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post #1 of 12
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Just wondering. Quick back story, my ex and I have three kids together, and have been apart for 6 years now. He has chosen tatooing as a profession, living in a small town has had a very unsteady income. He has always paid cs WHEN he was making money, and has lived with other people(friends, his mom) for all but maybe a year of the time we've been apart. Last year he opened a tattoo shop, which closed after about 6 months due to poor management. I filed for cs when he opened the shop, figuring that if he was going to be doing as good as he thought, it wouldn't be a problem, and it was no longer gonna be optional. Since then, he has paid a small percentage of what he owes. Oh and he has always taken the kids for about 2 1/2 days a week so that I can work.
Since he moved out, he has lived in 5 different houses with roomates, mostly. A few months ago, while he was living with a friend couple and there small son, he told me that he was moving once again, and that he was going to be moving in with J. J is a 'friend' of his who has shown himself to be irresponsible and chaotic in the past. I put my foot down and told him that until he had his own house or apt. the kids would stay with me full time. He can see them when he wants, but he doesnt have a car and he works and lives on the opposite side of town. So far, and it's been about a month, he has seen them once a week and always with his girlfriend. So today I asked him if he would take them thursday, since I do not yet have a sitter and him taking them would take care of that. He agreed, but then said he would not have his girlfriend with him and would be taking the bus. He then asked if he could watch them at my house. He doesn't want to have to keep them out all day, which I understand. On the other hand there was a stretch of time when I let him watch them here and it was so weird. I just felt too weird about him being in my space. So I said no. Part of why I decided to keep the kids full time, aside to keep the weirdos out of their lives, was to provide motivation for him to get his act together. If I let him watch them here it just makes it too easy for him. He can take them downtown for the day and spend some real time with them. They are off Friday, so we can all rest up then. Anyways, I feel like now that his time with them is more limited than ever, it is even more important that when he is with them HE takes responsibility for them as well as himself, and handles it, rather than once again relying on someone else to fill in where he falls short.
I'm not really asking for advice, I suppose. I feel comfortable with this. I guess I am just curious about others' opinions and experience about and with this topic. Thanks
post #2 of 12
I have let the ex watch my son at my place lots of times. Actually, every Sunday he comes over in the morning and stays part of the day while I am at work.
It is no big deal for us, only because I TRUST him. I know he will not rummage through my stuff or take anything without asking. He may eat a yogurt or some cereal but I don't mind

I think letting your ex see his children and them their dad may be worth letting him come over sometimes if you can trust him.
post #3 of 12
If I let him watch them here it just makes it too easy for him.

Making things easier for a parent to see and spend time with his children sounds like a wonderful thing.

Think about doing what is best for the children.
post #4 of 12
its called bird-nesting and many parents do it. when my exdh was in this phase (that being living with random strangers) i only let him see ds at my house, and i would usually take ds1 (not his) and go out for the day to give them some time together.
post #5 of 12
mama first you have set your boundaries and i think that's wonderful.

however there is something i have to say. ur ex is going to be who he is. u wont be able to force him to change so for your own peace of mind keep the 'hope he will change' out.

i have learnt as pp said to have to 'give in' certain things for dd to get what she wants. so the girlfriend was the ride.

and you wont let the kids stay where he is staying. does he have a room where he is staying?

if i had to put my foot down on my ex he would not have been able to see dd at his place for a year and a half. he had a room and though the roommate was not the best, it was not that bad. even now he is in a tiny place without a proper kitchen.

however you have set your boundaries and he has accepted them. that is good.

you cant fault him for the life he leads. the motivation you talk about has to come from him.

i would not let him watch the kids at my house because it would wierd me out. however if the only reason is making it too easy then that is not enough reason for me to keep him out of my house.

i have had to make life easy for him to have him more in dd's life. i know he genuinely loves his dd and tries the best within his means. he can do better for himself but chooses not to. that doesnt mean dd lose out on her dad.

*shrug* dont know. not sure why i am writing this either. i guess to tell you that i do make life easier for ex.
post #6 of 12
You will not change him. You can want him to change but that comes from him, NOT YOU.

You need to look at what is best for the kids. Sometimes making it easier on him is in you and your kids best interest.

If you trust him in your home, then it is better than all day out, poor diet, and chaos of people and places.
post #7 of 12
Well maybe I'm the odd one out, but I think it's wise to keep him out of your house. You are refusing to enable his irresponsible behaviour, and you are listening to your gut about whether you want him in your house. This is GOOD for your kids to see. The last thing they need is their mom, after six years of separation, begin rescuing their dad by taking on responsibilities that are his. They need a role model who can detach from his messy situation (wherein he's obviously making choices that are not in the best interests of his kids) and show that she is capable of taking care of herself (by not allowing someone she is uncomfortable hosting in her house to camp out in her house).

I think if you really trusted him, you wouldn't feel "so wierd" about having him care for the kids in your home.

Having said that, I think you need to stop asking him to care for the kids when you need child care. Because it sounds like this guy is really unreliable, to say the least (actually, it sounds like he may have one or more addictions--does he?), and you don't need to invite drama into your life by having to deal with all the logistics of asking a broke, virtually homeless man to act as childcare. As a pp said, you won't change him. Your boundaries aren't for that, they're for you and the kids; to keep you from taking on his stuff, and to keep the kids safe.

So... I'd say keep up the good work with the boundary-setting, and stop expecting him to step up. Find a good babysitter, and let your ex see the kids whenever he chooses to get his act together enough to do so.
post #8 of 12
It sounds like it would benefit the kids. Time with their dad and the security of being in their own home. Divorce/sharing kids tends to be all about compromise and doing what is best for the kids even if we the parents don't exactly like it.
post #9 of 12
I agree with most of this post.

I did let my ex in. I regret it and wonder how much faster he would have found another job and a stable home if I hadn't "rescued" him. The old patterns of disrespect for me resurfaced pretty quickly after the gratitude wore off (this was an abusive relationship -- ymmv.

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Originally Posted by vocalise View Post
Well maybe I'm the odd one out, but I think it's wise to keep him out of your house. You are refusing to enable his irresponsible behaviour, and you are listening to your gut about whether you want him in your house. This is GOOD for your kids to see. The last thing they need is their mom, after six years of separation, begin rescuing their dad by taking on responsibilities that are his. They need a role model who can detach from his messy situation (wherein he's obviously making choices that are not in the best interests of his kids) and show that she is capable of taking care of herself (by not allowing someone she is uncomfortable hosting in her house to camp out in her house).

I think if you really trusted him, you wouldn't feel "so wierd" about having him care for the kids in your home.

Having said that, I think you need to stop asking him to care for the kids when you need child care. Because it sounds like this guy is really unreliable, to say the least (actually, it sounds like he may have one or more addictions--does he?), and you don't need to invite drama into your life by having to deal with all the logistics of asking a broke, virtually homeless man to act as childcare. As a pp said, you won't change him. Your boundaries aren't for that, they're for you and the kids; to keep you from taking on his stuff, and to keep the kids safe.

So... I'd say keep up the good work with the boundary-setting, and stop expecting him to step up. Find a good babysitter, and let your ex see the kids whenever he chooses to get his act together enough to do so.
post #10 of 12
Wait - does he want to "move in" to your home? The answer to that would be a giant NO.

But, coming over to your house to see the kids and spend some time with them doesn't sounds like it would be too horrible. Unless you have a real reason not to trust him in your home. I've done the whole, leaving my home so that my ex could spend time with DS, and it was weird. It sucked actually - but if it was the ONLY way for my son to have a good relationship with his dad, then I would do it.

After re-reading your post, why can't he take them to the park for a few hours instead of being out with them all day? You children deserve to see their dad every week if at all possible (and he's not dangerous).

Good luck.
post #11 of 12
My ex and I are on good terms now, and feel comfortable in each others homes. Sometimes when I pick up the kids I hang out at his house for a while with him and his girlfriend.

That said, when he was 'inbetween homes' I let him watch the kids at my house. In our case it was only about a month before he found his own place.
post #12 of 12
That's what I'm hoping to be able to do. He would hang with the kids two nights a week (5 - 10) while I go to night school. That would be quality time with them including dinner and putting to bed. He'll probably be in a roommate situation and who knows what that household will be like. Plus I think it would be easier on the kids to stay in one place then to have to move back and forth all the time.
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