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post #101 of 226
Ivy--I'm sorry about your insurance. It's just not fair.

Our insurance is the only one my midwife knows of that won't accept her as an out of network provider. It makes me so angry. And to top it off, we got a letter from the back-up doctor's office informing us that if we chose hospital birth with our insurance we would owe....$350. Can you believe that??? And we would only have to pay one co-pay total for all visits, nothing for ultrasounds, etc. All prenatal care would be free.

We spent our entire tax return (thank God we had that just in time!) to pay for the midwife, otherwise we'd never have been able to afford a homebirth. It's worth it, but it still stings a little to think of all that money we desperately needed and could have saved if I was willing to give birth in the hospital again.

Our old insurance would have covered the homebirth partially, but we had to switch when my DH got a job with Toyota. The new insurance is way better for medical things, but doesn't accept my midwife or any homebirth stuff.

By the way, DH's job is constantly up in the air now because of all these recalls. He's a temp, you have to be a temp for two years before you can apply for permanent. The temps are of course always the first to get laid off, and they have already started laying off some of them--but so far it's just the temps with attendance or disciplinary issues. My DH never, ever misses work luckily.

I feel like we're just sitting around holding our breath waiting. It would suck for him to be unemployed with a brand new baby. Too much stress to handle. The last time he lost his job (to no fault of his own) this past fall we used up what little savings we had. This time we would be completely screwed and have no way to pay bills or mortgage unless he got another job again instantly. We can't save any money because he makes exactly enough to pay the bills as a temp worker. (Regular employees get paid nearly twice as much, so if he can just make it another year or so when he can be hired on...we'd be set.)


Dhinderliter
--My midwife would tell you to take Floradix and to also take chlorophyll. Twice the dosage the bottle of chlorophyll says unless you get lovely green diarrhea, then take a little less. If you put the chlorophyll in orange juice (and don't look at it while drinking) then you won't even know it's there.

I did that after I bled very badly (talking pools of gushing blood, emergency d&c) from my miscarriage and it worked very fast! My iron was back to normal in less than a week. I'm planning on taking that regimen after the birth just for good measure because it made me feel so much healthier all around.
post #102 of 226
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Originally Posted by Amandamanda View Post
okay sorry but i have to share pics of my little guy- i'm just so in love with him!

big yawn
waving hi
cutest thing ever.


I can't believe that by mid-May all of us will have our very own babies. Some of us much sooner than that!

Squeee!!
post #103 of 226
Grr, my boss is such a UAV about things sometimes.

So she was the one who decided to plan the baby shower at work. Some of my other coworkers had specifically wanted to get to it before she did, but they waited too long.

I didn't see the email that she sent out to everyone, but my co-showeree (due two weeks after me) saw what it said. She actually put "Along with a gift, please bring a dish to share."

Along with a gift?!?!!?

Who words an invite to a work baby shower like that? A lot of our faculty I barely even know. My co-showeree is concerned that a lot of people just won't show up because they don't want to/can't get us a gift- when really we just want people to come have a good time with us and eat food. Gifts are welcome and awesome, of course, but not necessary.

My boss just doesn't get it.
post #104 of 226
amandamanda, SO cute - thanks for sharing! and why would you apologize??

ivy, oh good, i know you have a great relationship w/ your midwife and that she would help you work something out. meanwhile, i hope spring jump starts house sales in your area!

dhinderliter, i hate that for you - so frustrating when your being so mindful of your diet. i feel the same way about my blood pressure - looking forward to seeing if it's lower today...

bubbamummy, i understand, but don't worry. it's only really been a few days! stay strong and keep ups the inversions. are you doing the slant board too? that was really the thing i hated.

carita, i hope spring makes for good house selling times for you too! meanwhile, is this friday your deadline for job decision? keep us posted!

justamama, wow your way!

daisymomma, hope those pills work - i'm glad it's not for long

mpp, i THINK if you imagine the way the baby actually rotates as it comes down the birth canal, to fit through your pelvis, it will make sense? seems to when i visualize it, but that's not a technical reply! do babies in the southern hemisphere do better in ROA?

pepper, oh my goodness, i hope your husband's job is ok too!


our insurance/health care system!!

today i am 35 weeks, MW appointment
post #105 of 226
to all the mommas with house/finance issues. We're scraping money out of our student loan payments because our house has been on the market since November with no takers, so we're doing 2 mortgages. It's totally sick that our insurance system isn't better.

I just gave my 21mo DS a few M&Ms to go with breakfast. DH left them out on the counter and I was sick of the meltdown every time we passed. Oh well - at least I knew I wasn't going to get Mother of the Year award, certainly not while pregnant.
post #106 of 226
Well, I had been miserable the last week due to a very low baby head. I felt a lot better when I woke up this morning, but then I felt around my belly and figured out that it's because I no longer have a head being engaged in my pelvis. She's off to the side now, and there is an arm presenting on my cervix.

I know it's an arm because

1. I can feel her head further off to the side, like where my ovary should be.
2. I didn't feel a head on my cervix
3. Heads don't punch you

Seriously, the kid punched me when I was checking things out to verify that there was no head applied to my cervix anymore. Weirdest thing ever.

So, anyone ever experience something like this? Any recommendations for how to get a head back down there instead of an arm?
post #107 of 226
Insurance companies just s#*$ I got an email yesterday from the midwife billing service that my insurance won't accept an appeal until AFTER the baby is born. Umm...cause that is so what I want to be doing while dealing with a newborn.

I hope that everyone selling houses gets those houses sold soon.

RhiOrion: Argh I hate at work baby showers!!!! This happened when they threw one for my last pregnancy. I specifically asked NOT to have one as there were people who made comments about my first shower (One doesn't have a shower for the second baby). But my department head did it anyway and was ASKING people for money.

AFM: I am going to get my hair done. It's a stupid waste of money but I feel so ugly and gross right now. Having my hair done always makes me feel so much better. Plus I KNOW I won't have the money to do it again until September (at least at the place I love to go to). My hair stylist is my only splurge, and he's not cheap.
post #108 of 226
Ginger, enjoy your hair appt. I have mine (and brow wax) on the 26th!
post #109 of 226
mater - ooh - we just went though this in brith class.. I guess when babies rotate, they are more likely to rotate clockwise (imagining you are looking down at a cross-section of your belly), so if they start on right, they may settle in sunny side up first instead of continuing to the left side and into the right position.

that said, DD is in the exact same place as DS was, both butts on the right, feet on the left, head down - so i guess if they baby has figured it out once, they can do it again, but I'll still be talking her through it.

P&H - thanks , yes the job deadline is Friday - I can't remember what I posted but My interview was Monday with this job at DH's work, and they interviewed a 2nd candidate Tuesday and they are meeting this week to discuss whether or not to bring a 3rd candidate on campus. If they opt to bring a 3rd, then I think its a no-go... if they like one of the 2 they brought, they *should* be able to at least unofficially tell me which one they liked more, and hopefully it will be me .

Anyone having second thoughts about their birth plans? My doula gave the the number of a HB MW... I am currently using a MW practice that basically runs a hospital ward, and its heralded even on MDC. But I keep thinking about my son being bored and all that other stuff, and the logistics of going to the hospital at 3 am, etc. I did the same with my son's birth - I wanted to check out the birth center, but I was so fa a long, I felt stupid changing so late in the game. And of course the big problem too is the paying a HB MW up front and hoping for timely reimbursement - we don't have funds for that. Makes me mad. stupid non-selling house... grrr. vent over - thanks!
post #110 of 226
(hugs) to everyone with house/financial issues. Ours have settled into a low simmer, thank goodness. My insurances is all screwed up after supposedly switching over on March 1, but I didn't get a packet from the new company and I got a "how to use your coverage" packet from the old company...really confusing.

Danielle re: torticollis, I don't know a ton. I do know enough to diagnose and refer. It's a little complicated by the fact that sometimes it is caused purely by positioning, and sometimes there is a congenital issue that causes disproportional shortening of the sternocliedomastoid (I think I spelled that right but spellcheck isn't taking it...) on one side, which can cause malpositioning in utero on its own also. And during birth sometimes overstretching occurs, causing a kind of false torticollis that is really easily corrected with a little gentle chiropractic or craniosacral therapy. I've seen chiropractic therapy work wonders even for babies who had torticollis advanced enough that they had a little facial asymmetry as well, and it seems to me that the first-line response to torticollis should be chiropractic or craniosacral care with a skilled provider (and some physical therapy) rather than those icky TOT collars and ROM-limiting stretching techniques...but again, I don't know a TON about it and don't treat it independently. Once babies leave MW care at around 6w it is gets progressively fuzzier since I wouldn't get regular updates anymore.

MPP, I was hugely skeptical of the LOA vs ROA thing at first. It does seem true that babies in ROA are more likely to turn to posterior than babies in LOA, which has to do with how much space they have...your body isn't symmetrical, there is a "handedness" to our organs. Ideally, babies' heads go to direct OA as they enter the pelvic outlet (generally during birth and not before), and moving to that axis is a little bit easier from the left than from the right because of crowding from our other internal organs. If a baby can't get into that OA position, baby's head often won't fit easily into the pelvic outlet and will rotate to OP instead...if there still isn't room in the OP position (or if turning is easy) baby will continue around through LOT to LOA to OA. It's all about your pelvic anatomy and baby's fit, really, and I've seen lots of ROA babies born without any additional drama, so I'm not inclined to get too worried about it. There's just a little extra likelihood that baby will be doing more spinning in labor, which means extra work for mom.

Rhi, that's really obnoxious. I'd be asking her to send a "reminder" email that specified that no gifts were necessary.

AFM, I have a chiro appointment today, my first. DH scheduled it for me 'cause apparently I complain and then never do it. Then I get to do another round at the Y...ugh...still haven't made that t-shirt...
post #111 of 226
loveneverfails, oh no! when i was reading every word on spinningbabies a couple of weeks ago, it stressed that baby cannot comfortably be head down if your long ligaments (that run down the sides of the uterus into the leg) are unevenly stretched or tight.... and that the inversion is great for that. i certainly felt the stretch in my LLs when i did it, and just more in alignment in my hips too.

i'm glad you can feel your baby's position, and hope that she moves for you soon!

greentea enjoy your hair appt! i think i'm going to make one - i know the split ends showing up are only going to multiply, and i can't imagine when i'll get back after the baby is here...

i'm lying on the couch w/ my feet about 2 feet above my heart, drinking water and hoping for a low bp reading in about 30 minutes!
post #112 of 226
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Originally Posted by Peace+Hope View Post
loveneverfails, oh no! when i was reading every word on spinningbabies a couple of weeks ago, it stressed that baby cannot comfortably be head down if your long ligaments (that run down the sides of the uterus into the leg) are unevenly stretched or tight.... and that the inversion is great for that. i certainly felt the stretch in my LLs when i did it, and just more in alignment in my hips too.

i'm glad you can feel your baby's position, and that she moves for you soon!

greentea enjoy your hair appt! i think i'm going to make one - i know the split ends showing up are only going to multiply, and i can't imagine when i'll get back after the baby is here...

i'm lying on the couch w/ my feet about 2 feet above my heart, drinking water and hoping for a low bp reading in about 30 minutes!
How are you not choking to death, drinking water while lying on the couch with your feet up?
post #113 of 226
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Originally Posted by Peace+Hope View Post
loveneverfails, oh no! when i was reading every word on spinningbabies a couple of weeks ago, it stressed that baby cannot comfortably be head down if your long ligaments (that run down the sides of the uterus into the leg) are unevenly stretched or tight.... and that the inversion is great for that. i certainly felt the stretch in my LLs when i did it, and just more in alignment in my hips too.

i'm glad you can feel your baby's position, and that she moves for you soon!
I got that little trouble maker! Head is BACK where it's supposed to be. I stuck a lot of pillows under my rear end (essentially mimicking a tilt table thingie) and poked her a bit, girlfriend moved back. Very sophisticated maneuver there.

Same thing I did to get her to turn vertex around 16-17 weeks. She's not extremely low, but that's definitely a head. I know because it didn't punch me...
post #114 of 226
Had anybody heard anything from Ericka recently? Any Facebook updates? I don't think she's posted anything in quite a while, and I am curious how Jennings is doing
post #115 of 226
I'm really bad at keeping up with these threads, but I read this whole one, I promise!

So, just saying hi to everyone!
post #116 of 226
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Originally Posted by GreenTeaGinger61 View Post
Insurance companies just s#*$ I got an email yesterday from the midwife billing service that my insurance won't accept an appeal until AFTER the baby is born. Umm...cause that is so what I want to be doing while dealing with a newborn.

I hope that everyone selling houses gets those houses sold soon.

RhiOrion: Argh I hate at work baby showers!!!! This happened when they threw one for my last pregnancy. I specifically asked NOT to have one as there were people who made comments about my first shower (One doesn't have a shower for the second baby). But my department head did it anyway and was ASKING people for money.

AFM: I am going to get my hair done. It's a stupid waste of money but I feel so ugly and gross right now. Having my hair done always makes me feel so much better. Plus I KNOW I won't have the money to do it again until September (at least at the place I love to go to). My hair stylist is my only splurge, and he's not cheap.
i'd really like to get my hair cut, pedicure and do some personal grooming before the baby....i feel pretty frumpy too.

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Originally Posted by nikirj View Post
(hugs) to everyone with house/financial issues. Ours have settled into a low simmer, thank goodness. My insurances is all screwed up after supposedly switching over on March 1, but I didn't get a packet from the new company and I got a "how to use your coverage" packet from the old company...really confusing.

Danielle re: torticollis, I don't know a ton. I do know enough to diagnose and refer. It's a little complicated by the fact that sometimes it is caused purely by positioning, and sometimes there is a congenital issue that causes disproportional shortening of the sternocliedomastoid (I think I spelled that right but spellcheck isn't taking it...) on one side, which can cause malpositioning in utero on its own also. And during birth sometimes overstretching occurs, causing a kind of false torticollis that is really easily corrected with a little gentle chiropractic or craniosacral therapy. I've seen chiropractic therapy work wonders even for babies who had torticollis advanced enough that they had a little facial asymmetry as well, and it seems to me that the first-line response to torticollis should be chiropractic or craniosacral care with a skilled provider (and some physical therapy) rather than those icky TOT collars and ROM-limiting stretching techniques...but again, I don't know a TON about it and don't treat it independently. Once babies leave MW care at around 6w it is gets progressively fuzzier since I wouldn't get regular updates anymore.

MPP, I was hugely skeptical of the LOA vs ROA thing at first. It does seem true that babies in ROA are more likely to turn to posterior than babies in LOA, which has to do with how much space they have...your body isn't symmetrical, there is a "handedness" to our organs. Ideally, babies' heads go to direct OA as they enter the pelvic outlet (generally during birth and not before), and moving to that axis is a little bit easier from the left than from the right because of crowding from our other internal organs. If a baby can't get into that OA position, baby's head often won't fit easily into the pelvic outlet and will rotate to OP instead...if there still isn't room in the OP position (or if turning is easy) baby will continue around through LOT to LOA to OA. It's all about your pelvic anatomy and baby's fit, really, and I've seen lots of ROA babies born without any additional drama, so I'm not inclined to get too worried about it. There's just a little extra likelihood that baby will be doing more spinning in labor, which means extra work for mom.

Rhi, that's really obnoxious. I'd be asking her to send a "reminder" email that specified that no gifts were necessary.

AFM, I have a chiro appointment today, my first. DH scheduled it for me 'cause apparently I complain and then never do it. Then I get to do another round at the Y...ugh...still haven't made that t-shirt...
chiro sounds like a dream! i do the same thing though...course i don't even have a chiro i go to anymore so it would have to be starting from scratch....i guess i must have had something more severe than just stretching. i walked late due to having my head cocked so far to the side and even walked kinda funny and even turned in a circle (without remembering it!) while i was walking sometimes. it wasn't till i was about 4 or 5 i guess that anyone even said that my mom was right something was wrong! by then it would have been surgery but not worth all the PT. did go to the chiro 3-4x a week though for a very long time.

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Had anybody heard anything from Ericka recently? Any Facebook updates? I don't think she's posted anything in quite a while, and I am curious how Jennings is doing
Jennings in on fortifiers and i think that it's really messing him up. things took a turn for the worst last night??? i think. he stopped breathing from vomiting so much, he has "acid reflux" after being put on formula, he's lost some weight and is basically nonresponsive now/sleeping way to heavy. it really sucks! seems like he was doing great and might have even been able to be discharged before we hit april but since the fortifiers.....
post #117 of 226
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How are you not choking to death, drinking water while lying on the couch with your feet up?
a straw

bp is the same. at least it's not up!!! MWs were awesome as usual, not that worried. they say even w/ increased swelling, i'm still not pitting, and my urine looks great. so, no big deal basically . also, they say i could go into labor any time now and they feel confident birthing at home would be fine w/ them. they estimate baby is 5 1/2 lbs, and s/he is very active. YAYAYAYAY

ETA: horrible news about jennings! can they not stop the supplimentation, or do they not agree that's causing these problems he's having? how could he go from practically fine to this . thinking of you guys, erick and jennings...
post #118 of 226
Wow - lots going on here since I last checked!

P+H Thanks for the "welcome"! My hands feel really sore, too. At first I thought it was from swelling (which for me only happens at night, then goes away during the day) but they're sore even without the swelling. Do you know what the deal is there?

Ivy I'm so sorry about the payments and midwife. My MW has a billing service who has good luck billing for birth services without specificying that it is a homebirth. To be honest, that did help us decide which MW to choose. Money is such a pain in the *&%$%#. Good luck with everything!

Pepper I'm so sorry about your cousin and his wife. What a terrible tragedy. I would feel safe saying that he will probably change his mind and be less forgiving and then come back to it. I know that has happened to me in the past. In the beginning the "intellect" wins out, then the grief sets in, and then my rationality comes back. hugs to you and your family

GTG I've been meaning to get my hair cut for over 3 months now. It's almost to my waist. I just feel like there are so many other things I'd rather do than go sit at the hairdresser for 1.5 hours. <sigh>

dhinderliter How many weeks are you? I had been having trouble with my iron, too. I've been taking MegaFoods bloodbuilder. It took me 6+ weeks to get any improvement. My MW said that was probably due to the fact that my blood volume was still expanding. If I hadn't been taking supps, it might have continued to go down. It was 9.9 at 30 weeks and 34 weeks. But at 36 weeks I am back to 10.9 . Yay! Progress! I also read somewhere that iron supps can take 3-6 weeks to show any improvement.

AFM: The scale at the Endocrinologist's office said I had gained 40 lbs so far, 10 of it in the past 2 weeks. I almost flipped! I dont' know where my weight gain is! I've only recently stopped being able to fit into the maternity pants that I bought at the beginning (thighs are growing, ladies ) my face is a little chubbier.. but that's it. Yesterday at the MW, though, her scale said 35lbs total and only 5 in the past 2 weeks. Phew. Edit: Obviously I also have a large basketball tummy to show for it, as well. Silly me.

My biggiest issue right now is work. I. am. so. done. We have a new overall manager who is a complete and utter &*%$#! She caused me SERIOUS stress a month ago, to the point where I was close to quitting. She is still causing problems all over the department. I swear they are trying to get us all to quit, so they don't have to lay any more people off. I just found out that they give benefits with severance packages. I would love for them to just lay me off now. Anyone know how to subtly bring that up with HR? They clearly don't need me around here (aren't letting me do my job) and I'm just sitting on my bum, reading MDC and the rest of the internet. I think I would have been laid off if I weren't pregnant!

I'm not ready to be done with this pregnancy, but if it gets me out of the office.....
post #119 of 226
Oh man, that sucks so much about Jennings. He was doing so well! He went from a 33 weeker who barely needed any assistance to this?! Argh.

Can someone post or PM me Ericka's facebook address? I think I'll send her a friend request, I really want to keep up with how they're doing.
post #120 of 226
poor baby Jennings, I hope things start looking up soon.

2nd chiro. visit today for the Webster Tech. again, after baby went nuts but still no turning yet
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