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Where's the line between "terrible twos" and behavioral issues?

post #1 of 9
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My 27mo keeps having, on and off, days of a Very Weird Mood Indeed. Doesn't seem tied to anything he eats -- could be happening because of tiredness -- but it's strange. He's got a speech delay, suspected oral motor issues (though is incredibly communicative nonverbally) so maybe he's getting frustrated that he can't talk? I dunno.

Yesterday, he was tired. His speech therapist comes. All is going well until they've been reading a lift-the-flap book for a few minutes and she sets it aside. The book is open faced and the flaps are, well, flapping. He gets it into his head that it'd be fun to stomp them down. So he does. I remove the book. He has an utter meltdown, involving trying to slap me, trying to slap the therapist -- he even acted like he wanted to hug me so he could get close enough to slap me while I was holding him out at arm's length until he chilled out.

Today I was on the phone. He wanted my attention. So he deliberately gets me to sit down on the floor with him so he can reach behind me and pull my hair. Several times. Times like this, when I get up and leave or remove him from trying to hurt me, he breaks down sobbing like I've broken his little heart. And it's all very calculated. He gets this look on his face where I know he's going to come up to me and try and hit me. And then when I prevent it he gets *really* pissed off.

This only happens rarely, and seems to be like a day or two at a time amid weeks of better moods. He's generally cranky the past couple of days, too, due to sleep disruptions (omega-3s make him wake up mid-nap to poop, apparently, and then he can't get back to sleep). Very clingy, anxious. Weird. Usually he's not like this.

Tiredness? "Behavioral issues?" Is he deliberately trying to hurt me or just get my attention or what?

EDIT: When he does do this, it's in response to things like "No, we don't throw our toys" and taking the toys away, or "I understand you're angry, but we don't hit people when we're angry" and removing myself. He's usually very sweet, non-violent, etc. These moods seem directly translatable to "Oh, you say I shouldn't do xyz? Let's do it some more and dial the shenanigans up to 11!" Sounds typical-twoish to me but I don't have much experience with kids that age.
post #2 of 9
DD seemed to have weird mood swings, though a little different from your DS
She never wants to hurt but very unhappy about something that I never know what.
Anyway, we cut back on her TV time completely and it worked. This is the 5th day with no TV at all and she is so much better. She has regular 2yo tantrums but they are nothing compared to those strange behaviors.
Good luck!
post #3 of 9
Thread Starter 
Hmm. Mine never watches regular TV. I'm wondering though whether he's got a food intolerance. We eat all organic and mostly unprocessed (as his pickiness allows) but he has other markers of gluten intolerance/celiac, so we're going to try GF for a couple of weeks probably (eeeek).

Although he's just taken the first decent-length nap in a few days and it seems to have reset him. Guess he was just tired?
post #4 of 9
Sounds normal to me. My DS can be like this - DD, not at all, but DS yes.

My DS does have dairy intolerance.

Tjej
post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thanks! I was mostly figuring it was just normal 2-year-old stuff, but I don't have a lot of experience with kids that age and I've been spending way too much time with Dr. Google lately ..
post #6 of 9
This sounds like my child. She is not quite 2 yet, but I have definitely noticed an increasing clinginess and tendency to throw huge crying fits over nothing in the last several months. I don't quite know what to make of it. I kind of assumed it is just her personality, but I have never had another toddler to compare her to. She goes to daycare, and they have commented that she is very dramatic when things don't go her way, but don't seem concerned that it is abnormal or anything.
post #7 of 9
that sounds like tiredness, overstimulation or both.

We found that behavioral issues seemed to stem from TV watching, cartoons specifically. We actually got rid of TV in our house and he only occasionally watches movies on the computer, like once or week or less. That may not be what your problem is, but I think the cartoons really hyper-stimulate their brains and can cause issues elsewhere.
post #8 of 9
my ds is just 19 months, but sometimes we have episodes like what you're describing. He's really bad about kicking and slapping me right now when something makes him mad. He is also very jealous of my attention. We are TV free, so I know it's not that for us. He does have a dairy intolerance, but we avoid it pretty completely. I think it's somewhat normal for this age, but for ds it is really compounded by tiredness, because he often will.NOT.nap.
post #9 of 9
My kiddo is 20 months and she has tantrums all the time, too. I'll have to try limiting TV time, though I don't think we watch a lot of it...
On days when she won't nap, I put her in the crib anyway to hang out and get her act together, and so that I can have a break. Since I'm a SAHM, taking a break from each other for a little while helps me better cope with all the mood swings!
Also, if she throws a tantrum and is unconsolable, I let her throw the tantrum (making sure she is in a safe place) and wait for it to pass before trying to pick her up or talking to her about her behavior, because when they are in full-on tantrum mode, they don't really have any control over themselves.
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