Charting to Avoid/Fertility Awareness, March 2010 - Page 5

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by jeninejessica

Oh sorry I didn't mean to infer that it would be the same coverline, just the fact that my temps are hovering right around where my coverline was from last month. Like if I had continued on last months chart, going in a line, most of the temps are still above that coverline and I'm on day 16 already, which is usually LP. It seems weird to me. I don't *feel* like I've been that sick, but I'm wondering if maybe I was sick enough towards the beginning of my cycle to keep my temps higher. *shrugs* Still waiting I suppose. Darn condoms.

Temping later will raise your temps. If you temped at 5:30 last cycle but are temping at 7 this cycle, that's enough to raise your temp to your CL or above from last cycle. I also wanted to add that you might be able to use the ROT to discount a few of your higher temps to make your CL this cycle lower but I don't recommend that, at least not yet. Discounting a few temps is ok but too many and your chart becomes inaccurate.

[nerdymom]

Originally Posted by MarineWife

Yeah, every person and every cycle is different. Some women always get a temp drop. Some women never do. I do sometimes but never really low. Sometimes my temps stays up above my old CL well into my new cycle.

nerdy ~ Creamy is considered fertile before O. Post-O, as long as you've had a clear sustained thermal shift, it's not. Some women claim that lots of creamy CF after O indicates pg but there isn't any significant data on that.

ok thanks! I doubt it's a sign of pg, we use condoms so I'm not worried about that.

[kcroto42]

Originally Posted by Toolip

I think that I don't get what most people call "EWCF" but I mark it on my chart when I get what I think is my most fertile cf, does that make sense?


my chart

I barely get any EW per cycle at this point, which is funny, because I vaguely remember from being a kid that I used to get GOBS. Years on the pill, pregnancy, nursing, and a hormonal IUD all seem to have made some pretty interesting changes to my body. I'd say just mark it down as you get it; according to TCOYF, some women never really get any EW at all.

AFM, FF gave me hatched crosshairs this morning. I think it's full of crud; would I really still be having watery CF this many days after O?

Your opinion needed, please! All the open circles are due to late temps, around 7am instead of 5:30. The two year old has not had a great month thus far.

The explanation of why is a whole TLR, but this is not a month when I'm okay with an oops. Any time between next month and when we actually start ttc in the summer, an oops is something I could handle, but this month, I would be really stressed out. So there are no potential "events" to be worried about at this point, just trying to confirm O so I can stop worrying.

[lyterae]

Originally Posted by kcroto42

Your opinion needed, please! All the open circles are due to late temps, around 7am instead of 5:30. The two year old has not had a great month thus far.

Last month I had fertile CM all through my LP.. I would wait at least one more day because of the missed temps to confirm O. There is definitely a temp shift that took place though.

AFM: CD 14, still nothing terribly exciting going on. Waiting to O!

[MarineWife]

kc ~ I agree that you can't confirm O with that data. Which O detector do you have the s/w set to? I think it's possible you Oed on cd13 or 14 but with that one missing temps there's no way to know at this point. Right now I'd put your CL at 98.0. If you have one more temp above that, I'd feel pretty comfortable that you Oed one either cd13 or 14, like I said.

AFM, I'm trying not to get my hopes up again because this has happened so many times this cycle already, but I got a high temp today. It's higher than any of my other high temps, too. So even if I leave those higher temps in, today's temp is still above my CL. Course it could just be another fluke.

My FF Chart

My Ovusoft Chart

I've been getting stressed about the baby thing lately. I thought I really wanted another baby and would be so happy if I actually had one. Lately, though, I've been thinking that I couldn't handle it, especially with my dh gone so much. It's just so much work taking care of 2 LOs and 1 adult child on my own. I'm so tired of doing everything for everyone all the time. I haven't been eating much so much so that I think I've lost weight. After struggling for months to try to lose a few pounds I now seem to be losing it without doing anything, just being stressed. My dh tries to understand but since he's never taken care of all the kids on his own for more than a couple of hours, he can't possibly know what it's like.

So the whole reason this has come up for me now is because of my dh's visit in April. Originally, it looked like good timing for TTA because I was going to be post-O, possibly having (kind of a bummer but at least I wouldn't have to think about things). Now that this cycle is dragging I have no idea where I'll be in my cycle when dh comes home. Then I have to think about what I want to do. Do I tell dh he needs to prevent or do I just let things happen? If I got pg in April, I'd have the baby in late December/early January. My dh will most likely be deployed again. Then again, he'll probably deployed at some point in the first year of any baby we might have within the next couple of years. I just don't know what I want.

Sorry for the rant. Thanks for reading.

[OSUvet]

I got my first cross-hairs!!

Today FF gave me cross-hairs confirming that I O'ed on CD14.My Ovulation Chart
I am really excited to see how nice my chart is looking so far, for my first cycle off the pill in so long and my first cycle charting ever. I am also excited because my fertility signs were quite clear, and I was 90% sure I had O'ed on CD14 even before I saw my temp rise the next day. I had definite EWCM and cramps/O pain on the right side. I am starting to think I can figure all this out!!

So now... I guess I am sorta in tww territory since I know its *possible* I could be pregnant this cycle.

[Kimmiepie]

Hi ladies!!

I have been gone for so long. I had a lot going on around here, and then I got the worst mastitis of my entire life. I actually had to eventually get antibiotics (which I haven't had in over 5 years). It was awful.

Of course it happened right in the middle of ovulation. I have NO idea whether I ovulated or not!! http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2be681 The days that are recorded as Eggwhite (which I never get) I'm not sure really are eggwhite. It was basically this "snotty" consistency. Sorry TMI. I usually feel patches of wetness after O but I don't usually check the consistency or anything once I've noticed a sustained thermal shift. This time since my temps were so off due to illness (the missing temps were 100.8, 98.6 and something else) I can't tell when the thermal shift started.

Any ideas?

Welcome to the new people!

ETA: The 97.7 temp may have been a slight temp still.

[Toolip]

FF gave me crosshairs this morning Didn't expect to O that early

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b6757

[MarineWife]

Yep, that looks like O, Toolip and OSUvet.

Kim ~ I think it's possible you Oed on cd23 but with those missing temps, as you know, you can't be sure yet.

[lyterae]

Wowie, everybody is ovulating or getting ready to! I hope I join the ranks soon.

MW: I can only imagine how difficult parenting with your DH deployed is, I remember the first year with Becca my DH would commonly work from 8 am till 8 or 9pm and I thought it was AWFUL. I think it takes a very special kind of person to hold a home together like you do. I'm also crossing my fingers that O has finally happened for you!

OSuvet: Yay for O!

Kimmie: If you discard that 97.7 does it give you cross-hairs? I don't know that you'll be able to tell when you ovulated this cycle (I hate sickness right during ovulation!) You will at least be able to say that you HAVE ovulated and are "safe" again.

Toolip: Another earlier one! Wow, CD12 ovulation. Can I join that party?

[kcroto42]

Originally Posted by MarineWife

kc ~ I agree that you can't confirm O with that data. Which O detector do you have the s/w set to? I think it's possible you Oed on cd13 or 14 but with that one missing temps there's no way to know at this point. Right now I'd put your CL at 98.0. If you have one more temp above that, I'd feel pretty comfortable that you Oed one either cd13 or 14, like I said.

I have the detector set to Advanced; I don't generally mess with it. I tried, just to see, and it didn't change anything...not sure if I was doing it right. It's that kind of day.

I hear you about the wanting a baby but concerned about having a baby thing. I sat down with our budget last night, because we paid off a bunch of debt with our tax refund. I was shocked -- SHOCKED -- to find out how much money we were wasting each month on coffee and fast food and crap. No idea at all how to fix it. I feel so incredibly irresponsible; we should have a down payment by now. Sigh. Oh well. No time like the present to change, right?

[MarineWife]

kc ~ You tried it on FAM and still got the same thing? I generally stick with FAM because it's seems to be more accurate most of the time. Rarely, Advanced is more accurate. Sometimes both are wrong. The s/w can only do so much based on how it's programmed.

My dh wastes a lot of money on little stuff. I've tried to get him to stop over the years but it hasn't seemed to work. We put ourselves on a weekly cash allowance. We each get the same amount (which really isn't fair anymore since he's only paying for himself while I'm paying for myself and 3 kids but that's another issue) and can spend it on whatever we want. My dh's problem is that whenever he thinks he needs something else for work or home he uses the debit or credit card. It's usually things like pens and CDs and medicines. It drives me crazy because we have a ton of that stuff laying around the house not being used but he doesn't look for it. Just decides he needs it and buys more. We're terrible at putting money in our savings. However, I'm trying to pay off the CCs and all the financial planners say it's better to use all your money to pay of those rather than saving any because the interest rate on the CC balance is so much higher than the interest earned on savings.

I fiddled with my chart to see what my future cycles look like if I did O yesterday. Sure enough, FF predicts that I will O again around Easter weekend, which is when dh is planning to come home. *sigh I was just thinking, though, that we may not be able to afford him coming home right now.

[Kimmiepie]

Thanks guys!

That's basically my main issue, I just want to know that I did indeed O so that we can stop using bc.

If I discard the 97.7 temp I still don't get cross hairs. It's okay, I'll just have to wait it out.

[lyterae]

Some spotting today, I'm not expecting to O for at least another... 4 days.

[onetwoten]

Weird. Do you usually spot around o? I never do, so I would be freaking out trying to figure out what's different.

[BettinaAuSucre]

Do I still belong here if i get an IUD? I am on Depo right now as a precaution until I get my IUD and i obviously don't need to chart anymore i dont feel right sticking around if i dont need to talk about my charting..

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by lyterae

Some spotting today, I'm not expecting to O for at least another... 4 days.

Spotting pre-O is considered very fertile.

[onetwoten]

AHHHH! I just spend probably close to an hour transposing last months chart next to this one, searching symptoms, lokoing at things from different angles etc.... all confused because by all rights I *should* have o'ed by now.

And then I just realized I had it set to advanced, not FAM. I guess when I was playing with it the other day I left it on advanced.

FAM gave me my crosshairs, exactly when they make sense. It's a very very small temp rise, especially for me, but I'll take it.

[MarineWife]

Originally Posted by jeninejessica

FAM gave me my crosshairs, exactly when they make sense. It's a very very small temp rise, especially for me, but I'll take it.

I'm not convinced. I don't think it's clear with either FAM or NFP rules. I'd wait for a few more high temps to be sure. If you've had at least 4 consecutive days of CF dry up, you can consider yourself safe every other day as long as you stay dry. However, without a clear thermal shift, creamy is not considered dry up. It's considered still possibly fertile.

[lyterae]

Originally Posted by jeninejessica

Weird. Do you usually spot around o? I never do, so I would be freaking out trying to figure out what's different.

There's one other month that I charted and had some spotting prior to ovulation. Just hanging out waiting to confirm ovulation and move on with life again. I'm trying really hard to stay positive this cycle and not drive myself (or my husband) crazy.

As an aside I have to say I really love this smilie: