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AmandaHope - In looking at your chart, I also think you ovulated on CD19. CD20's temp is higher than the last 9 temps, if you take out CD18. I'm guessing you ovulated sometime during the evening/night of CD19, which could technically be considered CD20 if it were after midnight. I'm sure your timing was excellent! Sit back and (try to) relax for a while.

AmyPDX -

escher - I'm following many of Brill's suggestions, too. that it works for both of us!

chiquitayy - DP and I love Asheville! We celebrated our anniversary there last year. I only wish it were closer... We're about 6 1/2 hours away. Maybe the next time we're in town, we could get together (with our babies!).

wehrli - After gaining all this knowledge about our own fertility, it's just too hard to ignore it! Don't stress; I'm sure everything will work out just the way it's supposed to.

Coco - Thinking of you and DP.

giggle - Here's to a fresh, new cycle! Good luck!

QOTD - This board is my most obsessive thing... So far.
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AFM[/B]: Housemate and I drove to Asheville yesterday to look for a new place—we're planning to move there at the end of May. Found a few nice ones, but definitely have more work to do. Neither of us has found a job yet, but I haven't been applying for everything in sight yet—I'm still limiting myself to things I'd really like as opposed to anything in the hospital!
I AM SOOOO JEALOUS We love Asheville
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AmandaHope - In looking at your chart, I also think you ovulated on CD19. CD20's temp is higher than the last 9 temps, if you take out CD18. I'm guessing you ovulated sometime during the evening/night of CD19, which could technically be considered CD20 if it were after midnight. I'm sure your timing was excellent! Sit back and (try to) relax for a while.
Thanks, AMom! I'm just going to go in and change my O date manually. I took the morning off and did yoga with a fabulous local teacher. And now the sun is out--yay! So relaxation it is. ;-)
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I'm Baaaack!

So, I'm back and ttc. We got pregnant on the second try in June and we were due 4/4/10, but had a miscarriage at 20 wks. Well, we have been seeing the fertility doc since last week and hope to inseminate tomorrow or Wednesday.

When I got pregnant, we inseminated on day 15 of my cycle on a Sunday. Well this past Sunday was day 15 but my hormones say it's not time yet. Tomorrow is day 17 and it seems odd that my body's not ready but I'm stil positive about a positive pg test.

So, hello to those I haven't met and to those I have. I hope to not be here long!
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Welcome Kimlyn ~~ here's hoping for a short stay
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I agree that the bill has some serious limitations and failures, especially for women, immigrants, and queer folks, among others. But it is am important start, in my opinion.
i am totally with you! many people have bad things to say about it and i agree it's not perfect but i think it is a gigantic step in the right direction!!
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kimlyn, welcome back! i'm so sorry for your loss... may there be great happiness in your lives again soon.
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to anyone who wants me to add your chart or if i have missed an update for you, please post in bold.

have a great day!
post #209 of 302
Hi Everyone,

Welcome, Kimlyn! I'll hope for a short and sweet stay for you here.

Wehrli--how are you feeling about your appointment tomorrow?

AFM: I'm starting to second guess our planned timing. We were thinking we were going to do one IUI the day AFTER my Clearblue monitor first said peak and another one the day after that (so on the second day Clearblue says peak and the day they say high), but now I'm wondering if we should do one on each of the peak days instead. Any thoughts? Thank you!
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Since it seems many of us are around the same cycle and will be testing the first week of April there is very little going on. I am dying here with no-one to talk to ...
So I will post another QOD -
How did you choose which DP was going to carry? (sorry sarahcecile to exclude )

For us it was rather simple. I was the oldest. I will be 34 in May and I don't need the pressure from the OB about a high risk pregnancy once I turn 35. I am already quite fluffy so I get enough greif.
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Hee hee, thanks for thinking of me Painearia, that actually makes me feel very included!

I am 9dpo, and my ability not to obsess is starting to fail. I would have tested by now in any other cycle, but I don't even have a test in the house, so go me. The chicks have been a marvelous distraction. They arrived yesterday and they are so so so cute. It's like chick tv in the garage right now and whenever I start to think about maybe those nipple twinges being SOMETHING, or the cramping, or the painful pulling sensations I had yesterday... I force myself to think about sweet baby chickens instead, and what we need to finish with their coop or the garden, etc.

So far so good.

escher12 - no clue. I use a monitor but I always insem. the two peak days. I have been thinking that I would like to insem. the day before that as well, to have swimmers waiting when the egg pops out. We are going to try to do that next cycle (but of course I hope that there won't be another cycle for a loooong time). What does your temp do in relation to what your monitor says?

kimlyn I'm so sorry for your loss. I hope you have a rainbow baby on the way very soon.
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Painefaria--thanks for the QOTD! I've always wanted to be pregnant, and until recently my wife wasn't especially interested in it. We did think quite a bit about if she should carry the first child since I have more experience caring for babies and I can imagine I might initially take the lead with that regardless of who birthed the kid. But we decided that since I want to be pregnant and she isn't sure, I should go first. We are tentatively planning for her to carry the second one.

Sarahcecile--your chicks sound great. What a perfect distraction! When are you planning to test?

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escher12 - no clue. I use a monitor but I always insem. the two peak days. I have been thinking that I would like to insem. the day before that as well, to have swimmers waiting when the egg pops out. We are going to try to do that next cycle (but of course I hope that there won't be another cycle for a loooong time). What does your temp do in relation to what your monitor says?
I tend to get my temp rise the day after the High day that follows the two peak days, which makes me think that I ovulate on the High Day (so it goes Peak, Peak, High (and presumed ovulation), Temp Rise). But then I was wondering if maybe I really ovulate on the second peak day and just have a delayed temp rise? I'm totally overthinking this.
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how can you not over think it?!

my monitor reads peak (O), peak (temp rise), high... funny how different it can be for others, eh?
we always insem'd on day before peak (at brills recomendation) and morning of [first] peak. that was ivi... this cycles completely different.

as for QOTD, i have always wanted to experience pregnancy while DP feels like it's a foreign concept. however, DP would really love to see what a "baby her" would look/be like, i have absolutely no attachment to the DNA of the baby. i would ideally carry her baby but until IVF is necessary for me (hopefully not ever), it costs too much money.

afm, i am excited about my appt... i can feel my R follie growing everyday (it was the larger follie on my last u/s)... i am hoping to have an IUI this friday at 7am... can't wait to be in the TWW!
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escher, it looks like you have a temp rise, other than your last cycle, on the second day after your peak. My guess is that you O sometime in the afternoon/evening of your second peak reading. Maybe I'm just influenced by my own cycle, but if I were you, I would do one in the morning 24 hours after the first peak, and then another one 8-12 hours after that. I think waiting until the 'high' day might be a little late. Isn't timing fun?
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escher - in looking at your chart, I would also say to insem on your two peak days, or early in the morning on the second peak day, then later that evening. Like quasar said, except for last cycle, waiting until the high day would've been too late. That's just my two cents!

kimlyn - Welcome back! Hopefully you're not with us long!

saracecile - Your chicks sound adorable! What a lovely distraction they must be. We've started a garden this spring, and it's helped the time to pass. I'm hoping it will bring some stress relief when I go into my 2ww!

QOTD - My answer pretty much mirrors wehrli's. I have always wanted to be a mother, and I've always wanted to feel the joys of pregnancy. DP has gone back and forth over her lifetime about wanting kids, but the idea of carrying a child is very foreign to her. I think she considered it briefly, but decided it's just not in her. On the other hand, she really wishes she could share a genetic bond with our child. This is her main concern these days, actually. I was thinking of starting a new thread about it, but maybe I'll ask you guys first:

Are there any nonbio moms out there who can provide some support/advice for my DP? She's already worried about when the child will start to ask about his/her donor, and she thinks the child will then think she is not their mother. She is worried, and probably rightfully so, that society will also not consider her a mother. She hates the idea of our offspring thinking of the donor as a long-lost father. She joked rather angrily that she wishes she could be a sperm donor, because we put them up on this pedestal, and they do very little in return. She says society teaches us genetics is more important than family. To sum it up, I think she feels very threatened by the donor. We've talked to another lesbian family in the area, and they tell their children (ages 4 & 6) that their dad lives in California and they can meet him when they turn 18. DP hates this! She's also read stories of donor-conceived children searching for their "dads" online. I told her it all boils down to how we raise our kids and what we teach them. I told her we'll explain it like donating blood or plasma or bone marrow, etc. She still thinks it will still come to a point where the child will be yelling at her, "you're not my mom!" This is her biggest worry about having a child this way, and I feel awful because I can't relate to it. If it weren't so expensive/complicated, I would jump at the chance to to IVF with her eggs. I just want a baby!
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Howdy howdy howdy. Y'all are jumping.

As for the question of the day, I am older than DP, have 2 kids already, I'm settled and grown up, have a good job, a house and supportive family. I decided to have a baby on my own, meeting DP (Sara) was just bad timing. She is 22 and on a routine medication she can't take while pregnant. So, I'm having a baby, and she is in the strange position of being along for the ride. She very much wants a baby, knows she can't get pregnant at this stage of her life and plans to get pregnant in 2 years or so. She also plans to stick around forever, in which case, this would be her kid, too. I did mention that I already had forever and it didn't work out and I'm unwilling to share custody of a child before she's weaned, should that event ever come up again. That sounds cold doesn't it? *sigh* It may be cold, but the relationship is still so new (14 months) that it seems insane to plan a future on what it will turn into. In all fairness, my kids' mom and I were together 13 months before I decided to get knocked up the first time, but I was young and irrational then!

saracecile, Chicks rock! My girls are 2 weeks old and can already fly out of the brooder box. They are barred rock bantams, super cute! If you figure out how to keep bedding out of their water, let me know. (oh, and how many Saras are TTC now? I'm another!)


AmandaMom, The DP non-genetic thing is hard. To start, my kids have blue eyes and their other mom has brown. She has gotten some pretty confused people when they used to ask, "oh, he's beautiful, is he yours? (yes) Oh, his eyes are lovely, do you have contact lenses in them? (infant)" So anything can tip people off, it's crazy. I don't think she gets much of that now that we're seperated, tho. Not that that's any help to your DP! But kids following you around calling you mom always prevents people from asking. On the positive side, at 7 and 4, the kids know that a donor gave us a gift to help make a baby, and they know that gift was sperm - so my coworkers are nervous inviting them to their kids' birthday parties. DS's donor is frozen and he hasn't the slightest interest. Every now and then we joke that maybe his ID number was 626 (stitch from Lilo and stitch is refered to as experiment 626). They use the word donor, tho. DD (4), will occasionally even say, "______ is my donor who helped make me and he has blue eyes and Baba has blue eyes and that's why I have blue eyes." A while ago DS said "Mama isn't my real mom, she didn't give birth to me." I know she was upset about that. (We were looking into adoption around the same time and I ask him what it meant to be a mom, and if a child came to live with us and I took care of her every day and read her stories and kissed her boo-boos, wouldn't I be her mom just like I was his? He agreed that I would be her mom in addition to her birth mom [he just couldn't give up that biological connection, doesn't feel that way about dads, tho.] and I asked him how he felt about his situation and remind him who taught him to read and who loves him with all her heart, and he recognized that indeed, she was his real mom. At that same time I gave him the word "biological" to explain the difference) At the same time, they can't really remember who gave birth to DD, and they ask frequently. I think that's because he is the spitting image of me and hears that all the time. We were really worried about "society" not recognizing her as their mom, so they got her last name and it has been no end of confusion, partially because there is a single letter difference between the 2 names. My dad still sends them cards with my last name. My health insurance company and doctors office can't figure it out, either. I don't think there is any way to really feel prepaired to be the non-bio mom. But I think once she is getting puked on and pooped on, well, it becomes undeinable.
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Escher I'm with the others; I'd stick with the two peak days. Stuff I've been reading (Brill and online, peer-reviewed studies) suggest strongly that with IVI, getting in an insem the day *before* O is very important. I think you probably just have a "slow rise" (so do I...I think...although I've also been over-thinking this, if you see recent posts).

Wehrli Yay for big, ripe follicles and a Friday IUI!

SaraCecile Those "pulling" feelings sound really promising! I'm excited for you! When are you going to test?

Kimlyn Welcome, and congratulations on getting through the incredible pain and difficulty of your loss...and being ready to try again. Good luck!

Painefaria It *has* been quiet around here!

QOTD Like several of your DPs, my DP never felt strongly about having children and was uninterested in the physical experience of pregnancy...which is GOOD, for two reasons:

1) Six months after we got together in 1994, she was diagnosed with stage 4 non-Hodgkins Lymphoma. She had a 30% chance of survival and underwent radiation, chemo, and a stem cell transplant (with me at her side when I was 19!) over 1 1/2 years, and is lucky to be alive. Her oncologist happened to mention, one day, "You know you'll soon be sterile, right?" It is a good thing that she wasn't planning to have biological kids!

2) Because I always really wanted to be pregnant and nurse and would be horribly jealous if I had to share those experiences. I'm so grateful that despite her reluctance, we are moving forward with having a second child and that I get to do it all again.

AmandaMom I think that what you are describing is very common among non-bio moms. Here is a book for you (and her): Confessions of the Other Mother: Non-Biological Lesbian Moms Tell All . It is on Amazon. Hope it helps.

AFM 5 dpo...I don't feel a thing. Nada. And my temp is more consistent than it has ever been (exact same temp 3 days in a row). Sigh.
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Thank you all! We got the call from the doc today that the blood test says it's a go tomorrow. So, we are going to travel to the office where the dr we prefer to see is and do the iui. If we conceive this time around, we will still be able to have a baby this year!

Please send your prayers up for us.
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3dpo? 4dpo?

AmandaHope--I don't feel a thing now either--I don't know how I am going to not test, except that I will be at my parents house all of next week

QOTD--DP is still active reserve in the military and would much rather work than stay home--we just lucked out that we both get to do the part that we want as we start our family!

Kimlyn--welcome back, hope your stay is short with no further returns!
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QOTD - AmandaHope said it well - because I've always always wanted to be pregnant, and would be a bit jealous if it weren't me. DP doesn't have much interest in carrying either (we plan to have two eventually), but she's happy to step in should we find out I can't (or would require too much intervention). It's a good arrangement for us both--I've looked forward to this all my life, and she's incredibly supportive of how I want to experience this (midwife, home birth, very low intervention and unmedicalized).

I also know I probably wouldn't be as great a partner to her if the roles were reversed. She's not a big fan of nausea, pain, etc, and is a little less of a trooper in these situations than I am, which--I'm ashamed to admit--tries my patience (I'll be blunt - she whines! I love her, but I'd go nuts doing so much hand holding for nine months). She's also likely opt for a higher level of medical involvement than I would, which would probably drive me up the wall. I'm more than a bit type A, so carrying the babe puts me in the drivers seat for this stuff. Yeah, I can be really fun to live with.

As for the non-bio mom stuff, it's incredibly important to me that we create as cohesive a family as possible. I'm white and DP is not; we chose a donor that reflects her heritage (which means we had 6 options in the whole country! I think it actually made that part a lot easier). I don't ever want her to be out and about with our child and have someone question whether our son or daughter is hers; hopefully the baby will generally have characteristics that relate to each of us. I also changed my last name some time ago to my DPs, in a sign of family solidarity. We can't agree on what we'd name a boy, but at least we know what the last name will be. That should help her somewhat conservative family have an easier time processing it all, too. I know they'll love the baby, but it won't hurt that it will have their last name from day one.

In other news - 3 DPO and already going nuts with the waiting this first cycle. When we've exhausted this QOTD, I have one: What do you do to make the TWW fly by as fast as possible? Or as least to distract yourself?
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