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Normal for Toddler to Be Fastidious?

post #1 of 27
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Fastidious may not be the absolute best description of DS's behavior, but I'm just wanting to make sure that the behaviors I'm seeing are normal toddler behaviors (I think they probably are...).

DS is 19 months. He seems very attuned to the world around him and often notices when something has changed in his environment. Along these lines, if something seems "out of order" to him - e.g. a snowboot has toppled over onto its side, a box that once was in a stack of boxes is now sitting by itself next to the stack - he'll say "Uh-oh" a bunch of times until we acknowledge what he's noticing. We don't necessarily have to "fix" the situation, so much as acknowledge that, yes, something is not how it was before ("Yep. Sometimes the boots fall over. But it's ok"). DH said one time DS was repeatedly saying "uh oh" and getting increasingly upset until DH realized that DS had noticed that one of the rubber gloves for washing dishes had fallen on the floor. I'm assuming he was getting upset because it took awhile for DH to realize what the "uh oh" was about. "Uh oh" is something DH and I say a bunch (I imagine most parents do) when something unexpected or perhaps somewhat unfortunate has happened, butu we're never really dramatic about it.

The other piece of this is that DS will often request a napkin when he's eating so he can wipe his hands (or, yesterday, his nose when he got some oatmeal on it). He's not wiping off anything that I wouldn't also wipe off (of him, though usually not till he's done eating, or myself), and there still many times when he has, say, yogurt all over his face and hands and doesn't seem to mind. I just wondered if it was unusual for a kid his age to be cognizant of needing/wanting to wipe his hands off.

So...all normal, yes?
post #2 of 27
my daughter acts like this. she is a very visual kid. she once got mad at me for rearranging the toys on her shelves b/c they were not where they were supposed to be. took her a couple days to get used to the new order.

she also likes to have her hands wiped & will wipe her own face after a meal.

for her it is normal behavior.

according to my MIL DH was like this as a child. As an adult DH is still a very visual person (artist), likes order & routines, & likes a clean house/car/body
post #3 of 27
My son is just like this! I think it's cute. He doesn't like disorder, "dirty" or "messy" things. I certainly didn't instill this in him on purpose, but I'll take it! He's like his grandmother. Enjoy it!
post #4 of 27
Completely normal.
post #5 of 27
My DS has a "thing" with shutting doors, drawers and cabinets. They must.be.closed.all.the.time. It's cute and kind of OCD'ish.
post #6 of 27
DS (22mo) brings me microscopic pieces of lint he finds on the floor and says, "garbage." At first, I thought I had a little Rainman on my hands, but then my DH pointed out that I'm constantly picking lint from things too. Go figure.
post #7 of 27
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Originally Posted by kgreenemama View Post
DS (22mo) brings me microscopic pieces of lint he finds on the floor and says, "garbage." At first, I thought I had a little Rainman on my hands, but then my DH pointed out that I'm constantly picking lint from things too. Go figure.
Ahhahaahaahahahaha!!!! That's so funny.
post #8 of 27
i think it is absolutely normal and pretty cute too
DS is suddenly really into "cleaning" and always wants a napkin to wipe off his placemat after meals, and he also does the "uh-oh" thing when something gets messy.
I think he's just mimicking. They observe and learn so much from us.
But I also appreciate the need to check in on what is "normal" because I'm starting to realize that these little people can be pretty weird sometimes! ha ha.
I guess the weirdness is normal.
post #9 of 27
My DD (age 2) is a lot like this. She generally likes to wipe her face/hands while she eats, and she needs to get used to "dirty" activities like playing in a sandbox. She's usually fine with the sandbox, for example, after a bit, but she always has to warm up to the idea, it seems. She is also very particular about putting certain things away or shutting doors/gates behind her. If her sock is just a bit twisted, she has to have us fix it or take it off. My DH is a lot like this too.

I think it's normal.
post #10 of 27
At this age they are really into order.

If we have a puzzle that does not have all of the pieces, the world stops. If the water is on while I am brushing my teeth I am "wasting water OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG". Everything is dramatic and everything has to be perfect.

I believe it has something to do with learning language. To really get language you need order and syntax so that part is working extra hard and on steroids during this age.

Totally normal!
post #11 of 27
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Originally Posted by almadianna View Post
I believe it has something to do with learning language. To really get language you need order and syntax so that part is working extra hard and on steroids during this age.
This is a very interesting theory and makes a lot of sense.
post #12 of 27
ds1 was very much like yours. He also couldn't stand to have anything on his hands. It was worrisome for a while because I didn't like to touch things like sand, dirt, other things kids seemed to like to play with! Plus he's a BOY, so you think they should like to get messy! He outgrew it between 3 and 4.
post #13 of 27
My DS is just starting to become like this. Two weeks ago, he didn't appear to notice what a mess he was after dinner. Now, if he drips something on his shirt or pants, he will very carefuly scrape it off with his spoon (no idea where he got this from because I always use a cloth, but he must have seen someone do it). If his clothes get too many drips on them, he gets quite frantic to take them off and I have to help him right away or all hell breaks loose. All of a sudden also he hates getting his hands wet, unless it is to deliberately clean them. For example, he used to love nothing more than to swish his hands around in the dog's dish but this morning he poured my cup of tea (long since gone cold thank goodness) on to his hand and then got quite upset trying to wipe it clean.

I find it cute too and I'm curious to see how this develops. For now, I'm just glad that the dog's water dish isn't getting spilled twenty times a day anymore. And I love that now putting blocks away is just as fun as spilling them all over the place!
post #14 of 27
I will be the voice of dissent.... While there will be kids with these types of behaviors it isn't typical toddler development. Many of the behaviors described here are indications of some sensory issues. Now, with that said, it doesn't mean that there are any REAL issues here. Behaviors like these only become issues when they interefere with a child's ability to go about their day. A toddler that won't play with messy activities could miss out on some important developmental experiences.
post #15 of 27
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_periods

If you look at the "order" you will see that between the ages of 1 and 3 this is a huge deal. Actually part of the Montessori philosophy is to make sure that these needs are met for each child.
post #16 of 27
DD, almost 3, has been like this for as long as I can remember. She is meticulous about keeping her clothes clean. If anything gets on her shirt, she wants it wiped off and the shirt changed. We're working on getting her to accept that sometimes you don't need to change your clothes when you get a tiny splash of juice on them.

She's also meticulous about her environment, which often means she will clean up after herself, but increasingly means that when she does make "a mess" (dolls lined up in the middle of the floor, covered in blankets; different knick knacks stuffed in Ziploc bags and bags lined up or stashed in furniture), she doesn't want you to move them

She's like a little hoarder!

Along with what mamamillet was saying, I definitely think DD has some sensory issues. It's been difficult getting her to accept water play, but now she does. She doesn't like being wet or playing in snow, for example. And mud/finger painting? Forget it. She will make you wipe her fingers between every single dab, so it's just not worth it.

At this point, it's not impairing her in any real way that I can see. DH still has sensory issues as an adult, so it's not shocking to me.
post #17 of 27
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Originally Posted by almadianna View Post
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_periods

If you look at the "order" you will see that between the ages of 1 and 3 this is a huge deal. Actually part of the Montessori philosophy is to make sure that these needs are met for each child.
I agree that children do will with routines, "order" and predictability. They also have a tendency to notice and point out incongruencies. But, some of the behavios described are NOT typical for toddlers...in that MOST toddlers won't have them.
post #18 of 27
I think that we should not be so fast as to ediagnose something as a-typical since we are not there. I have yet to see anything that is out of the ordinary in any of the comments mentioned above. Of course you can disagree but I wanted to give another perspective.

The toddlers that I know and have studied (when I was going to school for this a few years back) pretty much went along what is mentioned above.
post #19 of 27
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Originally Posted by almadianna View Post
I think that we should not be so fast as to ediagnose something as a-typical since we are not there. I have yet to see anything that is out of the ordinary in any of the comments mentioned above. Of course you can disagree but I wanted to give another perspective.

The toddlers that I know and have studied (when I was going to school for this a few years back) pretty much went along what is mentioned above.
I do disagree. As a previous early childhood educator and and Early Interventionsist with the state of TN I can tell you that there is typical and there is that which falls outside the typical realm. Now, not everything that falls outside that typical realm is a problem, in fact, most of it won't be, but the idea that everything is normal and everyone is developing along there own timeline can be a very dangerous attitude to have!
post #20 of 27
I think that it is important to for parents to trust their instincts as to what is fine or not for their child. I am sure that if a parent feel like their child has something that they need help in they will follow their instinct. If the mamas above feel like their children have nothing to worry about I am sure that they dont, and I agree with them and trust their feelings.

I will fully disclose that as someone who also went to college for child development and worked closely in this field for a while I have real issues with early intervention in my state (texas) and their huge mis-diagnosis and labeling of children who do not fit into their schedule of what things should be. Don't get me wrong I have seen them help kids and I know that they do good as well, but they are too happy to label. My husband would have been labelled as having issues at if he would have been born recently for sure and there is nothing wrong with him he just developed at his own rate.


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Thanks mamas.
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