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post #1 of 14
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My son is nearly 11 and in the 5th grade. He is a bright and happy kid, but has never done all that well at school. He was a slow to learn to read fluently, and was constantly getting notes sent home about that. During the summer after 2nd grade, I really buckled down and had him read *everything* around us, billboards while on the road, what is in the food we are eating, to the name of the shampoo we are using. It worked very well, and the teacher noticed a marked improvement in his reading level, and is currently on grade level. He even reads for fun now

I think the problem is that there are always 20+ kids in his classes, with one teacher, and there is no individual instruction. He needs one on one help with everything, or it seems like he just doesn't get it. I find myself having to "teach" him everything after he comes home anyway.

He is in danger of having to repeat the 5th grade I want to pull him out and try HSing, but I have absolutely no idea where to start.

What are the first steps? Exactly who would I contact to remove him from school?

Also, I am a pretty laid back person, so how do I go about scheduling "learning time" and what kind of stuff would I start with?

We've had multiple meetings with his teacher, and nothing is getting better..well, grades have come up from Fs and Ds to Ds and Cs...but that is no way to learn. I do not want my child to eek through school. That is not good enough.

FWIW, DS#2 is in the second grade and has all As and Bs, so I'm thinking that DS#1 just isn't doing well in that kind of traditional learning environment.

I do stay at home, so there wouldn't be a problem with us having all day to accomplish learning, exploring, etc.

I'm looking for guidance on how to get the ball rolling, YKWIM?

Thanks in advance, Kaara
post #2 of 14
The exact procedure on how to start varies from state-to-state. I would find a copy of your state's laws online to see what the enrollment procedure is. HSLDA has descriptions of each state's laws, but sometimes they can have inaccuracies. You may be able to find more up to date materials on your state's dept of ed website.
post #3 of 14
When I was making this decision I read everything and anything about the topic of homeschooling. The book that helped me the most in terms of taking the leap was Homeschooling. Take a deep breath you can do this http://www.amazon.com/Homeschooling-.../dp/0972807152.

In terms of scheduling, we do our official school work first thing in the morning. Math, Language Arts, History, Science, etc. All done in the morning. Least favorite subjects first. I find that keeps my kids focused.
post #4 of 14
Do you want to pull him out now, or are you trying to get set up for next year?

If you pull him out now, (this may differ depending on your state) in my state (WA) I just needed to go to the office and withdraw my child from school. I then sent in my declaration of intent to homeschool and we were set.

There are lots of curriculum choices out there:
I like Singapore math & math mammoth. I didn't like Saxon. But there are lots of good math curriculums out there. Here are some reviews: http://www.homeschoolmath.net/curriculum_reviews/

Don't get hung up on grade level. Have him take the placements tests and go from there.

How does your son learn best? That will help us give you links to great resources.

Amy
post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 
Oh thanks for all the good advice! Keep it coming.

I would like to get set up over ths summer. I don't want to jump in and get overwhelmed. Also this gives me time to ease some of my extended family into the idea of it. Ultimately, I will do what is right for my son, but it would be easier than just not enrolling him in school next year and waiting to hear negative stuff pouring out all over us

I'm gonna check that book out kewb. Thanks
post #6 of 14
I have an 11 yr old 6th grade son myself. Imagining him in that kind of school situation makes me so sad. I'm sorry your son is going through all that!

So here is my personal opinion, take it with a grain of salt. If I were you, I'd pull my son out right now. Like, today. And I'd allow him to "deschool" the rest of the school year to allow him time to discover what he's most interested in & for you to get a good feel for his interests, capabilities & rhythms. And to give you plenty of time to research! Google "your state, homeschooling" & you should easily be able to track down laws, support groups, etc. It's nearly impossible to purchase curriculum that will be a great fit for your kid before you really get to know your kid, education-wise. All that stuff you said you did with learning to read on the shampoo bottles, etc? Just keep that up! Talk with him about events in the news, or issues you are pondering, or cool things you come across that you want to share with him. Watch some YouTubes together on things he'll enjoy, like "birds of paradise mating dance", LOL, me & my son got a huge laugh out of that one recently.

Homeschooling is super fun, & can really save some kids from miserable public school experiences. Your ds just might blossom in awesome ways if he's able to stay at home!
post #7 of 14
My kid is much younger, but I think I'd also pull her asap and deschool her in that situation too.

Take the pressure off of both of you, give you both time to settle in and figure things out.

But you do have to look at your state's laws first, though.
post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by Catherine12 View Post
The exact procedure on how to start varies from state-to-state. I would find a copy of your state's laws online to see what the enrollment procedure is. HSLDA has descriptions of each state's laws, but sometimes they can have inaccuracies. You may be able to find more up to date materials on your state's dept of ed website.
Unfortunately, the state ed departments can be misleading as well - that used to be the case in California. Maddening. But here are some very good sources of information:

Home Education Magazine's pages on Support Groups, Laws, and Regulations

A to Z's pages on Homeschool Laws & Legalities

Lillian
post #9 of 14
We took dd#1 out around this time of year when she was a 1st grader -- like the pps are suggesting. She had a horrible fit with a teacher and was falling apart emotionally. If he isn't learning well in school anyway, unless you are required to do testing for 5th grade, I'd be inclined to go that way as well. If he has to take tests this year, I might leave him in for another few weeks until the testing is done at the school and then take him out. Right now is the testing window for my state to do the NCLB tests (CSAPs).

We have info on our district's website about homeschooling regulations locally. If you google your district's name and "homeschooling," you may get a hit with info on what the regulation are. I was also, a few years ago, able to get a bound copy of all the district's course info by grade from the district (not superbly specific like down to curriculum & lesson plans, but at least things like science, math, reading, & social studies standards for each grade level). They charged me something like $5 for each set (K-3, 4-5, etc.) Something like that might be a good starting point.
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by zjande View Post
I have an 11 yr old 6th grade son myself. Imagining him in that kind of school situation makes me so sad. I'm sorry your son is going through all that!

So here is my personal opinion, take it with a grain of salt. If I were you, I'd pull my son out right now. Like, today. And I'd allow him to "deschool" the rest of the school year to allow him time to discover what he's most interested in & for you to get a good feel for his interests, capabilities & rhythms. And to give you plenty of time to research! Google "your state, homeschooling" & you should easily be able to track down laws, support groups, etc. It's nearly impossible to purchase curriculum that will be a great fit for your kid before you really get to know your kid, education-wise. All that stuff you said you did with learning to read on the shampoo bottles, etc? Just keep that up! Talk with him about events in the news, or issues you are pondering, or cool things you come across that you want to share with him. Watch some YouTubes together on things he'll enjoy, like "birds of paradise mating dance", LOL, me & my son got a huge laugh out of that one recently.

Homeschooling is super fun, & can really save some kids from miserable public school experiences. Your ds just might blossom in awesome ways if he's able to stay at home!
I'd find all sorts of wonderful books to enjoy reading aloud to him as well. Find good videos to watch together. Get out in nature and soak it all in, not worrying about his learning something from it - this is the last spring he'll ever be 10, and it can be a wondrous one.

Here are some posts and articles about decompression/deschooling - this sounds pretty essential. I've heard of very few cases in which people were able to not allow for this important process.

Also take a look at some information on vision skill difficulties - what you're describing could be some of the symptoms of subtle problems that often go undiagnosed.

Oh! Did I mention I think you should pull him out right now?

Lillian
post #11 of 14
Thread Starter 
Well, I'm in Delaware..if that helps anyone..gonna google it in a minute. He has testing for the next 2 weeks (DSTP?) I like the idea of decompressing/deschooling.

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this is the last spring he'll ever be 10, and it can be a wondrous one.
You made me tear up where is the crying/laughing smile?
post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 
There are quite a few books in my public library, I'm going to go check out as soon as DD finishes her cereal with cheese
post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by kyndmamaof4 View Post
You made me tear up where is the crying/laughing smile?
I always have trouble finding that one too! Here you go: - it's in the left hand column of the top smilie section. - Lillian
post #14 of 14
You can do it Mama.

I agree with the PPs about taking him out now (or after standardized testing) to destress/deschool. According to the site below, standardized testing is not required of Delaware homeschoolers, so you could pull him now.

As for curriculum for next year, there are a ton of choices out there. No doubt, there is a local homeschooling curriculum fair which will head through your State (or near by)... which will either overwhelm you, or make things easier.


This page tells you the Getting Started steps for Delaware http://www.dheaonline.org/GettingStarted.htm
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