# of vaccine before and after National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act???????

[zachattack]

I understand the sharp increase in vaccines have caused the sharp increase in autism etc. It seems that before the 1986 law vaccine companies had to be careful of the vaccines they put out. The NCVIC was a goldmine for the phara companies.
does this law explain why the # of vaccines rose so sharply?

I have seen the vax schedule in 83 but i'd like to see the schedule right before the 86 law and right after... does anyone have the schedule from 85 anf then 88 or 89????

[~Kristina~]

Originally Posted by zachattack

I understand the sharp increase in vaccines have caused the sharp increase in autism etc. It seems that before the 1986 law vaccine companies had to be careful of the vaccines they put out. The NCVIC was a goldmine for the phara companies.
does this law explain why the # of vaccines rose so sharply?

I have seen the vax schedule in 83 but i'd like to see the schedule right before the 86 law and right after... does anyone have the schedule from 85 anf then 88 or 89????

I have mine for 1979...

[newmum35]

Originally Posted by zachattack

I understand the sharp increase in vaccines have caused the sharp increase in autism etc. It seems that before the 1986 law vaccine companies had to be careful of the vaccines they put out. The NCVIC was a goldmine for the phara companies.
does this law explain why the # of vaccines rose so sharply?

I have seen the vax schedule in 83 but i'd like to see the schedule right before the 86 law and right after... does anyone have the schedule from 85 anf then 88 or 89????

I think it is. but just my opinion.

[Marnica]

This makes total sense. They had NO liability after this act.....I do not have a schedule for before vs after, but I don't think its a stretch to think about why it exploded the way it has.

[mamadelbosque]

Honestly, that law is one of my biggest excuses for not vaxing. If any doctor or nurs or *anybody* can explain to me why on earth the pharma companies *NEED* immunity on vaccines, if they're as safe as they insist they are, I'll consider giving some vaxes. But nobody can explain it to me, so we delay, delay, delay

Because really. If you have absolute complete immunity, why bother with lots safety testing before releasing something to the public? If you can't be sued, why waste your money? You can always pull it after a few years if there end up being lotsa side effects, so whats the point in doing the studies on safety for years before hand when you have a ready population of millions who will be more than happy to test it for you - and pay you while their at it!! And no worries, if its a bad vax, they can't sue you for being negligent!!

[newmum35]

This might help. Note that only one schedule is provided pre 1986, while look at how many times it has changed since. It is now a regular yearly occurance.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/sch...edule.htm#past


Here is another interesting look (comparison)

http://www.generationrescue.org/pdf/cdc_comparison.pdf

[Jadzia]

Some interesting background on this law here:

http://www.ageofautism.com/2010/03/b...-epidemic.html

I found a 1986 article from a Texas newspaper, the Mainland Extra, to be particularly revealing. In reminding its readers why vaccines were important, the Mainland explained that children in Texas needed to have three shots: DPT, MMR, and Polio, between the ages of 5 and 12. Shots before Age 5? Not even part of the agenda – just make sure your kids have them before kindergarten.

[miriam]

The answer to the OP's question is yes.

Many of the first polio vaccines caused polio and the companies were liable. Read The Cutter Incident by Paul Offit himself. The case was argued by attorney Melvin Belli; the case gave him the reputation he lived on for decades. The cases set the framework for product liability law.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...864181,00.html

If anyone ever tosses the conquering of polio in the mix in an argument in favor of vaccines, just remember that many of those polio cases in the 1950s were caused by the early vaccines. To this day, the live OPV is known to cause polio.

In A Stolen Life, by Marge Grant, she describes her baby son's decline after receiving a 4-in-1 shot DPT+polio that ruined her son's health in 1961. That vaccine was soon taken off the market. She met many people whose children suffered side effects from that vaccine.

[Fyrestorm]

Originally Posted by miriam

If anyone ever tosses the conquering of polio in the mix in an argument in favor of vaccines, just remember that many of those polio cases in the 1950s were caused by the early vaccines. To this day, the live OPV is known to cause polio.

The definition of polio was also changed after the vaccine came out. The number of polio cases went way down and the number of meningitis cases went way up.

July 1955
(Before the new polio definition was introduced.)
273 - Cases of polio
50 - Cases of Aseptic meningitis

July 1961
(After the new polio definition was in-troduced.)
65- Cases of polio
161- Cases of Aseptic meningitis

September 1966
(After the new polio definition was in-troduced)
5- Cases of polio
256- Cases of Aseptic meningitis

http://www.thinktwice.com/Polio.pdf

[miriam]

VEry true, Fyrestorm. Thank you.

[zachattack]

Thanks fo the links

very helpful