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post #161 of 649


It's beautiful outside! And the sun is very warming!

The heavy dizzyness is from the Ibuprofen It lessened since I cut the dose to 400mg instead of the 600mg they had prescribed but I'm still dizzy... They only prescribed Codeine at night (mixed with acetaminophen) so I only have a few pills...

No fever but I felt the need to sneeze this morning and got green snot out.

I'm calling the dentist.
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Valerie - I think someone mentioned this earlier, but thought I'd second the possibility of blocked sinus. I had severe tooth/head pain a few years ago. I was sure I would need a root canal. The dentist took x-rays and they showed nothing. He sent me to an Ear, Nose and Throat specialist. Then the ENT sent me for a CAT scan. Turned out I had a completely blocked front right sinus cavity and a partially blocked left sinus. I didn't sound stuffy or anything, had no obvious sinus issues (drainage, etc.) and they were really shocked it was that bad.

Whatever it is - tooth or sinus - I certainly hope you can get it cleared up quickly and be pain free!
post #163 of 649
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That is so incredibly gothic-- I love it!
Oh, owl question: ds, in school, got to dissect owl pellets I said they're poop, but he insists the person who brought them said they come from the mouth, like hairballs. Who's right? DS or me?
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Your son wins this round. Owls eat an animal whole - no chewing or tearing usually. Stomach acid is really strong and breaks down the critter - but hair & bones don't get digested so the owl "pukes" up the pellet.
post #164 of 649
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I'd like to hear more about this. Care to elaborate?
It's kind of all the "little things". I've been not-Christian since my early teens, but didn't find anything else I liked until I was about 30. But I still find myself using very Christian-themed comments/expletives (like "my God", "oh my God", "Jesus" darn-it/damn-it) and having to work to say things like "Goddess bless" instead of "God bless" (as a default, not a specific blessing), and things like that -- things that are just "around" me or were around me growing up.

Until I was reading those second set of books -- where the main character had been Pagan all his life in an area where Pagans could all be safely out, so that appropriate to the story line he had all kinds of "everyday" Pagan things. From meal blessings, to greeting the sun in the morning, to repeated phrases that were used instead of "my God" that were themed around his flavor of Paganism. When he wanted to be sure he didn't miss-speak to a group, he'd think or say something to Ogma the honey-tounged (I think that's the right Goddess without looking it up) helping him. He'd be thinking about how nice a girl looked and would say something like "by the Cyprian foam-born how I wish..." (again, I didn't go look that up for spelling). It was just so part of the everyday, every-thought, entire life.

Then you switch over to reading say an Honor Harrington novel (which I enjoy as well), where it's a Christian world, and there are phrases like "my God" and "the master after God" (referring to the ship's captain) and it gets really noticeable how it's just everywhere.

I've always had a tendency to pick up dialect/phrases out of whatever I'm reading at the time, and found a large difference in what those phrases were, how I was thinking, feeling and expressing myself when I was reading the books that were "everyday Pagan" instead of "everyday Christian". Since most of my every-day world is in a Christian centric state/country, that's what I hear and see around me during the day and on-line as well.

I'm sure it's one of those YMMV kind of things, but it was pretty eye-opening to me how I slide out of the "Pagan" comments/thoughts habits when it's not reinforced all the time.

I'm not much for sticking little notes all over the house (where in the kids art that's all over the house would it go anyway?) but I've been trying to think about how to have little reminders and such to keep me thinking of Pagan ways to express what I'm feeling where the standard ones are Christian (or conversions of Christian ones -- Geez/Jesus, Gosh/God etc.).

I kind of think it's like when you learn a language enough to think/dream in it. I'm not that far (even after 10 years) and wondering how to get there or if it's even possible when you have to guard what you say part of the time if you don't know who is around, or especially because of who is around.
post #165 of 649
I'm back home. Phew! Long day.

I finally get to order a couple of new books from my site today. Even though ds is 7, he really wants Who's In The Garden.
Garden, animals, and peek a boo holes... what's not to love?!
post #166 of 649
garh. had a spare sec and thought i'd find something i'd wanted to reply to, but no luck. wah. i think it was something saphire said, but.... grr. no can find it. too much blabbeling on (yes, it was bring back the snakes day, btw-- i mentioned that at the beginning of the thread-- Lurve the crafting snakes idea, might try that, as i've decided to re-learn crocheting, should work, no? ) by you lot about the end of the world and other such less important topics, and how i made you all vomit.


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Valerie - I think someone mentioned this earlier, but thought I'd second the possibility of blocked sinus.
ditto this, i'd been thinking it, but figured i'd missed something, but the green snot would be a sign in my book. would cause dizzyness, too... fwiw. huge hugs.
post #167 of 649
Green snot generally equals sinus infection.
post #168 of 649
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maia, have a wonderful celebration!
Thanks, Aweyn!
I crafted a beautiful handfasting ceremony from stuff I pulled off the 'net, and stuff I added to it. I know it will be beautiful

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your DS is right. it is the stuff they cant digest. they hack it up like a hairball.
Dang. DS--1, Mom--0. He's reveling in that Still. Gross. He's convinced they come up hard. I said probably they come up soft but get hard in the preserving (or however they come by them, at his school-- EW, either way).

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But I still find myself using very Christian-themed comments/expletives (like "my God", "oh my God", "Jesus" darn-it/damn-it) and having to work to say things like "Goddess bless" instead of "God bless" (as a default, not a specific blessing), and things like that -- things that are just "around" me or were around me growing up.

Then you switch over to reading say an Honor Harrington novel (which I enjoy as well), where it's a Christian world, and there are phrases like "my God" and "the master after God" (referring to the ship's captain) and it gets really noticeable how it's just everywhere.

but I've been trying to think about how to have little reminders and such to keep me thinking of Pagan ways to express what I'm feeling where the standard ones are Christian (or conversions of Christian ones -- Geez/Jesus, Gosh/God etc.).

or if it's even possible when you have to guard what you say part of the time if you don't know who is around, or especially because of who is around.
I see what you mean. I will have to check out those books! I have been working on it for a long time, and I am actually very vigilant about moderating my language depending on the company, but really, it's not very different from moderating swear words in front of kids and grandparents

Me, I like "Jesum Crow!" which I got from a Lisa Alther novel ("Kinflicks") and also "Son of a motherless goat!" which I got from someone at PSG.

What are y'all's epithets and exclamations? Egads...what a fun topic, and I won't be on for a week *sigh*

I will send myself this link so I know what page to start from, when it's time to catch up with y'all.

YAY!!!!! Tomorrow!! :j oy

Oh, M, my love, my only true love...to be in your arms once again Yay! Catch ya when I get back, mamas!
post #169 of 649
Maia- Your ceremony will be beautiful!
post #170 of 649
Einhorn, you describe the feeling of reading The Sunrise Lands very well!

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I'm not familiar with the Crystal Web either, but I like the intent behind it. I would participate in doing such a thing for our circle. That is a really nice idea.
There is not going to be any burying of crystals in my frozen ground any time soon, but I'm going to be looking to acquire some special stones for the purpose.

I want to bury a larger quartz point in my fairy garden/altar and other protective stones around the perimeter of our property -- quarters and cross quarters, I think. If nothing else, it will help me to visualize a circle of protection when I need to feel safer. I'm thinking of those middle-of-the-nights where I hear the neighbor's dog barking, what I think is a shed door banging in the wind, and dh is away and NO WAY am I going out to investigate

And I'll have a smaller quartz point on my altar to use when I want to work with this matrix.

I also have a couple of special locations elsewhere that I'd love to bury crystals at to link them to my home.

When I have mine ready to go in the ground, maybe later this spring, I'll bring it up again for those of you who might be interested in working an MDC Pagan web. I'm imagining then that I'd light a candle for the intentions you ladies present here, meditate with my altar crystal for a moment to "activate" the idea of a link, and leave the crystal next to the candle.

I find I go through a fair lot of candles, following this thread month-to-month, lol!

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Crystal Web, from what I've heard, is very much like the "web" of lay lines. It is the interconnectedness of places of power, as well as of "BIG happenings". I guess you could call it the culmination of what was and now is of the entire planet, from an energy perspective.

Most people I know who get into this stuff are really big into healing the earth by putting positive energy into the Web. They often consider massive natural disasters to be "symptoms" of the earth being out of balance, or negatively affected.

I personally believe in the concept of the Crystal Web, but I also think that mother nature/earth isn't a happy, warm-fuzzy entity... sometimes she stretches and sometimes she reaches out an smacks something...
So I don't really think that natural disasters need us to fix her... I think they are the way she fixes herself...

Thanks for the explanation. I agree with you, and Cari and several others, about the earth being rather beyond our attempts to feed energy to her. It feels a little...I don't know...presumptuous? Still, the impulse is a noble one, I guess.

I found this link describing the Correllian Crystal Web and how to join, for anyone interested. I don't think I am interested, not now, anyway.

So, does anyone consider herself a Correllian? It seems I signed up for witchschool.com ages ago and forgot about it. I guess I should never say never, but I'm feeling really resistant to the idea of participating in or belonging to a coven or larger organization with any hierarchy whatsoever. I'm also, and this surprises me a little, feeling resistant to any Pagan paths that involve men in positions of leadership. Or even ones that involve positions of leadership. Or even ones that involve men.

I guess I feel that Paganism for me is the "unschooling" of religion, and I don't want structure. I guess I'm de-churching , and from Catholicism, too -- had enough of hierarchies and men in charge, there.

I am going to be telling my kids about the Easter Owl now, Liza! Hey, someone was trying to tell me today about rumors of a coverup of super-earthquakes in isolated areas of Alaska. I did this: and borrowed some of Wombat's info about the earth not keeping seismic secrets, especially big ones. It would be also good if I could tell this person that I know someone in Alaska, and she's still standing....

Aweyn, my kids have been singing about Sunshine, Lollypops and Rainbows all day. That was fun, thanks! But the bouncing around on the bus *did* make me a wee bit queasy, too, I have to admit.

Indigo, *there* you are!

Sunshine, it sounds like you were/are being the catalyst for some good things happening for your local pagan group. Yay, you!

Have a beautiful week, Maia

Expletives -- I've never sworn oaths on religious or spiritual figures. Just haven't.

So that leaves excrement. My kids won't even allow me to say "crap". I guess I say "Crumbs!" or for extreme situations "Cat dirt!" (borrowed from one of Tamora Pierce's characters).
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Maia- Be safe and Blessed Be.
post #172 of 649
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Valerie - I think someone mentioned this earlier, but thought I'd second the possibility of blocked sinus. I had severe tooth/head pain a few years ago. I was sure I would need a root canal. T
Yes, it could be either a blocked sinus or a severe sinus infection. I had exactly that happen about 15yrs ago, I was SURE I'd need a root canal, the pan was so severe. The dentist knew what the problem was the minute he saw me holding the side of my face.. prescribed antibiotics and in a week I was right as rain again. I really hope it could be something that simple??

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Your son wins this round. Owls eat an animal whole - no chewing or tearing usually. Stomach acid is really strong and breaks down the critter - but hair & bones don't get digested so the owl "pukes" up the pellet.
Um...EW?

I slept until 10am today hehehe, from like midnight. And omg after a week of almost no sleep, it was SO good. However half of the day is 'wasted' so I best get a move on now! Have a lovely day/evening mamas
post #173 of 649
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I am going to be telling my kids about the Easter Owl now, Liza! Hey, someone was trying to tell me today about rumors of a coverup of super-earthquakes in isolated areas of Alaska. I did this: and borrowed some of Wombat's info about the earth not keeping seismic secrets, especially big ones. It would be also good if I could tell this person that I know someone in Alaska, and she's still standing....
I'm still standing. We have lots and lots of quakes in the state (73 in lasty 48 hours) - but certainly not super-quakes. Back in 2002 we had a 7.9 - last strong one, but it was centered in a relatively remote, only a few hundred folks livung w/in 50 miles if epicenter area between Anchorage & Fairbanks. No damage here in the city - highways had the most damage - split pavement. It did some awesome natural damage though - like splitting a large glacier down the center. I could see this generating conspiracy theories. It was strong enough to be felt in Louisiana!
post #174 of 649

gross content advisory!!

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Dang. DS--1, Mom--0. He's reveling in that Still. Gross. He's convinced they come up hard. I said probably they come up soft but get hard in the preserving (or however they come by them, at his school-- EW, either way

Advance warning here - I'm just too into gross explanations:
DS:1, Mom:1. They are "soft-ish" coming up - like a cat's turd. But it has a low moisture content (like a cat's turd) and dries quickly and hardens. -The ones for sale for dissections have usually been sterilized in an autoclave so that certainly dries them out more.

Something is really wrong with me - I love talking about this stuff. Don't even get me going on poop. I love getting kids in front of a pile of poop and getting all CSI on it. I get them to dissect it, tell me what the animal ate, when he/she pooped, how big the animal is etc. I guess I'm actually a 6 year old boy.
post #175 of 649
Thanks for all your concerns! I called. They told me to switch from Ibuprofen to Acetaminophen and to continue with the atbx till I see the dentist on Monday. They will reevaluate then and, if it's not clear what is hurting, they might try another atbx (and I will ask for a referal to see someone - or go wait at our little "emergency room" in next town to get a doctor to order some testing). I won't let them drill that tooth if I'm not sure it's warranted!

I'm going to look again for Oregano Oil in the city this week-end - I've read it can do miracles on sinus infection... (but then, can I safely use this with the medication I'm taking?)


I wish I was better already. I'd love to participate to this thread for more than complaining about my health.
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I'm wondering now if "Owl Pellets!" would make a good expletive....

Liza, now you are not only my goto person about Alaskan stuff, but also about wild animal poop. What would be the grossest, most-worthy-of-being-named-in-an-expletive kind of poop, in your opinion?

ETA Anyone else with an opinion, please feel free to weigh in, of course!
post #177 of 649
Valerie - Just in case they decide to try you on another abx for sinus, the one they always prescribe for me, which is supposed to work best in these sinus issues, is called Augmentin (at least that's what it's called in the US).
post #178 of 649
Dd is entranced by Kiki's Delivery Service right now, so I'm going to take advantage of the moment and post. I always seem to drown in posts and never can keep up, so let's hope I can keep up for a bit anyway!

Einhorn's post was really interesting and got me thinking. It reminded me of something I've been wanting to ask you guys for a while now. It is about mythology - for those of you who are interested in it.

To me, Myth/Story is the most basic and fundamental way human beings learn. It's been this way for thousands upon thousands of years. We are wired to learn from Story.

So my question is this: Does it bother any of you that society uses the word "myth" to mean something that is not true, something that has no value in it at all.

I'm not saying that I believe every single word in any Mythology is truth in the sense that it actually happened just the way the story says. But real Myth/Story has such a power behind it and powerful lessons for life. To me, there is still Truth there, in an even bigger sense of the word.

I don't know if I'm explaining what I'm trying to say very well. But it just bothers me that people use that word everyday to mean something that isn't true and holds no worth. It feels like a HUGE smack to all Story in general to me, a smack to all indigenous and mythological cultures and humanity.

Anyway, I'll get off my soap box now. Just wanted to put that out there and see if anyone agrees.
post #179 of 649
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What would be the grossest, most-worthy-of-being-named-in-an-expletive kind of poop, in your opinion?
Coprolite!

Ok, it's not gross, but it is fun. People would probably have to look it up to see if they should be insulted.
post #180 of 649
Hi everyone! Remember me?

I haven't been on much at all in ages and ages. My little girl is 21 months now! My hubbie and I seperated 2 weeks ago, we are still friends, but he needs to get some stuff sorted. Although i doubt we will live together again, i live with my mum now, and have been so much happier. I also started uni on tuesday.

Much love, just wanted to see how everyone was going
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