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post #21 of 54
hi all, we just started cava/ k12 yesterday on 1st grade. subbing.....
post #22 of 54
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Originally Posted by EXOLAX View Post
Things have been going really well for us. I'm happy with the curriculum and I have found the K and 1st grade curriculum to be pretty flexible. We are already enrolled for both kids for next year and I'm excited to get started!!

Those who are leaving I am curious what your reasons are. Is there anything specific?
We are leaving because we feel that we need to spend time focusing on reading and math right now, getting the kids som really firm footing on those subjects. We want to put science and history over to electives, and not worry so much about those subjects until they are really reading well. Plus, OHVA won't let us combine a 1st grader and 2nd grader into history and science 2 even though the younger of the two sat in on all of the history and science 1 this year for K. I'm not too thrilled with that, and we had decided that if we couldn't combine like that then we would be leaving. As the kids get older (like somewhere in middle school maybe) we'll bring them back to OHVA one at a time because we really do love the curriculum and the school, but at this point it just isn't a fit for us and the kids' needs.
post #23 of 54
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Originally Posted by eclipse View Post
My kids have really been itching to branch out more. Aside from that, there's a lot of pressure to participate in things like Study Island and the god awful elluminate classes. We're moving to another homeschool charter that will pay for outside classes, let you get whatever curriculum you want (as long as it meets state standards), etc. Also, my youngest will be kindy age next year, and there's just no way he would do well with k12 curriculum.
I agree, plus its a lot of work if your doing everything they assign each day and the way they assign it. I'm debating switching to Sky Mountain which is the same type of charter eclipse mentions. They give you $1900 per year to pretty much do what you want with and I would love to have a lot more flexibility in our schedule which CAVA doesn't offer. Some weeks nothing gets done, then dd does tons of work to catch up. CAVA doesn't like that! I need to be able to back off and not push school for a week here and there.

That said, I apologize for my vent on this thread the other day but I was correct. She knew the material and was acting like she didn't to rile me up and she figured if I got frustrated enough I would just stick her in public school rather then keep trying to cover the same concept. Funny thing she doesn't realize is mama's not that stupid, yesterday day I told her I would be happy to make her the cake she wanted after she learns her math. Sat down with her, did a 2 minute review and what do you know, she got 29/30 right After what, 4-5 days of "playing dumb" on something I KNEW she knew.

Anyway, need to get my little one off to daycare and the nurse gets here to pick her up in 15 minutes and she's still asleep and lunch yet to be made. Hope we all have a good day!
post #24 of 54
We are in the process of enrolling with PA Virtual. The k12 curriculum looks amazing.

The kids have always been homeschooled, but I will have to report for my ds next year. He is currently in 2nd grade and is advanced in science and reading. He will definitely benefit from more structure.

My dd will be entering kindergarten and is very excited to being "doing school" like her brother. She loves art and cannot get enough of it. The art program looks very appealing to her.

I am imagining that my 3 yo will sit in on many of her sister's lessons. She is already desiring to read.

Happy to be a part of this group!
post #25 of 54
OK why am I seriously considering withdrawing them from OHVA now instead of waiting until the end of the school year? I mean, they are doing really well with the work, but we're at the time of year here where I don't want to do much schoolwork formally. This is when we prefer to lifeschool and work in the yard on stuff, getting the yard and gardens ready to start planting next month, taking out trees that we want removed this year, tearing out our concrete walk and laying a brick one............... And it just doesn't feel like we can really take the time to lifeschool the way we want AND keep up with lessons. I feel really bad about that, the kids are stuck working on schoolwork inside (too breezy to do it outside) when we'd all rather be out working on the practical things like getting our garden frames built, filled, and prepped for our veggie growing attempt this year.
post #26 of 54
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OK why am I seriously considering withdrawing them from OHVA now instead of waiting until the end of the school year? I mean, they are doing really well with the work, but we're at the time of year here where I don't want to do much schoolwork formally. This is when we prefer to lifeschool and work in the yard on stuff, getting the yard and gardens ready to start planting next month, taking out trees that we want removed this year, tearing out our concrete walk and laying a brick one............... And it just doesn't feel like we can really take the time to lifeschool the way we want AND keep up with lessons. I feel really bad about that, the kids are stuck working on schoolwork inside (too breezy to do it outside) when we'd all rather be out working on the practical things like getting our garden frames built, filled, and prepped for our veggie growing attempt this year.
Not that I would or anything but some families do mark a lesson as done even if its not and you learned something else Unless you know there going to be tested on it by the school/state I would not worry about it to be honest. Were focusing on the lang arts and math, to heck with the rest right now. We have enough to worry about besides what some prince did 400 years ago that had no real impact on today and lets not get into the art lessons... or the music for that matter.
post #27 of 54
Boobah is being withdrawn. Bean will be continuing, and the jury is still out on Bella starting. The teachers are receiving a lot of pressure from administration about those bloody tests and I'm just not sure I want to deal with it, nor do I believe that phone conferences will go well for Bella (who can be very shy). Boobah had a conference yesterday and Mike said that her ear was itchy, so she was scratching at it when the teacher was asking questions and she didn't hear, and when she *did* hear she apparently didn't answer quickly enough and the teacher would answer for her. He said that the difference between Boobah's teacher and Bean's was really irritating to him. Boobah's teacher apparently doesn't realize that kindergarteners often need a bit more time to answer, and that you can't just shove them through a conference because you have to cram a half dozen kids into a single morning. In any case, it's too much pressure for her. She's going to unschool, and I don't know that Bella will be in any better position to handle the pressure.

Bean still hasn't experienced any pressure, and this year's teacher knows him well and has been great. She understands that if we check of nine history lessons in a single day, she can talk to Bean about them later and he'll just rattle things off to her. He should be fine next year, despite the irritation that is the PSSA.
post #28 of 54
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We'll be doing it next year. I suspect if we had a different teacher, we might not be back, but she is flexible and understands that we might do only a lesson or two one day, and then gallumph through a ton a few days later. She knows the reason we're doing k12 is because we travel so much, and that there are days where we don't 'do' much attendance because we're on the road.

I am not sure we'll continue once she hits third grade and has to start taking the state tests. One of our concerns has always been the "teaching to the test" aspect of public schooling - and study island sessions etc. would maybe become 'teaching to the test' again. Blech.

But for now, we're good. This summer, we'll be able to work on Math 1 and we'll just get some 'beginning reading' books from the library to keep working on phonics/reading over the summer, and do a few unit studies but mostly just relax (We're going to do butterflies, and maybe something on dinosaurs and something on space --- FIL's a retired biology prof who specializes in wildflowers etc., so maybe we can talk him into a day with dd1 talking about the flowers etc. in the mountains.).

We do skip some lessons and mark them 'done' when we did something comparable (ie, mark a history lesson done after we read a book about the history of all the states) - I don't do it very often, we do a lot of 'extra' stuff that we just count as hours. For instance, Ina has an art class at the Y once a week, but I can't bring myself to cancel out an art lesson for her art class -- she loves art so much, it just works as an 'in addition' for art. If I were being super-efficient though I ought to count it as an art lesson.
post #29 of 54
Is anyone feeling as burned out as I am right now? I am soooo tempted to just disenroll dd. The work load is just getting to be to much and I'm just marking off half of it every day as done and just worrying about the LA and math which is what we need to focus on. I don't need to do all this daily crap where I get a call or email if we miss a couple of days with CAVA. I'm just burned out. We've been with CAVA for 2 years and I'm just way burned out. Anyone else thinking of leaving early?
post #30 of 54
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Is anyone feeling as burned out as I am right now? I am soooo tempted to just disenroll dd. The work load is just getting to be to much and I'm just marking off half of it every day as done and just worrying about the LA and math which is what we need to focus on. I don't need to do all this daily crap where I get a call or email if we miss a couple of days with CAVA. I'm just burned out. We've been with CAVA for 2 years and I'm just way burned out. Anyone else thinking of leaving early?
Yesterday was our official last day. For a lot of the same reasons.
post #31 of 54
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Yesterday was our official last day. For a lot of the same reasons.
How did the process go? How do you leave CAVA?
post #32 of 54
We decided to go with a different charter, so all we had to do is fill out paperwork with them and they handled the rest. I'm not sure exactly what the process is if you just want to go independant.
post #33 of 54
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Originally Posted by eclipse View Post
We decided to go with a different charter, so all we had to do is fill out paperwork with them and they handled the rest. I'm not sure exactly what the process is if you just want to go independant.
Another charter allowed you to enroll this late in the game? Were considering one but they aren't taking anymore kids until next year.
post #34 of 54
Yeah, they were taking students through April 25, I think. I'm sure you can just call and tell them you want to disenroll, though, and they'll tell you what to do. Then you can just file a homeschool/private school affidavit for the rest of the school year.
post #35 of 54
"I'm debating switching to Sky Mountain which is the same type of charter eclipse mentions. They give you $1900 per year to pretty much do what you want with..."

Oh, to have such an option!

We are actually doing just fine, but I'm burned out on K12 in a big way and can't wait to ditch it. We are most definitely going to have a better year next year - part of that is that James has picked up on the concept of phonics and made a huge reading leap and everything is just naturally going to the next level, but part of it is that we won't be doing SIX formal subjects plus "synch time" as mandated by our K12 charter school.

Latin-centered curriculum, here we come!!!
post #36 of 54
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Originally Posted by Smithie View Post
"I'm debating switching to Sky Mountain which is the same type of charter eclipse mentions. They give you $1900 per year to pretty much do what you want with..."

Oh, to have such an option!

We are actually doing just fine, but I'm burned out on K12 in a big way and can't wait to ditch it. We are most definitely going to have a better year next year - part of that is that James has picked up on the concept of phonics and made a huge reading leap and everything is just naturally going to the next level, but part of it is that we won't be doing SIX formal subjects plus "synch time" as mandated by our K12 charter school.

Latin-centered curriculum, here we come!!!
I'm still debating it, were leaving CAVA for sure. It would be sooo nice to just worry about the 3 R's for a year and do the unschooling thing for everything else. I think its going to boil down to $$. I need to sit down and write down all the goodies I want and price it out and if it comes out to less then the $1900 we'll probably just do the PSA. I know were already at about $500 for the stuff I want and I know I will shell out of about half of it anyway in the next month since were not taking the summer off (we only work about a hour a day anyway so its not a big deal and dd doesn't handle breaks well at all).

Have you looked around? I had no idea about this charter until dd's councilor told me about it. Turns out we have like 5-7 charters to choose from that I had no idea about.
post #37 of 54
I'm incredibly frustrated by K12. Next year, we're switching to Connections Academy. I really wish I had enrolled there this winter.

Still don't have an official 504 on file.
Still doing a whopping 2 subjects a day and they still won't send the next year's stuff. She finished K stuff but can't be 1st grade so I was instructed to 'supplement' and claim the time. Just not doing that.
Still getting a bad vibe from the teacher.

Now, DS's teacher is fabulous and I am content with his assignments, but he's going to school next year. I want to keep him on track with his future peers so we're working through it and plan to finish the year fairly close to the official year end.
post #38 of 54
I am a little surprised to hear that so many are disappointed with k12. Is there anyone who is satisfied with the curriculum?

We are planning to use it for 3rd grade and (possibly) K through our state charter school. It doesn't appear to be an excessive amount of work to me, but maybe I am missing something. We typically do math, reading, spelling, english, science/history daily. Handwriting is 2 times a week, but really should be more frequent. Art is usually 1-2 times a week. Music would be new for us.

Are those disappointed more of an unschooling mindset or would the workload be more than a traditional homeschooler requires?

Thanks!
post #39 of 54
Personally, I love the curriculum. It's one of the least Eurocentric boxed curricula available, possibly the least, it's very detailed and there are lots of ways to make the curriculum more interesting and appropriate for children with different interests and learning styles. My son's been absolutely thriving with it for a few years now and I have no plans to change that. Boobah, however, is a very different child than her brother. She's at least as intelligent as he is, but she's not that outgoing, obviously brilliant, engaged, articulate child-- she's got her own scene and she's less interested in interacting with other people and learning what they say she ought to than is her brother, who will just absorb anything placed in front of him. If you put Bean in front of a plate of knowledge, he would simply inhale it; Boobah likes to think about what she's getting, and sometimes she'd rather pass in favor of something else which is equally nutritious. It's not that I'm of a more unschooly mindset, but that my daughter is. She's done very well, it just isn't quite ideal.
post #40 of 54
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Originally Posted by ALittleBitCrunchy View Post
I'm incredibly frustrated by K12. Next year, we're switching to Connections Academy. I really wish I had enrolled there this winter.

Still don't have an official 504 on file.
Still doing a whopping 2 subjects a day and they still won't send the next year's stuff. She finished K stuff but can't be 1st grade so I was instructed to 'supplement' and claim the time. Just not doing that.
Still getting a bad vibe from the teacher.

Now, DS's teacher is fabulous and I am content with his assignments, but he's going to school next year. I want to keep him on track with his future peers so we're working through it and plan to finish the year fairly close to the official year end.
Make sure you actually look at the books/materials from Connections, I did and was shocked. Connections looked good but once I actually looked at the materials? Its easier because the materials are easier, much lower quality education. Its literally the same stuff the local public school uses and I know at least the math is about 3 semesters behind K12. I had a big fight with CA over that and it was kind of the deal breaker because they really don't/can't place a child more then 1 grade level in either direction for course materials. dd was going into 3rd grade but would need 5th grade, 2nd semester math from CA where as she was only 1 year ahead in math for K12 (so was ready for K12's 4th grade math).

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Originally Posted by magnolia_mama View Post
I am a little surprised to hear that so many are disappointed with k12. Is there anyone who is satisfied with the curriculum?

We are planning to use it for 3rd grade and (possibly) K through our state charter school. It doesn't appear to be an excessive amount of work to me, but maybe I am missing something. We typically do math, reading, spelling, english, science/history daily. Handwriting is 2 times a week, but really should be more frequent. Art is usually 1-2 times a week. Music would be new for us.

Are those disappointed more of an unschooling mindset or would the workload be more than a traditional homeschooler requires?

Thanks!
Its not so much that I'm not satisfied as there's just so much and you can't opt out of anything. I don't want to deal with art and music. The music is plain boring as heck and we can take actual music lessons if we want. The art is just too advanced for a small child I think. Maybe because of my childs learning style I'm less tolerant about the amount of work. I am classical at heart but my dd is very much an unschooler and the 2 do not mix so well. That said we will still use K12 for LA and math (you don't really need the OLS for that) and wing it for science and history for a year then reassess. I feel like we spend so much time doing other subjects when dd really needs to focus on the 3Rs and K12 just moves too fast/doesn't give much practice for her in these critical areas and doesn't allow a child to move at there own pace. Plus I find that I rarely teach using their materials, there great for guiding but actual teaching from them? I rarely do and use other things to teach the concepts.
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