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What to do when DC has no love for learning?

post #1 of 10
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DD#1 has no love for learning and it is breaking my heart. She does exactly what she has to to “get by” in every aspect of her life (school work, chores, etc.) She does not enjoy any part of homeschooling, even when I allow her to pick the topic we are studying. It’s not like we are battling over HS, she just shows no excitement for it. She is passionate about not wanting to go to PS. She just wants to know when she can be done. When it comes to chores she is just constantly asking if what she has done is “good enough.” Frankly I am scared for her academic future as well as her work ethic.

This came to the surface lately because the girls are taking a Spanish class. DD#2 is loving it and putting a lot of effort into interjecting the Spanish words she knows into her daily conversations. For example over the weekend the two girls were playing a Dora computer game and DD#2 said “Mom, I just swung on a rojo rope.” I commented that it was great to hear her use her Spanish words at which point DD#1 said “And I just swung on an azul rope.” Before I could say anything DD#2 said, “That wasn’t blue, it was green.” DD#1 said, “I know, but I don’t know the word for green, just pretend that it was green.” I told DD#1 that green was “verde” and she then said, “Oh, well I swung on a verde rope.”

DD#1 was a late reader. Even though she is doing second grade work for every other subject, she is just starting second grade level reading. Even now that she is reading pretty fluently I never catch her reading. (We have been reading to her, and our other children, from the time we knew could hear in the uterus.) I respect that most of us have a hard time enjoying things that are difficult for us but the lack of interest is concerning to me. She has done all sorts of lessons and activities (soccer, gymnastics, dance, swimming, violin, Brownies, art) and while she was quite good at some of them she really didn’t care if she went or not. I don’t have any reason to think she is depressed; she LOVES social interaction such as playing with the neighbor girls or other HS kids. She is very extroverted and can go anywhere and have a new “friend” in a matter of minutes.

I really don’t want to make this about the differences between DH and me but I am a life long student who cannot get enough information. I am truly passionate about learning. I feel strongly that my life will not be long enough for all the things I would like to try or learn about. DH on the other hand does not necessarily enjoy learning new things, doesn’t know where he would like to see his career going, seldom reads unless it is a cookbook or newspaper. Should I resign myself to the fact that DD#1 is just more like her dad or is there some way that I haven’t thought of to “light the fire?”
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How old are your daughters? Have they always homeschooled? Does DD#1 have any interests? Like does she have a favorite subject to read about or does she like to collect horses or any type of hobby?
post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
DD#1 is 7.5
DD#2 is 5

DD#1 went to a public PK and has been homeschooled since. DD#2 is currently at the public PK and will be HSed next year.

DD#1 greatest interest is Super Mario on the Wii. She also likes the typical 7 y/o girl things, princesses, fairies, Littlest Pet Shop, Polly Pockets, etc. I have brought home books on all of these things and she will read them but is just flippant about them. I often pull out a stack of books at her reading level and have her pick what she wants to read but rather then look at the subject matter she looks at the number of pages, amount of words, etc. We have a HUGE children's library at our house (the book lover in me) but she doesn't actively search out books/information.
post #4 of 10

way too soon to worry

It sounds like she is a content happy girl, and there is NOTHING wrong with that. As for reading, she isn't good at it yet, just give it time. Also, remember that there are different ways of learning. For instance your husband only read if it is the newspaper or cookbook. What makes that more or less learning? He likes learning about the news of the day, not ancient history. Still learning, just different. Also, it sounds like your girl is gifted when it comes to social interactions. Her skills are no less valuable. Give her time. My son wasn't reading well either at that age, and also would not read for pleasure. NOw, at age 10 he is reading way above grade level and reads for pleasure all the time. But we put up with a lot of years of only reading graphic novels

Try getting her one of the paperback guides to the game she likes, the ones that have all the cheat codes. I bet that gets her reading. Don't worry about the rest yet.




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Originally Posted by gwen's mom View Post
DD#1 is 7.5
DD#2 is 5

DD#1 went to a public PK and has been homeschooled since. DD#2 is currently at the public PK and will be HSed next year.

DD#1 greatest interest is Super Mario on the Wii. She also likes the typical 7 y/o girl things, princesses, fairies, Littlest Pet Shop, Polly Pockets, etc. I have brought home books on all of these things and she will read them but is just flippant about them. I often pull out a stack of books at her reading level and have her pick what she wants to read but rather then look at the subject matter she looks at the number of pages, amount of words, etc. We have a HUGE children's library at our house (the book lover in me) but she doesn't actively search out books/information.
post #5 of 10
Yes, she's still young, and perhaps traditional academic work isn't her cup of tea right now. It sounds like she has great interpersonal skills, which is truly a valuable gift. Could you perhaps find a way to work this skill into her academic work? Like, maybe she's prefer to practice reading by reading to a preschool-age child, or by putting on a play with some of her friends (the American Girls company makes a neat little theatre kit with scripts and stuff for some of the dolls, if she's into those at all).
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I wanted to respond to your post for two reasons. First, my oldest son sounds sooooooooooooo much like your daughter! He is a curious kid, but not so much intrinsically motivated to learn. He is always looking for the easy way out, and only wants to do the bare minimum. He does like to read, but mostly reads fantasy stories and fiction of one type or another, rather than reading the "educational" things I'd like him to read.

Second, I wanted to say that I was a lot like your daughter when I was a child, and am sooooooooooooooooo different now. I can't say what exactly changed for me, but when I was about 23 I just started loving to learn things and wanted to do really well at my studies. This was after having two kids already, and having dropped out of college at 19. I went back to school when I was 23 and graduated 4 years later with honors in philosophy and Classical Greek. I am starting a masters degree in theology this fall, and consider myself a perennial learner! I couldn't be a more different person than I was as a child, and my son is so much like I was (except that I hated to read anything until I was in my 20's).

I only say this as reassurance. I never would have guessed, nor would my parents, who were very frustrated with me growing up, that I'd do so well in school as an adult. Give your daughter some time, I think it's too early to tell what her future interests will be. I think I would have come around sooner, but my parents kind of threw in the towel on trying to find something that I was interested in. I wish they had been more persistent--not forceful, but more supportive or encouraging of my interests. If your daughter is a real social butterfly, perhaps she would like studying things from a social perspective--either social histories, or even sociology or psychology once she's a bit older. Good luck to you! I am just trying to nurture my son the best I can right now, but it's really frustrating when I see him doing what I would consider a "waste of time."
post #7 of 10
I bet reading is still very hard for her, that's why you aren't finding her doing it on her own. I noticed a big jump in my DD's reading level recently, and now suddenly she wants to read a lot more. I think many kids don't like things that are hard. With my DD we ended up switching reading programs and going back to a level I knew she had completely mastered. It really gave her a big boost of confidence to whiz through it. She felt smart and suddenly wanted to show off! I have been told perfectionism is an oldest trait. I know that is part of my DD's problem. Also, my son (2 yrs younger) sometimes understands things and does things before she does. I know this has to be a blow to her self esteem. I try never to compare them, and I am really trying to help my DD realize how smart she is!
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Originally Posted by ktgrok View Post
It sounds like she is a content happy girl, and there is NOTHING wrong with that. As for reading, she isn't good at it yet, just give it time. Also, remember that there are different ways of learning. For instance your husband only read if it is the newspaper or cookbook. What makes that more or less learning? He likes learning about the news of the day, not ancient history. Still learning, just different. Also, it sounds like your girl is gifted when it comes to social interactions. Her skills are no less valuable. Give her time. My son wasn't reading well either at that age, and also would not read for pleasure. NOw, at age 10 he is reading way above grade level and reads for pleasure all the time. But we put up with a lot of years of only reading graphic novels

Try getting her one of the paperback guides to the game she likes, the ones that have all the cheat codes. I bet that gets her reading. Don't worry about the rest yet.
I was thinking the same things, but that was a lot more succinctly worded than I could have come up with.

It can be hard to keep in mind that "learning" isn't necessarily the stuff the schools address - there's a whole world out there that children can find their own unique niches in when the time is right.

My son was never so satisfied as when he was living full time in a funky room above a soup kitchen where he volunteered full time and helped out with all the other things shelters do - laundering clothes for the homeless and needy, supervising the security of the shower areas where people come twice a week to shower and shave, going out into frigid Chicago winter mornings to pick up food donations, sometimes mopping floors till almost midnight in grungy, dark hallways - and most importantly of all, treating people with kindness and dignity, etc. People skills. Did he show an affinity for that kind of public service when he was seven? No. Was he even outgoing at age seven? No! Did he grow up with chores that gave him an appreciation for hard work? No. Did he like to tackle things that were a tough challenge? Only if they happened to be something that struck his fancy. He used to read this and that for information, but didn't start enjoying reading for pleasure till he was 12 (after I discovered he had vision skill deficiencies that we quickly cleared up with therapy). Life takes many twists and turns, and you just never know what a child's interests may or may not lead to. Time and living bring many surprises and new paths.

But did my son love learning? Yes. I think every human being loves learning - it's just that we don't always recognize learning when we see it. And learning about video games was one of the things we considered worthwhile learning at our house, with digging around for codes as an adventure we all got a kick out of. And it involved thinking and reading and strategies. When you're about to cook and serve a Thanksgiving dinner to 100+ people off the street and you discover that morning that the food a charity organization has promised to drop off for the meal you're going to prepare consists of stuff not much better than Spam, you need to get creative really fast. Being able to think on your feet and jump in to solve problems is every bit as valuable as giving a hoot about reading novels at age seven or ten or whatever. I'm not saying video games teach you to do that - but there's a lot of thinking and planning involved in them, and there's so much more to life than can be studied or needs to be studied. Just following your interests, whether they're about princesses and fairies or whatever, will lead to acquiring various skills and connections to other things. Mom providing books about your imaginative interests might not contribute much, though, because it wasn't necessarily reading books about those things that drew you to them, and the books might not have anything to offer your imagination.

It's been a long, busy day, and I find myself rambling, but to cut to the chase, I don't think you have anything at all to worry about with your daughter. Lilllian
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Another thought. When my son was growing up, there wasn't anything he felt drawn to in terms of something he might like to do when he grew up. He never felt anything looked like enough "fun." It had to be "fun" or he wouldn't even consider it. I sometimes worried about it - how many careers are "fun"? Well, who da' thunk his idea of fun - i.e. satisfaction - would end up being helping people who haven't been so fortunate in life? You just never know what those early buds of responses to life will bloom into! - Lillian
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But did my son love learning? Yes. I think every human being loves learning - it's just that we don't always recognize learning when we see it.
I could not agree more, and let me assure you that I am not an unschooler in any way, shape or form. It's not that I'm "anti-unschooling". It's just that my DH is so incredibly opposed to it and I'm not super hip on just letting DD fly by the seat of her pants and hope it all works out. However, I have found over the last year that she is always learning something, even when it's not what I would've thought to teach her or how I would've thought to teach it to her, and even when it's not an activity that seemed educational to me.

For instance (and this is going to sound really stupid, but it's true) my DD, who is 5, learned all her numbers from 20 to 100 by playing Webkinz. For some reason she just wasn't at all motivated to learn them from me. She didn't care, it was boring to her and it got on her nerves when I tried to teach her, so I stopped, because I noticed she was constantly asking me things like, "Mom, how much is 2, 4?" while she was playing Webkinz. After a while I realized she probably knew just from asking me so much, so I started simply replying, "You tell me," and sure enough, she knew. Now she's even getting the numbers in the hundreds, although she still gets confused sometimes. I wouldn't have taught her numbers that way, but it worked and it was painless, so who cares?

She learned about circulation, the immune system and all kinds of other things from watching The Magic School Bus. Again, not what I would've preferred, but it was her way and it worked, so what was wrong with it? Obviously, I'm not an old hand at homeschooling, given that my DD is 5 and a K'er, but I would describe her as being very similar to your DD. She doesn't want to go to school, but she doesn't seem very motivated to homeschool either. She's learning, though, so I'm okay with her attitudes...most of the time. Sometimes the control freak in me gets a little wigged out. lol
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