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Having a new baby in about 7 months - your advice on what/how to change with nighttime stuff?

post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 
Let me start by saying I *know* that lots of things can and WILL change in the next 7 months, but I'm a planner and just need to get a sense of what ways I might gently encourage some changes in my son's habits/expectations, and what I should perhaps just accept as probably being less-than-ideal when the new baby arrives.

Current nighttime routine/happenings:


DS (23 months) nurses while we sing songs, usually has a snuggle with me, and then gets a hug and kiss before DH gets him to sleep in the Ergo (we've tried having DH just snuggle him, we've tried both of us or just me snuggling him to sleep - he cannot relax. He gets more and more wired and I often end up getting head-butted in the nose!). He usually falls asleep between 8:30 and 9. He's up at about 2AM and I have decided to nightwean him (because I've NO clue how I'd manage two nighttime nursers...), so I currently do not nurse him until about 4. So I go in and snuggle him at 2AM and am generally in there for the night (DH has tried to snuggle him back to sleep for this wake-up, but it involves a lot of screaming and I can hear it all through earplugs, so we'll try it periodically but for now it does not work).

He generally wakes to nurse at 4AM, sometimes not until closer to 6. Then he generally nurses around 6AM and is up for the day around 7AM (with another nursing).

My concerns:
So, obviously the first thing I'm working on is nightweaning - but very slowly. I'll probably push back the first night nursing by an hour a month and hope we don't get "stuck." Allowing me to not nurse him when he wakes up is a huge step for DS, so I'm trying not to push him too hard and end up with him resisting altogether. Before when we've tried this, there was clawing and screaming and he would get more hysterical than I've ever seen him otherwise!

Even if he nightweans, though...I won't be able to keep going in there and snuggling him back to sleep through wake-ups once the new baby arrives. I'm open to bringing him into my bed, but I don't think that will help (right now it doesn't work because I end up wedged between him and DH - add a newborn who needs to nurse on both sides and a mom who never figured out how to nurse with the "top" boob and it's just a disaster). I keep coming back to DS needing to learn to go back to sleep with DH instead of me.

Should I finish nightweaning him and see if he just wakes up less, and THEN address having DH go to him for nightwakings? Or should we sort of wait him out and have DH stay with him if he wakes up before he will get to nurse, so do them both at the sort of the same time? I'm fairly certain DS just won't sleep if DH goes in there even for a couple/few hours. He is pretty impressively stubborn (my kid...). And if he's not sleeping, no one will sleep because I can hear him from my bed.

Any thoughts/advice from mamas of 2 or more?
post #2 of 8
I remember how nerve racking that is thinking of how it will all work out. I think if you can night wean he may sleep through the night and then you wouldn't have to worry about it. I say that because at almost 2yo my DS woke every 2 hrs to nurse and as soon as he weaned he sttn. I don't get it but...

It will work out, it always does and in 7 months he will be able to under stand things better, like dad needs to cuddle you so mommy can rest and be able to take good care of you tomorrow.

Good luck and congrats on the pregnancy.
post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the encouragement. We're having a really hard time. DS is going through another verbal explosion, and the nightweaning is suffering as a result.

I'm exhausted and cranky and I just want some freaking space. I'm so tired of being screamed at all night and then having to be nurturing during the day.
post #4 of 8
Your feelings are very valid, I remember feeling the same way. Very touched out. I hope things start getting better for you guys. I wish I had amazing advise that would really help, but hopefully someone will and stop by and give you helpful advise.
post #5 of 8
Well I don't have too much in the way of a solution for you...but I do understand what you are going through completely !

When I was expecting my DS, my DD was about 2. she nursed ALL night long, I had to go in just like you and nurse back to sleep, etc. WOULD NOT accept DH. I tried everything. NCSS, Jay Gordon...you name it. I was so worried about when the baby would come! How would she sleep??? I went into early labor and they really had a hard time getting it to stop...I decided to do everything in my power, including stopping the night nursing. One night I just had to tell her "no" and briefly explained to her it made mama's belly hurt. I can't remember the details too well, I was probably sleep deprived! But I will tell you she never night-nursed again. I really do believe it will work out.
I am trying to take my own advice now...as my DS is 16 months and I am 9 weeks pregnant. I am already trying to "figure it all out"...who's gonna get which kid to sleep, etc. In the end, it will work out (I HOPE!) We are in the process of slowly nightweaning and trying to keep him in his room all night. So far, not so bad !

Good luck...and please keep us posted.
post #6 of 8
Thread Starter 
Thank you for any advice and experience! I think nighttime is what I'm worried about most - especially because it looks like my husband won't be able to take time off after this baby is born, but will need to keep working in at least some capacity. So we need nights to be bearable for him

Ugh - I love my son so much, and I hate to have him screaming, but I think we're going to have to just wait him out. I'm thinking that once I'm done nightweaning, I may go sleep at a friend's house so that DS can see I am not here and will not be rescuing him - that I am really not an OPTION!
post #7 of 8
I'm there with you too - baby due in October, DS (26 months) still cosleeping, though he is mostly nightweaned now. Though it doesn't mean he sleeps through any more! We used Jay Gordon's plan to get us to cut all nursing between bedtime at 8pm and 4am... but at that 4am wake up I have to nurse him or he jsut doesn't go back to sleep and that's us up for the day!!! Argh. Can't handle that ATM so am continuing to nurse then.

Like you a big problem for us is that no-one but me has ever put DS to sleep or comforted him during the night. I'll be gone from home for at least 3 or 4 nights when I have this baby (standard here in France) so someone else - whether DH or my mum - will have to get him to bed and sleeping somehow. I think like you we'll just have to bite the bullet and I will go out for the evening and DH will have to work it out!

it'll all work out in the end - most things do! Hard for us planners to accept that though!
post #8 of 8
Thread Starter 
Chocolatefish- I will be gone for at least 2 days, but potentially longer because of some risks I have that would require postpartum treatment.

Luckily our hospital allows ALL of the family to stay over - so DS and my husband could both stay in the room....though DH and I have discussed the fact that there is no way I could cuddle DS and a new baby in a hospital bed!
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