Posted by KimberlyD0

Yes, banked milk can be cost-prohibitive but banked milk is not the only donor milk that is available.

My point was that its not always avalible to a parent. There was non avalible for us with DD#1 so we used formula. When your in that situation there is no real choice. Its FF or the baby doesn't eat.

[ein328]

Good gracious!
I was just pointing out that if someone asked me about formula, I would ask them if they had tried to find donor milk yet.
MilkShare milk (just an example) is FREE. The only cost is shipping. Last time I checked, there were many mamas looking to donate considerable amounts of milk. And priority shipping is available all over the US (making dry ice not even necessary in most cases). If you live in Canada, you could try to find someone in Canada to ship.
My point is, breastmilk banks are NOT the only sources of donor milk! That's such a misconception.

[CorasMama]

not everyone is comfortable with accepting milk for their babies of essentially unknown provenance. You don't know everything the donor took (blood tests are only a snapshot), and you don't know how the milk was handled. And unlike milkbank milk, the milk itself has not been screened.

[annettemarie]

We're getting a little off-topic. Normally, this wouldn't be a problem, but since Lactivism is a fairly specialized forum to begin with, I am going to ask that those who wish to discuss donor milk, when to recommend it, its safety, etc, please start a new thread in the general breastfeeding forum, and that this thread please be used to answer the OP's questions about the WHO-code and formula advertising. Any further off-topic posting will be removed.

Thanks!
Annette

[ein328]

Sorry

[annettemarie]

No problem! I know conversations tend to meander. We're just trying to keep the thread/forum on topic.

[RoseDuperre]

What about some store brands? I hope that's not a dumb question.

For example, there's a store called Wegman's in my region (NY and PA) which sells an organic formula. No pictures of any sort of the can, never advertised as far as I know.

[Equuskia]

Originally Posted by jeanine123

Do you have a link to this exclusion? Or could you point me in the right direction to find it? I've heard it before but when I went looking for it last week I came up empty, though it could have been because I was using the wrong search terms or just didn't have enough time. I'd love to have this info for future use, thanks!!

From the Baby Milk Action website:

Protecting babies fed on formula

Breastmilk substitutes are legitimate products for when a child is not breastfed and does not have access to expressed or donor breastmilk. Companies should comply with composition and labelling requirements and other Code requirements to reduce risks - independently of government measures. Parents have a right to accurate, independent information.

Baby Milk Action is not anti-baby milk. Our work protects all mothers and infants from irresponsible marketing.

This page:
http://www.babymilkaction.org/resour...yqacode03.html

also talks about what I mentioned in my previous post.

[jeanine123]

Awesome, thanks!