Polly pockets - Page 3

[rzberrymom]

Originally Posted by Cascadian

ITA...no big boobs...in fact, they are pretty harmless looking compared to the evil Barbie and co. Even the clothing is really harmless.

We must have gotten some duds. A friend gave two to my DD, and they look pretty much exactly like Barbie. I think one was supposed to be Belle, and she had a bouffant hairdo, the feet on tiptoes ready for the high heals, and a dress covered in glitter that shed all over our house--given that the made in China glitter has often been found to contain lead, it went in the garbage. In the end, it actually led to a pretty good conversation with my DD about junk toys.

[Cascadian]

Originally Posted by rzberrymom

We must have gotten some duds. A friend gave two to my DD, and they look pretty much exactly like Barbie. I think one was supposed to be Belle, and she had a bouffant hairdo, the feet on tiptoes ready for the high heals, and a dress covered in glitter that shed all over our house--given that the made in China glitter has often been found to contain lead, it went in the garbage. In the end, it actually led to a pretty good conversation with my DD about junk toys.

Maybe it's just a limited edition thing? None of ours have sparkles, and I don't remember any huge boobage...

...but I'm ok with my girls having dolls with boobs, TBH. One day, they might even have some of their own (as long as they don't take after mama )

Buy, or don't buy. It's not the end of the world.

[rzberrymom]

Originally Posted by Cascadian

...but I'm ok with my girls having dolls with boobs, TBH. One day, they might even have some of their own

Ok, obviously it's not just that they have boobs. It's that they look nothing like a normal, healthy woman.

[madskye]

No offense, but other than the fact that I'm not 2" high, I have a pretty Polly-esque figure. proportionwise. Most likely my daughter will grow up the same way. I know that there's a lot of pressure out there for people to have a certain body, certain look, etc, but some people do have boobs and a tiny waist. That doesn't make me any less of a person than someone who is shaped very differently?

I get that we want to see lots of representations of woman, and that Polly or Barbie is not an accurate picture of all women, but there are people out there who look like that without having eating disorders. I consider myself a normal, healthy woman too.

[Cascadian]

Originally Posted by rzberrymom

Ok, obviously it's not just that they have boobs. It's that they look nothing like a normal, healthy woman.

Neither do most toys...or cartoons..or book illustrations. What is 'normal and healthy'? What does that look like? I'm skinny (ok, sans boobs ) and I bet if somone made a doll like me, there'd be a whole thread devoted to how it doesn't look like 'normal healthy women'.

Yeah, we can deconstruct things to death and get lost in the mire, or help instill consumer literacy within our kids. With DDs of a certain age, I really choose my battles and where I spend my righteous indignation.

[rzberrymom]

Originally Posted by madskye

No offense, but other than the fact that I'm not 2" high, I have a pretty Polly-esque figure. proportionwise. Most likely my daughter will grow up the same way. I know that there's a lot of pressure out there for people to have a certain body, certain look, etc, but some people do have boobs and a tiny waist. That doesn't make me any less of a person than someone who is shaped very differently?

I get that we want to see lots of representations of woman, and that Polly or Barbie is not an accurate picture of all women, but there are people out there who look like that without having eating disorders. I consider myself a normal, healthy woman too.

It sounds like they could be good models for your daughter then--I don't know anyone in real life that looks like a Barbie (which is what our Polly Pockets look like), but I'll concede that there must be folks out there that do.

[rzberrymom]

Originally Posted by Cascadian

Neither do most toys...or cartoons..or book illustrations. What is 'normal and healthy'? What does that look like? I'm skinny (ok, sans boobs ) and I bet if somone made a doll like me, there'd be a whole thread devoted to how it doesn't look like 'normal healthy women'.

Yeah, we can deconstruct things to death and get lost in the mire, or help instill consumer literacy within our kids. With DDs of a certain age, I really choose my battles and where I spend my righteous indignation.

I suppose--but, my kiddos aren't exposed to hyper-sexualized cartoons or books either. It's just a limit we have in our household, but obviously we all parent differently.

[Cascadian]

Originally Posted by rzberrymom

I suppose--but, my kiddos aren't exposed to hyper-sexualized cartoons or books either. It's just a limit we have in our household, but obviously we all parent differently.

Yup. Some of us choose to provide opportunities for critical thought to allow a child to navigate the world at large outside of the bubble.

Obviously, different parenting.

[rzberrymom]

Originally Posted by Cascadian

Yup. Some of us choose to provide opportunities for critical thought to allow a child to navigate the world at large outside of the bubble.

Obviously, different parenting.

Yeah, we choose to provide opportunities for critical thought, while still maintaining some values that are important to DH and me--that's what parenting means to us.

[Tjej]

Originally Posted by nextcommercial

KY jelly?

Eww...

I had thought about the soapy water, but aren't all the clothes coated with some sort of oil that makes them slide? They feel so slimey.

I guess, it can't get harder to get those capris on and off, I might as well try SOMETHING.

Well, water first...

Tjej

[SeekingSerenity]

Originally Posted by rzberrymom

We must have gotten some duds. A friend gave two to my DD, and they look pretty much exactly like Barbie. I think one was supposed to be Belle, and she had a bouffant hairdo, the feet on tiptoes ready for the high heals, and a dress covered in glitter that shed all over our house--given that the made in China glitter has often been found to contain lead, it went in the garbage. In the end, it actually led to a pretty good conversation with my DD about junk toys.

We have some of those also. They are actually Disney princesses. They look EXACTLY like Pollies, and I have often wondered if they aren't made by the same company. Except they do have bigger boobage and their shoes don't come off.

Someone else mentioned that she doesn't know anyone who looks like Barbie, and maybe so, but I probably look more like a Polly Pocket than most people. I'm only 4'10" and while BFing, I'm pretty busty... and I weigh about 95 lbs. So I guess I don't have a problem with the body shape of Polly. Barbie either, for that matter, since first of all we don't have many of those, and second of all even when I was growing up, I didn't think I should look like a Barbie or that everyone should look like that. (Granted, I did want to be taller, but I suppose everyone wants something!)

I am much more concerned about the hyper-sexualization in commercials and advertising than in Polly Pockets. But that's just me. Everyone does things a little differently!

[SeekingSerenity]

Originally Posted by Tjej

Eww...

I had thought about the soapy water, but aren't all the clothes coated with some sort of oil that makes them slide? They feel so slimey.

I guess, it can't get harder to get those capris on and off, I might as well try SOMETHING.

Well, water first...

Tjej

Mine have gotten this way after they get hot. They get sticky and nasty. We have so many of these things that I just pitch them if they get that way.

[karemore]

We had the Kellie dolls first, because I was avoiding Barbies. DD loved them and played with them a lot.

But once she played with Polly Pockets at a friend's house Kelli and friends were pushed aside.

I haven't seen anything else with the same appeal to girls. The pet shop animals are not even close. The calico critters are adorable, but again they aren't played with like the Polly Pockets.

DD does play with her doll house dolls a lot, but usually along with the polly pockets and the princess dolls the same size as the polly's. It's the Disney dolls that are covered in glitter. I hate those too.

[Just1More]

Well, for us it's mostly the commercialism. We don't get on the buy-it bandwagon. Our kids can collect bugs, leaves, anything REAL. Not plastic stuff. When it isn't a huge want, I just don't even want to start it.

And, less than body figure, it's more about the clothes. The tight clothes. I don't wear stuff with spaghetti straps, or boots laced to my knees. And dd won't either until she's on her own. Yeup. We're that conservative.

Thanks for the thoughts and suggestions. It's been a good read.

[Rabbit8]

The only reason we haven't bought the Polly Pockets is becuase of all the tiny pieces that I don't feel like dealing with. But then, she loves Strawberry Shortcake and those have a ton of small stuff.

[kristac]

What about snap and style dolls?
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...snap+and+style

[lonegirl]

Originally Posted by Cascadian

Neither do most toys...or cartoons..or book illustrations. What is 'normal and healthy'? What does that look like? I'm skinny (ok, sans boobs ) and I bet if somone made a doll like me, there'd be a whole thread devoted to how it doesn't look like 'normal healthy women'.

Yeah, we can deconstruct things to death and get lost in the mire, or help instill consumer literacy within our kids. With DDs of a certain age, I really choose my battles and where I spend my righteous indignation.

LOL me too....for the opposite reason as I am an overweight woman.....

[Just1More]

Originally Posted by kristac

What about snap and style dolls?
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss...snap+and+style

Thanks! I do like those. Too bad they are $20 EACH. Sigh...


And, to throw this out there. Maybe I don't care if the little figure is correctly proportioned or not. Maybe I just don't want my little girl playing with grown-up women, OR men, for that matter. She can play babies. And she can play with grown-up dolls as daddy's or mama's, or whatever, but I really don't think I need or want to encourage taking the clothes on and off a grown-up. A grown-up who looks like a grown-up, for that matter. She's FOUR. There's time for that kind of stuff, and there's a place. And the innocence of childhood isn't it. And that's one of the myriad of reasons we don't have Barbies, either.

[karne]

Does any one remember the earlier version of the Pollies? They had tiny little cases that were their tiny homes, or different settings like pools, schools, etc. The Pollies were super, super, tiny-the current versions are amazons in comparison. We inherited a couple of these and my dd loved them. There is something about the tiny figures of both those and the newer versions that seemed to 'speak" to most of the girls who we knew. They could also go in the bathtub, the pool, puddles, and I never got crazy about that like I did with my kids $20 (or more) waldorf type play figures.