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post #1 of 7
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Ok, please, help me figure this out. I think I have sleep deprived mommy brain.

I have a 9 month old. His sleep seems to have gotten worse and worse (more wakings). I ruled out teething - he's past a lot of major teething - and some other potential causes. Now I'm on to potential dairy intolerance (he eats 3 meals a day and is still bf in between those meals), so I've cut out all dairy in the past few days. For weeks before this, I've been working on his sleep via the No Cry Sleep Solution, and while I'm glad I'm doing that stuff, I'm not sure it's addressing the frequent night waking.

Well, here's something else I've noticed since I decided to eliminate the dairy. Though it's been a cloudy Oregon winter, we got some days of sunshine. We decided to get out and go to the aquarium, do some other stuff to get outside more in the sun. And at least last night, it seemed like my son's sleep got a bit better - one or two fewer night wakings / breastfeedings. But that was only one night - the previous nights were just as bad as they have been for months. I swear, there was a time when he only woke me 2 times at night (we sleep in the same bed) - before all the teething and crawling and whatnot.

My husband has suggested that maybe we aren't getting outside enough. Probably true. Sometimes it's rainy and cold, and this is my only child, there's so much that needs doing inside, yadda yadda. But yesterday I spent time cleaning up outside with my little one in the Ergo on my back.

And then today, it was cold and rainy. I didn't want to go outside, and we didn't.

Well, here's what I'm wondering. Whatever the outcome of my no dairy experiment, I'm sure we do need more fresh air. But I have silly potential obstacles in my head.

Our place is rural. This should be wonderful, right? We have several acres of land, most of which is a field with very short grass. Except our place has our chickens running around, leaving poop everywhere. They get over the 6 foot high chain link fence. Can't fix this one right this second, but we will this year. Little one isn't walking yet. I have a jogging stroller. Most of our place is really bumpy, and I hate pushing a stroller around our field. The place is flat, just boggy and bumpy during this wet wintery time. We have a wonderful porch - with no railings / enclosures. Baby heads right for the edge or the steps when we sit out there. I think there's only a little bit of time I can stand sitting on the porch and constantly bringing him back from the edge of the cliff. I can push the stroller around our house on the wrap-around porch, or on the gravel driveway, but both of those options bore us pretty quickly. Putting baby into the muddy grassy ground to crawl around? Err...maybe when it's warm, and not where the chicken poop is...

Overcoming obstacles: I either walk around our place with baby in the Ergo, which is fine for a while. But then it gets on my nerves - it gets a little boring, he's very heavy, it restricts my breathing. So I take him in the jogging stroller to the nearby small town and walk around, which is also OK for a little while. And there are other towns I could go to when I get bored with ours, I guess. But all that takes time - I'd rather just take advantage of our place!

I can drive even farther to a city with parks, but that also offends me (I mean, I'll do it on occasion, just not every day). I want to save money, not set myself up with a silly trip to a city just to get outside when I'm in the country!

I feel so stupid. What do I do? Am I missing some options here? I guess I just have to force myself to get outside, putter around, hoe some more dandelions out of the flower bed, talk on the phone in the rain outside, etc. even if it's 3 times a day for a few minutes at a time on the yucky days. Did I just answer my own question? I wish I could come up with another person to hang out with when I'm doing this...none of my neighbors have babies or seem up for it :P

I also guess I need to either endure the weight of my child in the Ergo, which restricts my breathing, or put him in the stroller. This is such an awkward age! Anytime now, he'll be walking!

What are your experiences with dairy intolerance, fresh air, and sleep?

I have my own other questions about the dairy thing. Someone suggested my baby was having certain problems (profuse barf for the first 6 months) because of the dairy coming through my breastmilk. I stopped all dairy for a week and a half, and I saw absolutely no improvement. There's a strange preoccupation in certain circles with food allergies and such. I'm just not sure where the night waking-food intolerance link is coming from - is there some body of research I'm not aware of? Part of me wants dairy to be "the problem," just so my little one will sleep better, and part of me hopes not, because he loves it so much (and we get fresh whole milk full of great nutrition from a nearby farm).
post #2 of 7
I don't know about food and night wakings, but I can talk about getting outside!

First of all, it shouldn't be that uncomfortable to wear a 9 month old. Do you have him on back or on front? I wear my 12 month old on my back in a wrap all the time, and my friend does her similar-sized baby in an Ergo with no trouble. There's no guarantee a 9 month old is going to walk any time soon.

Second, it seems like you need to find something YOU actually want to do outside, or this is just going to be a chore. I like going on long hikes, but it seems like you could also jog, or bike, or garden, or photograph, or watch birds.... Figure out something that you want to do outside, think past the rain (it's never as bad as it seems from inside), and take your baby along.
post #3 of 7
My "solution" for having a winter baby in a cold climate has been to dial down the amount of time I think I need to spend outside for it be worthwhile. Somehow that defuses it for me. So instead of thinking "Oh lord, I have to put on my snow boots and then the wrap and then put him in his snowsuit and where's his other hat - okay, now we have to go for a walk for two hours... oh great, now it's snowing really hard!" I just think "I'm going to hold him under my coat and walk down to the mailbox." and if while I'm out there I want to walk for five more minutes, we do. And I try to just leave the house multiple times a day, with varying degrees of success.

Maybe you could ask in the Babywearing forum (either here, or on TheBabyWearer.com forums) about adjusting your Ergo so it's more comfy for you? Because it does sound like the better option for toting him around your place.

I don't know about the dairy. Kellymom points out on this topic that the idea of food intolerances in BM is absolutely immortal and can't be talked out of people, but isn't necessarily evidence-based. My theory is that in some cases there's some confirmation bias, coupled with how fast babies change: "Look, he's sleeping better now that I don't eat artichokes anymore!" - but maybe he was on the cusp of sleeping better anyway.
post #4 of 7
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Mckittre - it's not normally hard to wear him (on my back usually), though he is a bit of a chunk (over 23 pounds) - it's after an hour or so. It might be my Ergo. I got the bigger sport Ergo, thinking I was big enough (am 5'10") and that my husband might use it. Well, I'm disappointed at how low on my back he is and how the straps are pretty long and difficult to shorten properly (duh, since it's made for a different person). There's no way I make the belt go around my hips or he'd just be too low. So I end up cinching the waist part closer to my waist, which impacts my breathing, and I lean forward. I probably need to pay more attention to my posture. I think part of the answer is to attend a babywearing group and see if a regular-sized Ergo makes any difference.

And the outside thing - it's just these last few months before the garden gets going for the first time, when the weather is icky and there's not too much to "do" except appreciate the outdoors

My husband goes for a walk with our dog in the morning (yes, I can walk the dog too, but he's big and it's difficult to control him when I have baby on me). I'm starting to make myself go with him, no matter what the weather. The more I'm out there, I guess, the more I'll figure out to do.

Lalemma - I agree, I need to reduce my expectations of how long we'll be out there and just keep going out. I think the size of the Ergo I got is the problem, except I have this mental block about getting a regular one (even used) because I have 3 carriers and am not even using the ring sling. I should take a picture of me with baby on.

And I also suspect that about the food intolerance connection, especially with BM. Except now that it's being fed directly to him, I thought I'd try eliminating dairy. It's been a few days, and nothing clear is emerging. I'm sticking to it for a couple of weeks. And then, like you say, he could be changing anyway - and that's where I'll start adding it back in, to see what happens. Maybe he just had too much dairy in his diet and a less is OK.
post #5 of 7
I'm with you on the great outdoors-when it snows or is cold here I'm thinking the same thing. Just got back from an hour walk in 30 degree weather with LO in the ergo-bright shiny day, though! And the right ergo can probably make a big difference too-yours sounds really uncomfortable!

On the dairy issue, I have come to believe this is actually a pretty big deal. I am a vegetarian and dairy was very importnt to me but I cut it out when DD waa 2 months old to see if her crying might decrease-it stopped. Poor thing was in pain- and we hve no history of sensitivities to food at all.

I recently read The Baby Bond (recommended by someone at MDC)
http://thebabybond.com/ which goes into a number of issues thoroughly researched by the author on how to best care for our babies and liminting dairy is a big one. She demonstrates how dairy is linked to ADHD, intestinal bleeding in babies, immune issues and lots of more scary things too. The milk proteins pass directly to the babies in breastmilk too-so its kind of like they are having it directly.

I think kellymom also recommends cutting potential allergenic foods out for 3 weeks to get it completely out of both your and babies systems.

Good luck with it all-sounds like it might be nice to find some othr local Mamas-maybe they'd love to take walks in your bucolic (besides the chiclken poop) environment!
post #6 of 7
Quick farmgirl reply re: the chickens:

Do you clip their flying feathers? Really helps with getting out! Could be a quick solution to one of your problems!
post #7 of 7
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Well, we didn't know to do it right off the bat. Then a neighbor told us they clipped theirs later - and then watched those chickens go right over the fence again. So apparently sometimes it does no good. We're going to have a mobile chicken setup (chicken tractor, a la Joel Salatin, search youtube) and a yard fence. That should improve things.
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