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help me help my constantly ill nephew.

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
ETA: we refer to him as a nephew because he's the same age as our kids.. so even though he's DHs first cousin, we refer to him as a nephew. I hope that makes sense.

*sigh* this is half ranting.. so I apologize.

My husband's cousin (so, our girls' second cousin) is about 18 months old. He is constantly sick- constantly! They are very mainstream, his mother always keeps him with his grandmother (DHs grandmother), they vax, he eats junk food (soda, chips, whole uncooked hot dogs), doesn't eat balanced, and hardly goes outside (and when he does he's heavily wrapped up in coats and blankets, even in 50 degree weather). He was breastfed for two weeks only because it was "a pain". Needless to say, he has a horribly weak immune system. He is constantly sick.

This child, I assume, needs supplementation with vitamins or some other kind of supplements.. because they just don't give him adequate nutrition and he;s exposed to all sorts of nasty stuff.

Anything I can do? Nobody will hear me out about the diet and not vaxing (I have trouble stopping DHs family from shoving pop and candy down MY daughter's throat.. another nephew once got a big swig of alchohol from FIL, and they got DH drunk on purpose as a toddler..). I've also been flamed by the family by not vaxing because of a distant family member that didn't get a vaccine and died (of a non related illness... my in laws just don't get how things work). Anyways... how can I help a fully vaxed child who eats almost ALL nutritionally void food?
post #2 of 20
i cant help, but just wanted to say we do the same thing with my cousins. my son is 2.5, their son is 7 and daughter is almost 1, and we unintentionally settled into "aunt and uncle"
post #3 of 20
Honestly, there is nothing you can do except lead by example and put your own value judgements aside as much as possible. Try to be more open and level-headed with them and they may come around to see things your way.

As for intentionally giving a toddler alcohol, that is child abuse and should be reported.
post #4 of 20
ITA with the alcohol!

I know a kid like that too--goes to daycare, fully vaxed *constantly* on antibiotics for something or another. The older siblings played with my kids but the baby hardly ever came out because of constant ear infections they feared would be worse. Sad.
post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 
Well, the alchohol with my DH was a looong time ago, and with the other cousin was a year and a half ago.

My MIL actually enlisted my help a bit on this.. I was talking to her about my daughter, who is sick right now (actually both of my DDs are) and she brought this up, and asked me what I thought we could do (aside from the not vaxing, feeding him wholesome food.... because *of course* her kids survived ).
post #6 of 20
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Originally Posted by WindyCityMom View Post
Well, the alchohol with my DH was a looong time ago, and with the other cousin was a year and a half ago.

My MIL actually enlisted my help a bit on this.. I was talking to her about my daughter, who is sick right now (actually both of my DDs are) and she brought this up, and asked me what I thought we could do (aside from the not vaxing, feeding him wholesome food.... because *of course* her kids survived ).
Ahhh I see, you have been summoned for help. I would look at food allergies. Adress all the major ones like milk, wheat, eggs. Then I would look at diet and encourage fruit/veggie whole foods. And lifestyle, getting the kid oudoors.
post #7 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks I tried putting him in DD2's playgroup for the park district's spring session. They conveniently "forgot" to register him, after I attempted and online reg. was full (DD got in, but he didn't). It would have been awesome because I'd walk there with the two kids and my baby.. it's a pretty long walk, and everyone would get adequate outdoorsy time. The playgroup, being in springtime also spends time outside so that would've been nice.... but of course, it was "forgotten".

He spends huge chunks of time here at our house (DHs mom lives upstairs, his grandma lives upstairs from her) and I try to get him into our house for playtime as much as possible during the winter. They're usually reluctant to allow him (not sure why... possibly because I'm a young mama), but when he does come I try and get him to eat healthy things with DD and engage him in nice activities.. he's just not.. I don't even know how to describe it.

He was late on hitting all of his milestones, they don't engage this child at all. He didn't know what a crayon was and bit a huge chunk out of one He won't eat any fruits or veggies that I give him.... his diet is mainly ritz crackers, chips, cold hot dogs, soda, and candy. And huge amounts of cow's milk. It's not a wonder why he won't eat anything nutritious.. and I've mentioned the milk thing. Fallen on deaf ears.

I think he has sensory issues (SPD runs in the family, 2 members diagnosed, my DD is being evaluated) but most of the family thinks it is a "made up" thing that parents use as an excuse for their kids being unruly or different. So it's a no go there. He had texture issues with foods since he was little. When he was a year old he was still eating purees- it's not like he was fully breastfed or anything. He just didn't like textures.

He also doesn't speak- not one word, and is extremely high needs. There's issues upon issues here.. and I feel that adequate nutrition would be a good start. Unfortunately it's not against the law to give your kids junk.

I'm almost ready to refer her to our family doc (she's wonderful, very natrual minded).
post #8 of 20
In SoCal, I took DS out wearing what I thought was appropriate clothing for 50 degree weather (long-sleeved sweatshirt and pants)-- a million people stopped me on the sidewalk and chewed me out for NOT wrapping him in heavy coats and blankets, saying he'd get hypothermia. I was seriously worried someone would call the authorities about it. (Before California, I'd lived in Michigan, so my standards were probably more like yours.) Is the nephew's mother from southern California by any chance?

The diet you describe isn't great, obviously, but there are many children who eat like that without being behind on milestones or getting sick much. And certainly most children are vaccinated and don't have the kind of health problems you describe. So has this nephew been to the doctor about his frequent illnesses? If so, what was the outcome of that?
post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by WindyCityMom View Post
He was late on hitting all of his milestones, they don't engage this child at all. He didn't know what a crayon was and bit a huge chunk out of one He won't eat any fruits or veggies that I give him.... his diet is mainly ritz crackers, chips, cold hot dogs, soda, and candy. And huge amounts of cow's milk. It's not a wonder why he won't eat anything nutritious.. and I've mentioned the milk thing. Fallen on deaf ears.
I hear that you're concerned, but paragraphs like this make me feel like you may be focused on the wrong stuff.

Milestones are based on averages. Some kids hit early, some hit late, some are all over the map. If this child's parents are concerned, they could get in touch with Early Intervention and request an evaluation, and that would be my first suggestion. it is a mistake to compare any two children and conclude, as a result of that very limited comparison, that one child is behind.

The world is full of people who munched on crayons as toddlers. I assure you that plenty of those people knew full well, when they took the first bite, what crayons are for.

Lots of toddlers are picky eaters. Their pickiness is directly responsible for the invention of children's multivitamins. Unless a test reveals an allergy or sensitivity to a particular food, most parents won't try to take it out of his diet. And while cow's milk is sort of unfashionable around here, for many families, it's a staple, particularly for kids.

If someone was pushing me to sign my high-needs, sensitive, often-sick, slightly off-beat toddler up for a playgroup, I might "forget" about it too. Avoid both the playgroup and the family drama of saying no. And if people looked at said toddler, the one with the possible sensory issues resulting in a limited diet, and told me not to feed him the things that he is actually willing to eat, I'd tune right on out.

There may be real issues here, but there may also be a perfectly normal kid with parents who just make very different choices than you do.
post #10 of 20
When I think of children in my extended family who need help and intervention from relatives, I think of the four-year-old whose mom insists his speech delay can be treated in kindergarten, and who isn't yet forming two word sentences. Your nephew would not even be on my radar. Cow's milk is actually a nutritionally sound beverage for the toddler set. He might eat a wider variety of foods at home. Wrapping a child up warm is generally not a factor in developmental issues. Some kids just get sick a lot. It's not always a sign of something terrible.

If he's truly not speaking at all (rather than just not speaking to you) then his speech warrants a call to Early Intervention. You can call - EI runs Child Find programs and takes referrals from extended family, they will contact his parents.
post #11 of 20
My ds didn't talk until 22mos old didn't walk until 15mos. He is sick a lot, has allergies, goes to a daycare, was partially vaxed, drinks cow's milk. Does that make me a negligent parent? Sorry but your observations and assumptions are offensive to me. Just because I make different choices doesn't mean I am wrong or that they are wrong for my child. I might not let my child visit with a relative I felt was so judging either. This sounds curt but your post hit a nerve I guess.
post #12 of 20
Thread Starter 
I apologize.. I really didn't mean to start anything

It might just be me looking for something "wrong" because of the lack of parenting (good or bad) he receives. As I said before though- my MIL asked me what I thought should happen. I then began questioning. And questioning. And probably making assumptions that I shouldn't have.
post #13 of 20
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He didn't know what a crayon was and bit a huge chunk out of one
He's only 18 months old, I would guess that there are a lot of kids out there who are his age that haven't ever used crayons, especially kids that have a tendency to put things in their mough.
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by WindyCityMom View Post
I apologize.. I really didn't mean to start anything

It might just be me looking for something "wrong" because of the lack of parenting (good or bad) he receives. As I said before though- my MIL asked me what I thought should happen. I then began questioning. And questioning. And probably making assumptions that I shouldn't have.
IIRC, you've resented your MIL's interference in and opinions about your parenting in the past. I'd save the helping for when the parents ask you for it.

You talk about the lack of parenting this kid receives and that's where, in my head, you really stop sounding well-intentioned. This kid is being parented. He is not being parented the way you would parent him. There isn't one single correct way to raise a kid. There isn't even a single correct way to feed a kid.
post #15 of 20
Really I think I would leave my involvement of the situation at preparing healthy foods and encouraging fun activities for the child *when* he is in your care. While you're free to have opinions and judgments unless the child is being abused or neglected it is not your place to interfere. I get that MIL asked for help, but the same goes for her as well. If you want to do good things for the child, take an active role in his life when the parents leave him in your care.
post #16 of 20
I would look into mold in the ceiling or walls of his room. I always had sinus infections as a kid and they went away when I left home. Later we found mold in the ceiling from leaky pipes.
post #17 of 20
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I would look into mold in the ceiling or walls of his room. I always had sinus infections as a kid and they went away when I left home. Later we found mold in the ceiling from leaky pipes.
Ooh, GOOD thinking. I've known a lot of people who had that situation.
post #18 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks .
post #19 of 20
The no-talking thing at 18 months wouldn't worry me. DS1 (now 3 and speaking fantastic) had zero words till 20-22 months old. At that time he had ~3 - mama, dad, & no!. Around 24-26 months he blossomed/exploded and by 29 months when his lil brother was born he was speaking in 3-4 word sentences. At 3 people are shocked when I tell them all this cause' he speaks *SO* well. And we never did EI/speech therapy. I honestly don't 'get' ei/st for 12-18 month olds, maybe at 24 months. But it just seems like about half the kids in our playgroup have st because they arent/werent talking at 18 months, and I really think thats pretty normal!!
post #20 of 20
I'm afraid some kids get sick, and some don't. Breastfeeding helps in some cases, but i definitely know kids with a constant cold and a ton of allergies who were fully BF, non-vaxed, and had a wholefoods organic diet. If it was that simple to prevent illnesses no-one would have died of anything except old age until formula, vaccines and pesticides were invented.

I would hold off unless the PARENTS ask your advice. You might suggest/mention things like mould/allergies, but don't press it, they probably feel you judge them anyway and you don't want to alienate them over this issue, they are the family after all.
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