Charting to Avoid/Fertility Awareness, March 2010 - Page 4

[newbiemama09]

this may be TMI, but hey, we're charting here!! when you first started charting, were you checking CP? do you/did you check it everyday? because i just recently starting CP and i'm not sure i can tell the difference between ovulation CP and regular CP. any tips?

[onetwoten]

I don't check because I found it too confusing, and for me... Well I'm ok with an oops! I think if I were more worried about it, then I would commit to checking though. And I do believe that if you're looking to use it as a sign, several people have said it can take months before yuo feel confident. So I would check it every day, and maybe on a piece of looseleaf or something, write a description. And then after some time has gone by, you'll have a better description that just "high soft open" etc which can be confusing if you don't know what you're comparing it to.

But then again-- I dont check, so someone else might have better advice!

Rara-- yay for spotting!

MW: Wow. That sounds like some super special CF.

Random: FF calls watery fertile too. What I keep trying to remember is the picture of the sperm trying to swim through it, and I find that helps me remember what is and isn't fertile-- ie if it looks smooth enough to swim through- it's fertile. The sticky/very thick etc, maybe not so much.

AFM: I took my temp an hour late today, and so on my chart right now, it technically would be above my coverline if I drew up. Should I adjust this so that FF doens't alter my O date, or just leave it. I've been trying *not* to alter temps this month.

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by newbiemama09

this may be TMI, but hey, we're charting here!! when you first started charting, were you checking CP? do you/did you check it everyday? because i just recently starting CP and i'm not sure i can tell the difference between ovulation CP and regular CP. any tips?

If you want to learn your CP, you need to check it once a day, every day at the same time each day and in the same position. In the beginning, rather than worrying about whether or not you can discern the particular positions described in the books just try to notice when it changes. It will probably take you a few cycles to learn how it changes. Position is probably the easiest to get a handle on. In the beginning of your cycle and after O it should be easy to reach. As you get closer to O it will move further up until you might not be able to reach it at all.

jj ~ I'm not sure what you mean by your temp would be above the CL if you drew up. Does FF adjust your O day when you put the temp in as is? If you took it an hour later than usual, adjusted it would be 0.2 degrees lower. Unless you think FF will give you a confirmed O day because of the higher temp when you no you haven't Oed yet, I wouldn't worry about adjusting it at this point. If it gets in the way later, you can adjust it.

[onetwoten]

I'm literally waiting to o right now, so if I leave it as is, and put in a similiar temp for tomorrow, then it gives me crosshairs for two days ago. If I adjust it, then no crosshairs. Until tomorrow though it won't do anything with it. It's just an awkward date for it because I do expect to O within the next two days, otherwise I'd just ignore it. I'm worried that the high temp will affect my true coverline temperature, if that makes sense.

Chart Here...

[onetwoten]

Duh. I just went back and reread my post, and I meant to say "above my coverline if I drew ONE" not "up"

I was like "I don't get what you don't understand... "

So what I mean is that right now, based on that chart, I could draw a CL at 97.8 correct? Because the elevated temp is .2 higher, so I draw the line .1 higher? I'm not very good at putting in my own CL, just seeing the overall picture. But with that coverline, then it's going to think I o'ed. When really... the temp wasn't accurate.

[OSUvet]

Originally Posted by RaraAvis

Welcome On FF go to the SHARING button on the left hand side, then HOME PAGE SETUP -- on that page hit GET SHARING CODE/BUTTONS (we use bbCode Code)

Thanks RaraAvis! Does this work: My Ovulation Chart ?
Waiting to see if a couple temps >98 are coming to confirm O. We were not very...um...careful... during what looks like my fertile phase, so it is possible that my first attempt at CTA is a failure Well I just picked up my copy of TCOYF today, so I am studying up!

Oh well, DH and I both really want a baby, and we are only CTA to get in a bit better health for TTC so... well we will see I guess!

[MarineWife]

jj ~ The s/w is set up to ignore outlying temps, especially if they were taken outside your regular temp time. I wouldn't worry about it at this point. If you have two more high temps and FF gives you crosshairs, you know you'll need to wait at least one more day to be sure. Yes, you would put your CL at 97.8 for now.

Ovuset ~ That worked. It looks like O could've been yesterday but you need two more consecutive temps above 97.9 to be sure.

[wholewheatchick]

Well, AF arrived today.

But I'm pretty stoked that I O'd on CD 21, and had a solid 12 day LP, well, 13, acutually, since yesterday (13 DPO) my temp dropped by AF didn't start till this morning. Which makes this a 34 day cycle for me!

Which, for me, is REGULAR!!!!!! The shortest I've ever had was 30 days.

DH and I agreed that I won't chart for real again this month...we really liked it that way. But I DO like taking my temp after I'm pretty sure I've O'd, because my temps follow a pattern pretty well so I can kind of confirm it, plus then I know when to expect AF.

[echospiritwarrior]

do temps usually drop right a the beginning of a new cycle, right before/after OR (as I suspect) it completely depends on the individual?

I'm sort of bummed I lost about a weeks worth of data in my cycle with my hard drive crashing. it was my first really clear and obvious cycle but I think I have enough still to go by... my computer guy was also able to recover my usable data off the shot hard drive so if I can just figure out how to unzip them I might be able to recover a few more days... anyone done this using ovusoft?

thanks

[nerdymom]

Does anyone else here feel that you have more wet vaginal sensations AFTER O? because CD17, right after my temp shift, I had sticky CM, but every day since then I've had milky/creamy CM, which according to the book is considered fertile, I'm fairly certain.

[lmevans]

Originally Posted by echospiritwarrior

do temps usually drop right a the beginning of a new cycle, right before/after OR (as I suspect) it completely depends on the individual?

It depends...on the individual, and on the cycle, I think. I say that, because I used to get the temp drop the day before/day of AF, but now I dont. :

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by lmevans

It depends...on the individual, and on the cycle, I think. I say that, because I used to get the temp drop the day before/day of AF, but now I dont. :

Yeah, every person and every cycle is different. Some women always get a temp drop. Some women never do. I do sometimes but never really low. Sometimes my temps stays up above my old CL well into my new cycle.

nerdy ~ Creamy is considered fertile before O. Post-O, as long as you've had a clear sustained thermal shift, it's not. Some women claim that lots of creamy CF after O indicates pg but there isn't any significant data on that.

[Toolip]

Originally Posted by MarineWife

Some women claim that lots of creamy CF after O indicates pg but there isn't any significant data on that.

*gulp* I was just getting on to say something like, "it's seems like I've O'ed and now I'm getting gobs of creamy CF"

I really don't think I'm pg but I am very confused by my cf patterns. When do most women get their most fertile cf? Is it most fertile on the day of O?

I think that I don't get what most people call "EWCF" but I mark it on my chart when I get what I think is my most fertile cf, does that make sense?


my chart

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by Toolip

I really don't think I'm pg but I am very confused by my cf patterns. When do most women get their most fertile cf? Is it most fertile on the day of O?

I think that I don't get what most people call "EWCF" but I mark it on my chart when I get what I think is my most fertile cf, does that make sense?


my chart

Your peak is usually the day of or the day before O but it can be up to 3 days before your thermal shift starts. It's the day of the most fertile CF you have before O. It can be creamy, watery or ew. You do not have confirmed O yet but it's possible you Oed on cd11 or 12 based on your temps. One more high temp should confirm it. I'd probably go with cd12 at this point just to be safe. What's the reason for the open circle on cd12?

As far as how to record CF, you should record it as it is. If the wettest you get is creamy, record that. That could be your peak for now. It is fertile and you can get pg with creamy CF.

[onetwoten]

I get TONS of creamy after I O, and very little EW or watery beforehand. Haven't been pregnant thus far. hehe

Also, my temp always drops at least the morning of AF starting, though often it doesn't drop below coverline right away.

AFM: Today's temp confuses things. I was almost sure it was going to be an obvious o temp. My pre-o average this cycle (by eyeballing it) it about 97.5, taken at 7am and my temp today at 530am was 97.5. Based on previous charts, my temps usually do follow the .2 per hour.

Either way.... adjusting them both, or not adjusting them both (as I have it right now), FF (and temping common sense) says no O. I really think I have, I had EW which seems to have disappeared now, or at least gotten very scant, and I felt o type pain three days ago. *sigh* I guess I just keep waiting for more temps.

My CL last month adjusted for time (I was temping at 5am, not 7am like this month) is 97.5. That's my average temp this month. Do you think that may be what's messing things up? I'm not sure why I wouldn't have had a temp drop.

[Toolip]

Originally Posted by MarineWife

What's the reason for the open circle on cd12?

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I took my temp at 5:00 instead of 5:45...

[MarineWife]

You can't just eyeball a CL. You determine the CL by looking at the previous 6 temps, finding the highest one of those 6 and putting your CL 0.1 degree above that highest temp. It can change every time you get a new temp if you haven't Oed. I'd put your CL at 97.8 so far. If you adjust your temp today, it would be at 97.8. I wouldn't infer anything from the previous chart as to what your CL might be this cycle. Some women do have a clear pattern where their temps remain within the same range and their CLs don't vary much but that's not a hard and fast rule. Every cycle and every chart is different. You have to look at each as a separate event.

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by Toolip

I took my temp at 5:00 instead of 5:45...

So adjusted it would be somewhere between 98.0 and 98.1. That's a good indication that you Oed on cd11. However, since that temp isn't accurate you need to wait for tomorrow's temp for confirmation.

[onetwoten]

Oh sorry I didn't mean to infer that it would be the same coverline, just the fact that my temps are hovering right around where my coverline was from last month. Like if I had continued on last months chart, going in a line, most of the temps are still above that coverline and I'm on day 16 already, which is usually LP. It seems weird to me. I don't *feel* like I've been that sick, but I'm wondering if maybe I was sick enough towards the beginning of my cycle to keep my temps higher. *shrugs* Still waiting I suppose. Darn condoms.

[readytobedone]

Originally Posted by RaraAvis

Welcome On FF go to the SHARING button on the left hand side, then HOME PAGE SETUP -- on that page hit GET SHARING CODE/BUTTONS (we use bbCode Code)

AFM: Spotting, And a nice little temp drop Now, just waiting for things to really get going so I can start a new cycle!

yay for AF!

Mine came yesterday.